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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 11:39 PM |
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h7 haven looks well made, while h7 necro looks like only color-shifted. huge differance indeed.
lich could get an entire different face+arms, no spider backs.
this is a matter of laziness. they simple dont want to work on necro as like in haven.
interesting.
anyone remember those "we learned our lessons" bullsnows? its happening again. dejavu. im acctually angry to myself to believe in them. lich was the most terrible creature of h6, and they just copied and pasted with coloshift.
this much disrespect... im most likely not gonna buy this game if this goes that way. they should fix somethings. bad town screen, bad necros, no inferno.. its just.. bad things are constantly stacking.
im speechless.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 11:39 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 00:08, 25 Jan 2015.
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
That's some hardcore protest Stevie ... I won't preorder! That'll teach them a lesson. lol
What is realy interasting is this tho: Most people here think very positive of H7 Haven. Some say it's best Haven to date. Yet:
Sentinel, Crossbowmen, Sister, Seraph, Cavalier ... all use the same models as in H6! Cavalier lost the glow ... and that's about it. Sister is almost identical as in H6 - almost no change. The diference in textures is not much greater than in Necropolis units.
Yet noone mentions that 
New models are 4: Landsknecht, Wolf, Chaplain and Guardian. That's about it.
In Necropolis they are: Spider, Bone Dragon and Grim Rider. One unit less. Not to mention warfare units haven't been revealed yet, and Hven reused Sister for one of these, and Academy simply used one unit (pyramid) 2 times 
So there. One more thing to protest about. Even if you like it
So much wrong, lol.
I'm just gonna make one thing clear. I'm not complaining about recycling per se and I've said it in some other post before. If the model is good, reuse it if necessary. But if the model is bad?!
But then again, the Lich for example is not the kind of bad you might think. The problem with the Liches, apart from being bald uncles high on meth, is the fact that if Ubisoft had all the money they wanted and made a remodel, it would still be a non-skeletal Lich. And that's because of lore. And lore is because of Erwan.
So there you get it, I can't possibly make myself more clear than that.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 11:49 PM |
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The diference ... It's COLOSAL !!
Oh wait ... no it's not.
I could post other units aswell, but haven't got the will nor do I want to waste space on this thread. You can check them out yourselves if you wish.
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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 11:54 PM |
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Edited by cleglaw at 23:56, 24 Jan 2015.
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in fact yeah there are huge differances. only thing in common is, they are both pikemans. thats all. colors-shapes-styles-armor parts all are different, feels much more different. how can you even compare this ones with vampire, so to say?
and also, more importantly, pikeman lore-apearence doesnt bother us much like necro elites do. this is the second huge differance.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 11:56 PM |
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supertommy
Known Hero
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posted January 25, 2015 12:00 AM |
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You can't compare that to the copy paste of Necropolis units. "The diference in textures is not much greater than in Necropolis units" you said. Then you better look again. There's more differences than there are similarities with the Haven units. Except they both have arm and legs like a normal human being...
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted January 25, 2015 12:08 AM |
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Ubi-Nox said:
Actually, posting do not grant you a lot of points (at all). However, you receive way more points when you get up-voted  = we consider that your opinion is apraised by the community like this so this is really important to earn XP.
Just reached max lvl
I see a flaw in this system though, sooner or later, all are bound to reach max lvl, how will you tell the difference then?
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 25, 2015 12:26 AM |
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I hope you're all aware of our discontent Ubi-Nox. If possible let the devs know we're protesting on the blog. The Elite tier especially is an just an offensive fraud. We appreciate the Reaper however, not all of us but most I think.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted January 25, 2015 12:27 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 00:28, 25 Jan 2015.
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The Grim Rider is the alive proof Necropolis could be very good in MMH7.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted January 25, 2015 12:31 AM |
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Stevie said:
I hope you're all aware of our discontent Ubi-Nox.
I don't think he has noticed it yet.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted January 25, 2015 12:44 AM |
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This whining...eugh...Such a snowing bore
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted January 25, 2015 12:48 AM |
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Stevie said:
I hope you're all aware of our discontent Ubi-Nox.
burning the midnight oil eh Ubi-Nox
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Ubi-Nox
Shaper of Lore
M&M Community Developer, Ubisoft
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posted January 25, 2015 01:02 AM |
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Edited by Ubi-Nox at 01:04, 25 Jan 2015.
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My position in the M&M team is to share information between the M&M Team & Communities, in both direction. I have then 2 sides to take into account and both love the same franchise and want the next installment to be good. I will share an overview of the situation to the team after the weekend, that’s all I can say right now unfortunately.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 25, 2015 01:04 AM |
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Edited by Stevie at 01:05, 25 Jan 2015.
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We won't stop until we get a reaction. For the record, I was seriously planning on preordering the game because of the enthusiasm I've got with Haven and Academy, and because of the mentality behind the process of development based on community feedback. But after seeing Necropolis' Elite tier I changed my mind, you can tell them that. If they don't care for us, they should care for money at least.
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supertommy
Known Hero
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posted January 25, 2015 01:07 AM |
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Now enjoy your weekend Ubi-Nox. 
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted January 25, 2015 01:12 AM |
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Nice to hear that. I just hope you can change devs' mind
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Darkem
Known Hero
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posted January 25, 2015 01:12 AM |
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Quote:
Galaad said: I see a flaw in this system though, sooner or later, all are bound to reach max lvl, how will you tell the difference then?
The only problem with this system is that the more flashy the comment is, more upvotes it get. It is said to see when simple hate post get more upvotes than the one with constructive criticism.
About Ubi-Nox post:
We shouldn't give him such a bad time. It's not his fault. Luckily he's a professional and I believe that he will do his best to improve our communication with devs.
@Ubi-Nox
Have a nice weekend! Thanks for your work, it matters.
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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted January 25, 2015 01:13 AM |
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Edited by cleglaw at 01:21, 25 Jan 2015.
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yeah we are at rage, riot whatever this is called.. and most likely wont stop easyly.
have a good week-end ubi-nox, we will be looking for news.
(Grim Rider is awesome btw.)
(ah btw your avatar at mmh7, amazing, i want that kha-beleth  )
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Ubi-Nox
Shaper of Lore
M&M Community Developer, Ubisoft
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posted January 25, 2015 01:16 AM |
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They care, that’s why I’m here & there The team really want to deliver something great and that’s also for this reason that I keep fighting to defend it. We still have new amazing things to unveil and I hope we will be able to make you change your mind in time. For now, I will share the info and raise the flags. But I’m not the only one who care about communities, not at all, I’m just the lucky guy who's job is to participate to discussions with a bit of M&M team name over his head.
Thank you guys, have a nice weekend too
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Findan
Adventuring Hero
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posted January 25, 2015 01:18 AM |
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Edited by Findan at 01:21, 25 Jan 2015.
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Poor Ubi-Nox, our little innocent Cabir
Anyway Ubi-Nox, I really hope you will repeat my question I've asked earlier to the person responsible for recycling idea
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This MEGA THREAD is pages long: 
