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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: ****HOMM4 map council discussion/ deliberations****
Thread: ****HOMM4 map council discussion/ deliberations**** This thread is 17 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 · «PREV / NEXT»
deth8
deth8


Promising
Known Hero
posted December 24, 2002 04:20 PM

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...... by 3d'oh ,giving us the transfer anti-bug patch.

..or maybe some 'simultaneous turns' patch..
,,eerr,,ok,,just kidding here..didnt mean it
,,sorry



Totally agree.  I unistalled my HOMM4 after 15 mins of play seeing the sucky graphics I was afraid of in many places.  Finally, I forced myself to play the game for game sake since my brother inlaw got me to play a game of AgeofW2.  I can just get used to the graphics and not look at other games (blissful ignorance), but it is tragic.

Anyhow....my point was...iiii the transfer rates absolutely suck.  I started playing a game today online for the first time and it IS KILLING homm4 online.

I fear 2do will not be doing anything until one of their next expansions requires it.  IMO 2do only updates the game prior to a new expansion coming out that requires changes.  Look at that latest poll on the celestial heavens (went there to download some hacks today btw), according to the poll (not a good sample) most people don't even play HoMM4 online.  First interactions with even gamespy will drive many people to too much frustration and then when you actually get a game up you find 15 min turns are actually not when your opponent is playing.  I thought my opp was actually doing some very strategic worrisome calculations in battle.....LOL

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Camelnor
Camelnor


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Also known as Blue Camel
posted December 24, 2002 06:45 PM

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I have upload powers  =)  Muhahahaa  , but I know ves doesnt want me messing with the map page.  SO even if I uploaded the maps I couldnt alter the map page to offer thye links to them...  I could however make a front page news item about the new maps with links to them there =)  That might work until ves gets back



Yeah, that's what I was thinking... because even though Bob may not have uploading powers, he DOES have reporting list powers... meaning he could add these maps to the reporting list, and we could make a "New TOH Maps Here" thread in here and have the exact same stuff that would be there if it was actually posted by ves on the map page... screenshot, description, players, etc.

And of course, like you said, you can make a news item with a link to the thread

Anyway, This sounds like a great idea to me... just waiting for the OK by bob
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Camelnor
Camelnor


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Also known as Blue Camel
posted December 25, 2002 06:19 AM

Oh yeah, forgot to mention -

For any people that have The Gathering Storm, and would like to try a new map, I have a new map --- "Iopoiu".

Click here to download it.

The reason i made it a GS map and not a reg h4 map, is because originally it was going to be submitted to the 3do map contest, so I figured they wouldnt mind it being Gathering Storm.  However I missed the deadline... but obviously I didnt want to just abandon the map, so I finished it, and here it is.  And anyway, it is good because a few people want to play GS maps for TOH, so we need at least a couple of GS maps up there.

Anyway, hopefully you will be doing something more interesting on Christmas than playing my map!  
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dEth8
dEth8


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posted December 31, 2002 09:46 AM

noob questions about shipyards

I have not read through all the messages in this thread but I do want to ask this to make sure it gets taken care of if it has not been.

On the XL map ....... there's only one so far.... there are certain areas that if you build a shipyard you cannot board your ships and it puts them in accessable spots.  So basically you have to build about 3 or 4 ships to be able to use one.

Has the ship building been an issue and addressed or not?

Also, played superheroes for the first time yesterday.......red town has option to build a shipyard and I assumed this was an error since my opponent told me he didn't have the option (I like to play the maps blind for the first time).  Anyhow, to correct the map the shipyard build ability should be removed from the red start town.  Or is this not a selectable option for a town near the water?

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Camelnor
Camelnor


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posted December 31, 2002 07:37 PM

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I have not read through all the messages in this thread but I do want to ask this to make sure it gets taken care of if it has not been.

On the XL map ....... there's only one so far.... there are certain areas that if you build a shipyard you cannot board your ships and it puts them in accessable spots.  So basically you have to build about 3 or 4 ships to be able to use one.

Has the ship building been an issue and addressed or not?

Also, played superheroes for the first time yesterday.......red town has option to build a shipyard and I assumed this was an error since my opponent told me he didn't have the option (I like to play the maps blind for the first time).  Anyhow, to correct the map the shipyard build ability should be removed from the red start town.  Or is this not a selectable option for a town near the water?


The issue hasnt been addressed because it isnt an issue in any of the maps really... Zanfas' Challenge being one of the lone exceptions... and no one plays it anyway

And, as Ive said before, any town can build a shipyard unless the mapmaker disables it in that town.  
The only water on the map could be on the opposite side of the map, but you can still build a shipyard in the castle on the other side of the map.  If you have a shipyard in a castle and build a ship, the ship will be placed in the closest water, whether that water is right next to the castle, or on the other side of the map.

