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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: ****HOMM4 map council discussion/ deliberations****
Thread: ****HOMM4 map council discussion/ deliberations**** This thread is 17 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 · «PREV / NEXT»
the_teacher
the_teacher


Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
posted January 06, 2004 09:14 AM

Eldorado and Journey Updates

the new versions of those maps have been posted :

Eldorado 1.4

UPDATE:  EXTERNAL LEVEL 4 DWELLING REPLACED BY 2 LEVEL 3 DWELLINGS (LINKED)

MIDDLE BOATS MOVED AWAY FROM SHORE TO AVOID RUSHING

        BANNED RING OF PERMANENCY/TRAVELER'S BOOTS

iNCREASED PEONS OF ALL MONSTERS IN MIDDLE AREA (LAVA), ALMOST DOUBLED

INCREASED MONSTERS ON RING GUARDIAN

CHANGED ELDORADO TOWN GUARDIAN SKILLS INTO LVL 21 CARDINAL (100% RESURRECT), MASS EXORCISM AND MASS BLESS

MODIFIED TROOPS IN ELDORADO TOWN TO CYCLOPS AND OGRE MAGI

        CHANGED SCRIPT ON GARRISON (YOU GET ADVANCED COMBAT WHEN ON HERO WHO STPES FIRST IN THE GARRISON )


the Longest Journey V1.1

UPDATE : ALLOWED MASTER'S SPELLBOOK(LEVEL 3 BOOK) AND BANNED GUILDMASTER COMPENDIUM(LEVEL 4 BOOK) BECAUSE OF MOD CHANGES

        ADDED A LEVEL 35 ASSASSIN (ORIGINAL BARBARIAN), NEXT TO STARTING TOWN, WHO GIVES YOU SHACKLES OF WAR WHEN DEFEATED

Note: Changes are made in wow editor.

Enjoy !






have a nice day !


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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted January 08, 2004 09:00 AM

TEACH..
YOU SHOULD CALL SOME CAPSLOCK EXPERT TO FIX THAT THING !
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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted January 09, 2004 12:19 AM

Walkabout 1.2 ...

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Tc_Fear
Tc_Fear


Famous Hero
posted January 12, 2004 10:55 AM

do I have to push u to make v 1.3 now ?

the longest

I suggest to remove 'a possibility to build grail'or 'something' from might
way to strong

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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted January 16, 2004 07:37 PM

Map Page Layout
I think, would be more practical and had better aesthetic, if all versions of same map where under the same minimap and description..

also, as it is, most 'multiple minimaped' maps.. are either oldfashioned or trash
..kinda bugs me that have to scroll down 2 desert strikes and 3 conquest of 4lake, evry time i want to download!

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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted January 17, 2004 01:32 PM
Edited By: insatiable on 17 Jan 2004

powerspot_1.5

Corrections:
_Volcano Demolishers hut, in middle, now work properly
_Black markets, in middle, now work properly, at Split version
_Purple starting hero, now has no lev1 creatures on him, as should
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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted January 21, 2004 06:18 PM

Quote:
Map Page Layout
I think, would be more practical and had better aesthetic, if all versions of same map where under the same minimap and description..

also, as it is, most 'multiple minimaped' maps.. are either oldfashioned or trash
..kinda bugs me that have to scroll down 2 desert strikes and 3 conquest of 4lake, evry time i want to download!

well i know its freking unimportant!! that dont mean it doesnt have to look better and be more practical!
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the_teacher
the_teacher


Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
posted January 21, 2004 09:00 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Map Page Layout
I think, would be more practical and had better aesthetic, if all versions of same map where under the same minimap and description..

also, as it is, most 'multiple minimaped' maps.. are either oldfashioned or trash
..kinda bugs me that have to scroll down 2 desert strikes and 3 conquest of 4lake, evry time i want to download!

well i know its freking unimportant!! that dont mean it doesnt have to look better and be more practical!


it seems that you are really trying to say something

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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted January 22, 2004 02:24 AM

he's got a point

Jinxer, do something

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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted January 29, 2004 09:39 AM

also

unique maps are 76
if i count precise, but definetely not 84



aaand, wow-std versions are now mixed up so that -expansion maps- bar may begone
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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted January 29, 2004 02:24 PM

I am currently working on a HUGE maps page overhaul.

