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posted December 04, 2021 03:50 AM |
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artu said:
fred79 said:
you know, my grandma says the same thing. apparently, facts don't exist to some people. it sure boggles my mind. you would think, that truths were a thing, since falsities are a thing.
You are not qualified to define what a fact is.
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I think you managed to get every single hypernationalist scare tactic into a single post. Well done. I'm impressed. What does that have to do with vaccines or Amish herd immunity?
That was too non-sensical to be even scare tactics, it was as if a stand-up comedian made a parody of scare tactics. A pile of boogey words which he has no clue of their actual meaning, sprinkled without any context or coherency.
It's a common tactic of the blue pill or good German to not discuss individual examples of corruption, rather lump them altogether to ridicule them as so out of this world idiotic conspiracy theory.
The good German can't address most topics, most events. To him, stopping his conscience from stirring is of the utmost importance, not the seeking of truth.
So the fact that corporate media refused to talk about the 5+ killed and dozens injured in a black supremacists BLM terror attack after the self defense verdict of Kyle in Kenosha, must not be discussed. It is simply lumped into the far-right, neo-nazi, bigoted racist conspiracy category and not discussed.
And though they feign enlightenment and may discuss the easier examples sometimes, they aren't willing to sit through a discussion of more than two or three; having realized their positions are absurd and becoming angry about it.
"Here's why inflation is a good thing" - Corporate media, the lapdogs of the oligarchy. Just another example that they'll spin up with some grand conspiracy theory, rather than just ask, why is the corporate media telling me that something in every case considered a bad thing, a good thing? Who paid for that opinion to be mass produced and published?
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posted December 04, 2021 04:48 AM |
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What do the Amish use as toilet paper anyways?
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posted December 04, 2021 09:47 AM |
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Titanfall2020 said:
The good German can't address most topics, most events. To him, stopping his conscience from stirring is of the utmost importance, not the seeking of truth.
So not only do you have the one and only "woke atheist" in your family, you also know the one and only "good German".
Maybe you know this guy as well?
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posted December 04, 2021 11:05 AM |
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Titanfall, you are basically claiming that the super-rich are a cult trying to set up a Marxist system, vaccination and gender studies are part of this secret totalitarian agenda, and support it with ancient prophicies. Nobody has to be "woke" to see how ridiculous that is, they just have to be sane.
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Titanfall2020
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posted December 04, 2021 01:55 PM |
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artu said:
Titanfall, you are basically claiming that the super-rich are a cult trying to set up a Marxist system, vaccination and gender studies are part of this secret totalitarian agenda, and support it with ancient prophicies. Nobody has to be "woke" to see how ridiculous that is, they just have to be sane.
The exact aforementioned tactic. Just wrap it up altogether so you don't have to examine the dots that are easily connected. I don't have behind the scenes knowledge of some cabal, but I am able to follow money trails, I'm able to read what powerful people have written, assess the result of their efforts, and I have a good track record of predicting how current events will unfold.
Let's take, just a single element of the totalitarian agenda that you keep bringing up. Something you're unable to do.
"Marxist system", black lives matter co-founders are both "trained Marxists". Here the blue pill can either pretend that Marxism is something isn't, or examine the history of Marxist revolutions and the express writings of Marxist American intellectuals. Part of what they wrote about was literally driving down the well being of the average American so that they would accept communism. Public information, no conspiracy theories here. And all along their website before it was scrubbed was professing Marxist ideas such as breaking up the nuclear family, getting children away from families so they could be raise by "communities". So these Black Lives Matter groups literally want to overthrow America, that's what Marxist revolutionaries do. They've killed people, burned down small businesses, terrorized cities, and then lied about it.
