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Thread: Osama Bin Laden This thread is 15 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 · «PREV / NEXT»
Skydancer
Skydancer


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posted January 25, 2003 10:47 PM

Jews control the world and you know it..you said it yourself.I don't think that telling the truth has to do anything with facism or any of hitler's ideas.I am no fascist or supporter of hitler.I am seeing facts happening.US are dominant in the past decade and the last couple of years they are showing the rest of the world that they are doing as the like.Osama i think is just a scape goat.US took the terrorist attack in september 11 as an advantage making war with the "bad" afganians trying to find Bin Laden.Afganistan is a nation which has a very attractive production of drugs (i think 90% of world's opium come from them,and of course oil).

Well what would be the difference is US had found Bin Laden?Nothing...the terrorist danger would be the same still.Just a confortation for the people who is controled by the american media,nothing more and america's pride who had been seriously injured would be healed.Osama isn't the only terrorist in the world after all and not the only one who hates america.US actions have created this hostility against them and because there can be no direct attack them because it will be in vain things like that are happening and will continue happening.
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Vadskye91
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posted January 25, 2003 11:40 PM

Personally, I think that the US is doing a terrible job of trying to fight Iraq and catch terrorists.  For one thing, almost the whole world is against fighting Iraq with the wimpy amount of evidence we have against it.  Also, Bush's "pre-emptive strike" idea undermines the image of the US as a peaceful nation.  One final point: the US has the largest amount of nukes in the world, and we're telling other nations to disarm?  Get real!!!
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dArGOn
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posted January 26, 2003 06:11 AM

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” Now..do you really think that osama is the cause why the world is not peaceful???U.S. are the ones reasponsible for most of bad things happening today..and i don't want to offend anyone here..U.S are a jews puppet they control the world from behind the curtains and hence they are reasponsible for a lot of bad things happening today  .If you ask why Jews..The answer is money  .”

It is really hard to respond to a racist..because they lack the ability to reason.  So before I try to even enlighten the blind man I must first understand what facts he uses to state that US is responsible for most bad things, USA is controlled by jews, and Jews are money grubbers.

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“almost the whole world is against fighting Iraq”

Hmmm were you even around when the UN voted UNANIMOUSLY to support the USA’s push for inspections and following interventions pending a material breach.  I have a hard time how unanimous translates into everyone against?  Besides even if the whole world was actually against it…that doesn’t deem the action moral or immoral.

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“Well what would be the difference is US had found Bin Laden?Nothing...the terrorist danger would be the same still”

Using that amazing logic we should never go after murderers for there will always be murderers…we shouldn’t go after child molesters…there will always be child molesters….I guess we should just sit on our hands and look the other way at everything that is wrong... since we can’t ever totally stop it.

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Qu_Purple
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Hired Hero
posted January 26, 2003 11:21 AM

It seems that the Sept 11 tragedy has been proven beyond any doubt to be the work of OBL.  The problem is that they can't seem to find him and with the amount of money he has behind him I don't think they will ever catch him.

The thing that perplexes me is that many people seem to be lumping the situation in Iraq with OBL and as far as I can see there is no concrete link between them.  Maybe it is the fact that they are of the same religion or the same ethnicity that they are linked to each other.  It could also be that they have both proven themselves to be capable of the worst human atrocities and they both have a hatred of the USA.

This week Australian servicemen were deployed to support the USA in whatever situation might arise with Iraq.  70% of Australians were against any war with Iraq without full United Nations support.  I personally don't think that anyone in their right mind could want to start another war.  Unless their is compelling evidence that Iraq is going to use weapons of mass destruction/chemical warfare against the rest of the world, then we should not go to war.

Really I have been hoping that someone would just eliminate Saddam Hussein but alas it has not happened.  He keeps his people uneducated and starving and feeds them lots of propaganda against western countries so that they will support him and blame everyone but him for their problems.  Although I dont see him starving or the other men in his government.  It's very sad that the sanctions have not really effected anyone but the innocent and made his countrymens support for his government even stronger.

I also beleive that there are many financial and political reasons for this warmongering and I just hope that if we go to war that it is for all the right reasons.  I hope also that the powers that be reflect on the mistakes that have been made in recent wars such as Vietnam, The Faulklands and more recently in Bosnia.

If I could wish for something it would be for peace throughout the world.  But since the chances of this wish coming true are not very likely. then we shall have to rely on our leaders making wise decisions that are in the best interests of the whole of humanity.

BTW I don't think that blaming the Jewish community for the worlds troubles is going to help anyone either.