The easiest way to make sure that the ship is built in a reachable place, is to put impassable objects in the water along the coastline where you would not be able to reach a ship from the land if the ship were placed there.  This way the shipyard is forced to put it where there is a open coastline...
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Laelth
Laelth


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Laelth rhymes with stealth.
posted December 31, 2002 07:52 PM

dEth8,

Glad you're finally giving H4 a try.  Hope you enjoy it.

As for the shipyard thing, I can't really answer your questions, but I need to go back and test my maps based upon the information Camelnor just provided.  Are we certain that all towns can build the shipyard unless it's actively disabled by the mapmaker?  If so, I was unaware of this.  From my maptesting, it seems that towns will automatically have the shipyards disabled unless there's a water square/hex within 2 squares/hexes of either the left or right corner of each town.  Is this not the case?

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deth8
deth8


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posted December 31, 2002 07:58 PM

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The issue hasnt been addressed because it isnt an issue in any of the maps really... Zanfas' Challenge being one of the lone exceptions... and no one plays it anyway


I, as in a nobody for certain , have recently played 3 times.  It's a pretty fun map in my opinion.  Least the 3 guys I was playing with had a good time, but we ARE all noobs too

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And, as Ive said before, any town can build a shipyard unless the mapmaker disables it in that town.  
The only water on the map could be on the opposite side of the map, but you can still build a shipyard in the castle on the other side of the map.  If you have a shipyard in a castle and build a ship, the ship will be placed in the closest water, whether that water is right next to the castle, or on the other side of the map.



This could be interesting in some situations.

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The easiest way to make sure that the ship is built in a reachable place, is to put impassable objects in the water along the coastline where you would not be able to reach a ship from the land if the ship were placed there.  This way the shipyard is forced to put it where there is a open coastline...


I hope this will be a part of future map updating and creations.  It is very simple to include and also helps game play quite a bit.  Really too bad the programming is not smart enough to create usable boats though.

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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


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posted January 02, 2003 02:11 AM
Edited By: Blue_Camel on 1 Jan 2003

Today Deth was so kind as to make several updates on the map page

The biggest update was the addition of a great map by Jinxer called "Genesis".  Its a Large map, but plays like a Medium.  Ive played the map and it makes for a great game... "Genesis" is a great addition to the TOH Maps Page.

Also one of my personal favorite updates () was the uploading of my new Gathering Storm (soon to be converted to a reg h4 map also, thanks to Slava's new Heroes 4 utility ) map "Iopoiu".

Also, Insatiable is now rightfully recognized as the author of "KingBounty vs. KingBurger", and WeapOn is recognized for "Round the World"

Also, the 2 player version of "Shallow be thy Game" has been updated to nullify the apparently unbalancing "ice demon advantage" that the host has...

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Also, due to confusion in which people thought that Camelnor and Blue Camel were two different people, I have dropped the HC "Camelnor" name and now am known everywhere as Blue Camel .
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Destro23
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posted January 02, 2003 02:48 AM

Genesis

I'd Just like to take this opportunity to say WOW @ the new map Genesis by Jinxer..

I've just completed a trial run through this map with a buddy for fun and what A fun time! We played it totally blind. And it was a great game from the first minute on.

Well Done Jinx!!

I'll hope to see you soon for a true test of the map maker

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The Dead Walk!!!

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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


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posted January 05, 2003 07:41 AM
Edited By: Blue_Camel on 5 Jan 2003

w 0 0 t!


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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted January 05, 2003 07:48 AM

y a y !


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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted March 16, 2003 06:49 AM
Edited By: Blue_Camel on 16 Mar 2003

well, i am leaving for almost 2 weeks now

1st or 2nd day when i get back, Under the Bridge will be released, so you have something to look forward to

Anyway, i figured i'd revive my favorite HC thread when I said goodbye
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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted March 16, 2003 04:52 PM

that's a relief ... no more camels

didn't the script blow out?!
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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted March 18, 2003 08:52 PM

hey blue_camhl
cant download homm3 maps from your cabin

btw,opened that homm4 XL,'Archipelagos' one
OMG!..what a waste of mapmaking energy!

or isnt it..?
i guess we never know

bring on the 4wayz!

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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted March 22, 2003 11:19 AM
Edited By: insatiable on 22 Mar 2003

desert war is Gathering Storm

..same with BoB,i open and says its gs
my editor gone bad?
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Laelth
Laelth


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Laelth rhymes with stealth.
posted March 22, 2003 10:57 PM

My editor says "Gathering Storm" too, Insatiable, for both maps.

just confirming ...

-Laelth
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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted March 24, 2003 09:12 PM

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..same with BoB,i open and says its gs
BoB=Battle of Bastards
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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


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posted March 30, 2003 08:26 AM

well it's about damn time... i am back

and insa, why cant you d/l h3 maps from cabin?
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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted March 30, 2003 07:28 PM

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well it's about damn time... i am back
..yes
but .. who are you?

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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


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posted March 31, 2003 04:24 PM

boo to you insa
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