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angelito
Honorable
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proud father of a princess
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posted January 09, 2007 09:21 PM |
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This was true before the patches "repaired" it. All versions with latest patch show the correct damage for cerberi (2-7)
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tenzor
Adventuring Hero
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posted January 09, 2007 10:11 PM |
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This was true before the patches "repaired" it. All versions with latest patch show the correct damage for cerberi (2-7)
In my HOMM III complete (Mac version), Cerberi have max. damage 5 (appears in crtraits.txt extracted from .lod file)
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Ecoris
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted January 10, 2007 12:44 PM |
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I stand corrected then. Still, saying that damage output is tripled is a wild exaggeration.
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God2
Adventuring Hero
Your benevolent deity
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posted January 10, 2007 01:37 PM |
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Doubling, and in some cases with the Cerberus, tripling damage output.
That's wrong. A hell hound deals 2-7 points of damage while a cerberus only deals 2-5. That's a loss of 1 point or 22%. The attack stays at 10.
Furthermore it's very unlikely that your opponent will allow you to hit 3 (or even 2) creatures at once.
The best aspect of the upgrade is certainly the no retal IMO.
My vote goes to vampire -> vampire lord.
Ah, but that is why I wrote "and in some cases, triple damage". In addition, I also have the HOMM3 complete for macintosh, and they do deal 2-7 after the upgrade. I have updated the game of course.
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HeymlicH
Famous Hero
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posted January 10, 2007 01:43 PM |
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Not only the Cerberi do attack three units, they also have the no retailation special. So in fact they do 6 times the damage !!!
The only bad thing about them is that I know this and usually shoot down the Cerberi before they are in melee range, so actually the don't do any damage at all  Zero damage - this is making them the worst of all creatures, isn't it? 
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Ecoris
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted January 10, 2007 02:16 PM |
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Edited by Ecoris at 14:16, 10 Jan 2007.
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@ God2
I misunderstood what you meant. "rare cases" would have been more accurate.
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So in fact they do 6 times the damage
What an odd (and misleading) way to look upon it.
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poland32
Tavern Dweller
Poland Power!!!
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posted May 27, 2007 09:54 AM |
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Giant-Titan
Vampire-V.Lord
Hell Hound-Cerberus
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doom3d
Known Hero
Avatar of general Z
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posted May 27, 2007 05:04 PM |
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gremlin -> master gremlin
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
gets back
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posted May 30, 2007 02:00 PM |
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Efreet - > Sultans is pretty important as well. 6 sultans day 8 are killers.
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liophy
Famous Hero
Bulgarian
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posted May 30, 2007 02:55 PM |
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I thing the best upgrade must be valuated by the difference between nonupgraded and upgraded creature and the cost.
Obviously the archangels are the suprime creatures. But angels are not bad either and the cost of upgrade is huge. So - its not so vital in comparison with other upgrades. So, there it is:
Archers - marksman
Elves - Grand Elves
Gremlins - Master Gremlins
Giant - Titans
Harpy - Harpy Hags
Wolf Rider - Woolve Raider
Vampire - Vampire lords
Gorgon - Mighty Gorgon
Pixie - Sprites
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted May 30, 2007 08:34 PM |
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Gorgons- Mighty Gorgons
Vampire- Vampire Lord
Wood Elves-Grand Elves
Archer-Marksman
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Moonlith
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
If all else fails, use Fiyah!
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posted June 03, 2007 02:48 AM |
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I'd say Gorgons are the best upgrades. It turns a regular level 5 unit into a Tier-7 slayer.
I'd like to see Titan top that.
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Evil_Warrior
Famous Hero
Duke of Demon
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posted June 03, 2007 02:22 PM |
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Yanzhangcan
Known Hero
*Dance*
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posted June 16, 2007 04:18 AM |
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted June 17, 2007 02:27 AM |
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Actually, I'm going to revise mine to Vamp Lords. Both are deadly in large numbers, but the Lords just don't die. Gorgon-->MG comes in second.
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Azja
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 25, 2007 12:08 AM |
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My fav is vampire lords but titans, grand elves and crusaders also make a great change.
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Bombur
Known Hero
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posted July 25, 2007 09:17 AM |
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Angel-Archangel
Behemoth-Ancient behemoth
Giant-Titan
Vampire-Vampire Lord
Harpy-Harpy hag
Wood-elf Grand elf
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pacifist
Famous Hero
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posted July 25, 2007 11:01 AM |
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Pit fiend -> Pit lord in some circumstances  . Everything depends on map, available ressources, lenght of game, number of castles, rules made by players, etc,...With 3 pit lords you can convert fight after fight all low-level troops into demons (big stack for main final fight) but 3 archangels will only resurrect (and not attack) 300 hp once. If I had to choose I choose the lords and keep 3 angels
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sheensher
Known Hero
and Slipknot FAn
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posted July 25, 2007 12:00 PM |
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giant - titan
red dragon - black dragon
wood elf - grand elf
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted July 25, 2007 03:09 PM |
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The thing with the lords is, they aren't that great at overall fighting. And I thought you could only raise demons once per stack?
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