So I'm skeptical of any organizations and politicians and people that support BLM, after the absolute havoc they created in the past two years (mostly active during election years). It could be a coincidence that every major corporation that supports BLM supports mass vaccination, the trans agenda, and makes no qualms about the genocidal Chinese Communist Party which currently has 2,000,000 people or so in death camps being used as cattle for organ harvesting. Or you could follow the money, and see that the same people that funded BLM, fund the vaccine agenda, the trans agenda, the no border agenda, and work closely with the genocidal Communist Chinese Party.
You describe it as some big conspiracy, I'm just describing the Democrat and international liberal platform. They support Marxism, forced "vaccinations", the trans agenda, and totalitarian surveillance and control of (bank accounts/bio-metrics/online activity, you name it, just look at some of the bills they've tried to pass). But because the agenda is so appalling, you can't examine any individual items of it. Much easier to avoid disturbing your conscience. The liberal platform is just a far right, neo-nazi racist bigoted conspiracy theory.
And don't waste anyones time with the "that's not the platform". In most cases it is their express platform.
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posted December 04, 2021 02:52 PM |
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Edited by artu at 15:50, 04 Dec 2021.
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Except, I am not the one doing the wrapping up, you are! I am, on the contrary, telling you that you cant deduct the "big picture" in your fantasy from all of these semi-truths and misconceptions.
BLM is a liberal movement about minority rights, individual rights, it is not communist, it doesnt call for a totalitanian communist state, it is about identity politics, which actual Marxists would categorize as a distraction from class-struggle. I already told you this but you can not comprehend it because you probably never actually read a Marxist thinker in your life or spoke to an actual Marxist. The word is just a boogey word to you, presented by the illiterate alt-right, taken directly from cold war propaganda. Breaking up families and giving children to communes, lol, do you believe that hippy communes are communist or something? Didnt the Leninst Soviet states had nuclear families? Where do you get this non-sense, Klan blogs or somewhere similar?
The riots and BLM movement are also not the same thing, that is, one can be critical of the violence of the riots (which Gnomes already displayed with evidence, is much overblown), yet can support the cause of BLM. But even in such a situation, it is not a Marxist cause.
The Marxism thought in the universities isnt about bringing communism or a totalitarian state either, it's part of social sciences, it is historical materialism, a branch of sociology that focuses on the effects of means of production and infrastructure on culture and values.
The Democrat Party in the US is not a Marxist party no matter how you stretch the meaning of the word. To claim this is illiteracy level ignorance.
Mandatory vaccination (and it is not mandatory in the sense you put it, you have the legal right not to take it) would not mean a totalitarian state either, health emergency precautions dont make a state totalitarian, it doesnt even make it authoritarian. The words you treat so lightly in your senseless, moronic propaganda have some weight in the real world and they dont mean the things you mean.
Oh and btw, the ones that came up with the blue pill/red pill metaphor you looove so much, the Watchowskis, they are transgender.
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posted December 05, 2021 03:43 AM |
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Eh. I'd rather say that America itself founded black live matters. You know why.
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posted December 05, 2021 03:17 PM |
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Kayna said:
Eh. I'd rather say that America itself founded black live matters. You know why.
you guys really get emboldened when your favorite moderator comes in to play, don't you? just hate bait after hate bait.
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posted December 05, 2021 04:19 PM |
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So far, the moderator only punished personal attacks, not opinions. Just try to argue something without personal attacks, and yes, talking crap about America isn't a personal attack, because it is not an individual, but a country. You can talk negatively about Canada if you want, I won't take it personally.
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posted December 06, 2021 02:10 AM |
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"just don't post personal attacks", he says...
jfc.
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posted December 15, 2021 02:42 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
1.They did surrender their rights and freedom a long time ago, considering the lockdown they are living in regularly and due to their "religious beliefs".
2. and "the evil medical global tyranny"
1. Do you "surrender your freedom" by locking yourself in your home at night? Then in the morning you set yourself Free "Free at last!" Good grief man.
2. Be sure to remain status quo JJ.
And you call yourself a liberal LOL
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posted December 15, 2021 03:13 PM |
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I don't call myself a liberal.