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bort
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Discarded foreskin of morality
posted January 26, 2003 04:13 PM

Just to state what the actual US poll numbers are (before we start speculating about what Americans actually are for)

(Source : Pew Research Centre, Jan8th-12th numbers)

Favor war without help of allies : 26%
Favor war with only with support of allies : 37%
Opposed to war period : 25%

Favor war if hidden weapons are found : 76%
Favor war if hidden weapon making ability found : 46%
Favor war if no weapons found but Iraq can't prove it : 29%
Favor war if no weapons found but can't assure Iraq has none : 28%

(Source : Washington Post)

Should weapons inspectors have as much time as they want? : 43%
Should weapons inspectors have "a few more months?" : 24%
(total "give weapons inspectors more time" : 67%)

So just so people know, the US people are not nearly as hawkish as the president is.

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privatehudson
privatehudson


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posted January 28, 2003 02:02 AM

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Jews control the world and you know it..you said it yourself.


Actually I said they controlled America's media and they have a strong lobby in that country. Last I checked there's still more Islamic people in the world to fight/vote against them, still enough countries around the world to disregard america on rare occaisions and try to enforce some sort of order on Israel's actions etc.

To say Jews rule the world is simplistic and insane. You're failing to find out the truth because you refuse to look further than your simple solution of blaming 1 group for everything.
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dArGOn
dArGOn


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posted January 28, 2003 03:57 AM

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"So just so people know, the US people are not nearly as hawkish as the president is. "

Polls change...particularly with this issue.  The polls have been up and down over the last year.  Whenever the president makes a big speech about the issue...polls go up in favor...then when he is not grandstanding and the democrats are speaking more..then polls go down.  Right before or as soon as the invasion begins..the polls will spike in favor is my prediction.  

Also the statement "hawkish" is kind of misleading.  If he has solid evidence...then his "hawkish" attitude makes sense.  If he has no evidence his "hawkish" attitude..well is just plain ole hawkish  

Not revealing all the information he may or may not have is the big question…. in which the answer could range from “he doesn’t have any evidence” to “there are security and strategy reasons for not revealing the evidence”.

PS why are we talking about this in the OBL thread instead of Iraq

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Snogard
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posted January 28, 2003 05:53 AM

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U.S are a jews puppet they control the world from behind the curtains and hence they are reasponsible for a lot of bad things happening today


How can this be tolerated!!!?  What shall the world do now, skydancer?  Another Holocaust?
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bort
bort


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Supreme Hero
Discarded foreskin of morality
posted January 29, 2003 04:19 AM

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Actually I said they controlled America's media and they have a strong lobby in that country.


I'm not denying the second statement, but could you please explain what you mean by "they" control the media?

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dArGOn
dArGOn


Famous Hero
posted January 29, 2003 08:59 AM

This is what I mean Bort:

In the CBS poll taken immediately following the speech, support for military action in Iraq went up to 77 percent indicating the power of a President to persuade

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Honorable
Supreme Hero
Discarded foreskin of morality
posted January 29, 2003 02:40 PM

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This is what I mean Bort:

In the CBS poll taken immediately following the speech, support for military action in Iraq went up to 77 percent indicating the power of a President to persuade



Well, thanks, but the quote I was asking for clarification on was PH's

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Skydancer
Skydancer


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Stealer of Wisdom
posted January 30, 2003 10:42 PM

First of all I think i told before that i am not a racist.

Now anyone of you think whatever you like.I don't really care..just dig more i guess..

Because U.S. is a bully things like that will happen again and again and you can keep looking for bin ladens

Cheerz boys
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skydancer
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posted January 30, 2003 10:48 PM


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How can this be tolerated!!!?  What shall the world do now, skydancer?  Another Holocaust?



No no no no no just let people know.Just that.Just do it.

Like Nike
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IYY
IYY


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posted January 30, 2003 10:49 PM

I don't know how you expect us to just take your word for not being a racist when in your previous post you clearly said things that are the worst possible kind of racist talk.
You said that Jews control the world without any evidence whatsoever and expect us to believe you?
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bort
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Honorable
Supreme Hero
Discarded foreskin of morality
posted January 30, 2003 10:49 PM

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First of all I think i told before that i am not a racist.


Oh, well that settles it then.  

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skydancer
skydancer


Hired Hero
Stealer of Wisdom
posted January 30, 2003 10:56 PM

man..i don't care what you believe about me

read a book about jews about their meetings and all about masons i don't know anything..
I just love Dark Tranquillity want to talk about them?
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Wolfman
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posted January 30, 2003 11:10 PM

Hard to believe you without proof from links.
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skydancer
skydancer


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Stealer of Wisdom
posted January 30, 2003 11:18 PM

ok

Cheers
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Kuma
Kuma


Promising
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u can type so much text in her
posted January 31, 2003 01:16 PM

Well, in the world of grown-ups if u say something stupid, people will draw their conclusions. Hard, but true.
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Skydancer
Skydancer


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Stealer of Wisdom
posted January 31, 2003 10:10 PM

Drow your conclusions pal no prob i said what i wanted to say don't expect proof for nothing by me if you want to find something out go and search for it.
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