If I can get it to work the way I want it to, it will be much better.

I need to talk to Camel and Thunder, but would also like input from the other community members on an issue brought to my attention.

Topic: Unsuitable maps on Maps page.


Issue #1  

Marantea Isle.  Said to be medium map, but only half of 1 level is used so actually plays like a small.  Since Small maps are banned for TOH, this map shouldnt have passed initial Maps page guidlines.  Should this map be removed?  ANd are there any other maps on maps page that need cleaned out.

Issue #2:  

Remakes of exsisting maps??  I agree some if not many of the earlier maps could use an overhaul and balance done since we are now far more knowledgeable in the game now. But it has been suggested to me that we should just add the newely balanced version in addition to the older version that was being corrected?  This seems silly to me, but, I would like the input of the community.

If you want the Maps page redone so its not so cluttered etc we cant be remaking exsisting maps and giving them differnt names and dropping them on page IMO.

Keep in mind this is a serious request for serious input, no bashing or flaming is appropriate.  Keep your opinions to topic and not make it personal agasint anyone.  Otherwise, future decisions wont be involved with community.

Jinxer
MapCouncil Chairman.
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balcough_dra...
balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted January 29, 2004 09:50 PM

i think mars isle should be taken out
its a 5 day map
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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted January 30, 2004 03:36 AM

also i think we should remove the world is not enough (L)

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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted January 30, 2004 03:39 AM

nobody force you to play
on the other hand, many new players start playing h4 on these crap maps

question is,,
>they get encouraged to play more, because they re small and get sweetened of game?
or
>they get discouraged by low quality of map and leave..


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balcough_dra...
balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted January 30, 2004 04:40 AM

well having only good maps would make them learn game faster
since mars teaches you nothing but to pick death and get vamps

remember they don't have mod either
so they will be vamp crazy
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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted January 30, 2004 04:58 AM

i dont think it's possible to have fun on "the world is not enough"

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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted January 30, 2004 02:51 PM

looks fine to me..


btw, did you know one can buy immos on deep kick!?
if yes, whats all the fuss disabling blacksmiths then
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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted January 30, 2004 09:23 PM
Edited By: Jinxer on 30 Jan 2004

Okay I need to know before I post it, any objections.....??


Camel and Balcough made a revision to DogDays.

Made tuffer guards
Added some water and a small underground area.

But the map is still the same map bascially.  So I was just gonna replace the old unbalanced version with the new and improved one.  Is there any major objections to this?

IMO we cannot clutter the maps pages with slight variations to every map and give them a new name and post them.   That would be like taking all the oracles and quests outta Lost in Space so you could attack when ever you wanted and calling it Rush in Space and concidering it a totally new map lol. Bascially a few removed object or added objects doesnt make a new map.

Anyways, I want a general concencus on this... if I get several serious input posts on this we can lean which ever the way the majority thinks.  Otherwise I am gonna just replace the old version with the new version and call it DogDays 1.2 etc

Jinxer
"Map Council Chairman"    <----- For Teacher


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the_teacher
the_teacher


Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
posted January 30, 2004 10:06 PM

maps

where the heck is "map council chairman" signature?
i used to like that.

i think anything that bring a refreshing look to old maps, considering they as improvements , worths mentioning and posting. i did that with  so called "cheesy" map collection, making them more playable and adjusted for mod .
but it seems no one were interested , so i didn't bring the subject into discussion.

any good change is welcome , wether is a map of our style or not. I support the idea.




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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted January 30, 2004 11:42 PM

Quote:
Otherwise I am gonna just replace the old version with the new version and call it DogDays 1.2 etc


we already said ok to this

just post as 2.0 (not 1.2, to avoid confusion) and post with the NEW screenshot (so that people don't think it's the same as the old dog days when they see it on the map page), and under author put balcough + camel.

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