And you don't want to compare living (and education/schooling) in a vaguely protestant religious sect with locking yourself in for the night - that's a pretty long shot, at best.
I think you know my stance on religion in general and religion-based "quirks" quite well.
And just so you know (for the other thread) - PFIZER is just the parent US company of BIONTECH, a GERMAN company, who is responsible for the development of the vaccine. (Pfizer is just profiting.)
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posted December 15, 2021 03:31 PM |
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fred79 said:
markkur said:
Dore
i still don't think they're going to get it, man. but, saved.
JollyJoker said:
And just so you know (for the other thread) - PFIZER is just the parent US company of BIONTECH, a GERMAN company, who is responsible for the development of the vaccine. (Pfizer is just profiting.)
see?
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posted December 15, 2021 03:40 PM |
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My doctor did the first shoot and told he will contact me for the second. Waiting for 2 months already, so I called him back, he says he hasn't any vaccine and won't have anymore.
This morning I got expelled from gym for not having the second shoot, so I started to call vax centers in urgency, next possible appointment is in February...
Basically I can't go anywhere from now, that was an awful logistic coordination.
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posted December 15, 2021 04:29 PM |
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fred79 said:
see?
What am I supposed to see?
Salamandre said:
that was an awful logistic coordination.
Yeah, that "booster shot" has screwed things up, royally. Generally, though, if you can't get a vaccine (because there is none), you aren't allowed to have any disadvantage (you basically can't be held responsible), so this shouldn't last long, before the courts will right things.
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posted December 15, 2021 05:15 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
fred79 said:
see?
What am I supposed to see?
you're not ever going to get it and you don't really care to, so it doesn't matter. my post was for markkur.
JollyJoker said:
so this shouldn't last long, before the courts will right things.
yes, "the courts" will right things. surely. and forget about the costs for the average person going to court against all these entities restricting them from being a part of their "new society". just pull those ever-shrinking funds out of your bank account from dealing with the aforementioned "new society". no worries, right? and hey, take the time off work to do so! but wait, you didn't get your 2nd/3rd/4th/9,999,999th shot, so you can't even ENTER court! oh well, too bad! be a better citizen next time! we provide the hoops, you jump through them, understand? and don't complain about anything you're not allowed to complain about, or you'll be villified and lose your job! then you'll REALLY be up snow's creek!
you have no logic that i can see, whatsoever. you and the others are so completely out of touch, it's obscene.
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posted December 15, 2021 05:24 PM |
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fred79 said:
yes, "the courts" will right things. surely. and forget about the costs for the average person going to court against all these entities restricting them from being a part of their "new society". just pull those ever-shrinking funds out of your bank account from dealing with the aforementioned "new society". no worries, right? and hey, take the time off work to do so! but wait, you didn't get your 2nd/3rd/4th/9,999,999th shot, so you can't even ENTER court! oh well, too bad! be a better citizen next time! we provide the hoops, you jump through them, understand? and don't complain about anything you're not allowed to complain about, or you'll be villified and lose your job! then you'll REALLY be up snow's creek!
you have no logic that i can see, whatsoever. you and the others are so completely out of touch, it's obscene.
What THIS shows is, that you have not the slightest clue how the system you rail against even works. This is nothing "the individual" has to take care of - not in the EU, at least.
But sure, preach on.
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posted December 15, 2021 05:34 PM |
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is that supposed to be an attempt to enlighten me, obi wan?
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posted December 15, 2021 05:59 PM |
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@Sal
That's just... Second shot is due to get done 3 weeks after first one... You could file a complaint... Did you try to find an appointment on Doctolib.fr ?
And no vax center appointment-free in Lyon ?
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posted December 15, 2021 06:07 PM |
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Centers are overloaded, now that the pass is required everywhere and even kids are asking for appointments. I still try to check one by one and attempt to get a free place earlier. As for suing the doctor, he said he was supposed to get vaccines but logistic didn't follow.
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