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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: Ubisoft asks our Help on H5 features.
Thread: Ubisoft asks our Help on H5 features. This thread is 11 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 · NEXT»
KittenAngel
KittenAngel


Supreme Hero
Lee's wifey
posted December 05, 2003 03:33 AM

Ubisoft asks our Help on H5 features.

This is a thread for all the features you would like to see in Heroes of Might and Magic 5. All the ideas and information in this thread is going to be sent straight to Ubisoft. Fabrice Cambounet has been in contact with Heroes community, and asking us for ideas and Input. Val has made me in charge of the features presentation for Fabrice Cambounet. Please post all features you would like to see in Heroes 5.

After the other 3 Mods that are assinged to do there parts for this have there threads up and running I will link them into this thread, for you all to put input into those threads as well.


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BountyHunter97
BountyHunter97


Famous Hero
King of all that is Chicken
posted December 05, 2003 03:42 AM

well, one thing 4 sure would b cool, as in all of heroes games it takes a couple of months to build a strong army and have a large scale battle, but what would b cool is like a type of game where u only battle, and u can set what the oppenent has or computer, and what u have and what difficulty level, spells and such, so u can pratice comabt skills on either small or large scale battles...
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wanderer
wanderer


Known Hero
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posted December 05, 2003 07:38 AM
Edited By: Kittenangel on 7 Dec 2003

UBI, please get out of the game that stupid "hero participating on combat"

also this example "hero has magic resistance skill, but troups don't ressist to magic" not good, why the skill then?

it's true that barbarians heroes can win a battle alone but still sux if you play other heroes than barb
also make the gameplay more close to heroes3 , and I guess that the graphics from homm4 fit well, nice ones.
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Consis
Consis


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Of Ruby
posted December 05, 2003 05:16 PM

I think the heroes3 game was well enough and could still be improved on.I'd like to see Heroes5 glorify heroes3 by writing another chapter or so that is related to such a fantastic work of art.I don't know if ubisoft could somehow find such a dedicated team as the one that worked on #3 but if they did I think a lot of fans would rally to the cause.I think we need the Heroes3 game mixed with the Heroes4 terrain.One could only surpass the portait art of Heroes3 if he/she enlisted someone like Rembrandt or the like.The artist that created those pictures should be encouraged by atleast showing him or her how many people he or she has touched and enthralled with such skill and talent.If you like have ubisoft contact me and I'll share all the accounts of neighbors, friends, and visiting guests that it has so wonderfully affected.A work of art should be treated as such; protected and put on display for all the world to see.
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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted December 06, 2003 07:37 PM

I would like to see atleast 8 creatures from the towns. That was one of the things I HATED about H4 was only 4 creatures and 2 of them were useless since they were soo weak and slow.

And MORE town choices. Have like 10-12 different town choices.


I think Heroes on the battle field CAN be a good thing as long as the heroes are ONLY there to support the army mainly. IN heroes 4 the heroes can win HUGE battles on there own, that is silly.  Leave the heroes on field but make them have tuffer defense so they dont just die super easy but make it so they are weak offensivly, you have to protect the heroes with your army etc.  ALSO, would be neat to have more than 7 units on battle field at a time.

Things to KEEP!!!
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NO chaining.  Each unit has own movement. That was the best change made in H4


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Kittenangel
Kittenangel


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Lee's wifey
posted December 06, 2003 11:01 PM
Edited By: Kittenangel on 6 Dec 2003

Thread cleaned this topic is to stay on what the topic was made for Ubisoft.......


Also when y'all post comments and Ideas can you please post what country you are from Fabrese has asked us to do this, so he knows where everyone is from.
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Aculias
Aculias


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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted December 07, 2003 06:07 AM

I agree with Jinxer even tho I been mentioning it for many times about having more selections.
Like heroes 3 we have plenty of castle types & creatures to choose from.

Most are used to undead living in the necropolis but the actual meaning is evil not the undead to clear thangs up with some spoiled players hehe.

I like to see some more selections also maybe even upgrades also.
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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted December 07, 2003 07:39 AM

Romania here (some associate it with the word cheat )

i agree to what jinxer is saying, but aculias : many creatures to "choose" from ? you just bought them all and that was it, there wasn't any choosing, and i think this is a good improvement too, choosing your tactics, the heroes on field, but nerfed on fighting capabilities, the magic system was developed much better than its predecesor, transfers can be a snow between certain players ..., heroes 4 was more of a map game than a heroes or creature game, mapmakers are the ones who are reinveting the game right now.

Thing is, that with more complexity to the game, comes more time spent on one game, take h4 compared to h3, h3 takes 3-4 hrs tops, h4 doesn't take 4 hrs on any map, except maybe dog days, its average is at 8 hrs a map, some going over 40 hrs of play
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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted December 07, 2003 08:14 AM
Edited By: SapphireRavyn on 20 Jun 2004

my opinion is to keep heroes on battlefield.. the more strategic possibilities the better
i think the power of retreating should be lessened.. arangar suggested to me earlier that it should work like the caravan works in h4.. so if you are retreating to a town on other side of map then it might take you 4-5 days for hero to appear there.

as for town types, i think there should be a kind of "chaotic balance" ..  for instance, one town type might have 3 possible Level 2 creature dwellings in his town, and be able to build two of them.  while another town may only have 2 possible Level 2 creature dwellings, and only be able to build 1, but he has the ability to build a special building which helps him in some other way... or maybe one of his Level 2s can be upgraded into a very powerful Level 2..in other words, all towns are TOTALLY different.. they all have completely unique build trees, with different amounts of dwellings for each level, and with some creatures/dwellings having upgrades and others not...  totally chaotic, but balanced.  this would be one of the chief ways imo to make a strategically engrossing strategy game.  "oh he gets to build one more Level 3 dwelling than me... oh but i may have the edge because i get +20% damage for all troops from a special building in my town.."
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Aculias
Aculias


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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted December 08, 2003 02:32 AM

I think ya missed understood me Valcy.
When I said choose i meant a good variety of castles to choose from & more then 4 creatures in it lol.
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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted December 08, 2003 03:14 AM

as much as i like h4, i agree that 4 levels is not enough.  i think 6 is good, maybe 7, maybe 8.  if it's as many as 10, then the creatures just get watered down.

i think 6 is the best number though.  especially if you have 2 creatures for some levels and 3 for other levels..
but having to choose between creatures is one of the best improvements that h4 made from h3.  you should definitely have to choose 2 out of 3, 1 out of 2, 1 out of 3, or 2 out of 4, creatures from each level, in h5.  of course, this should be done in a chaotic manner, not like in h4 where it's 1 out of 2 for every level in every town.

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Aculias
Aculias


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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted December 08, 2003 06:00 AM

I dont like that idea of picking between creatures at all,I think all creatures should have a role in the game not when you would not use Hydras 100% of the time in a game.

I know about the strategies it brings in choosing but I like it better where all creatures have a role & not making them obsolete in every game.
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Klauts
Klauts


Famous Hero
lost in a mourning hall!
posted December 08, 2003 09:58 AM
Edited By: SapphireRavyn on 20 Jun 2004

I think each town should have a unique scheme(u know like disciples) .. about graphic i think 2D combat is better ,heck it's a strategy game...
Now the hero problem,,,, ok each should have an unique skill..(or maybe 2 ) Hero shouldnt be in battle but... how bout before battle the other hero can be challenged to a duel just between the 2 heroes... now only 1 hero per army, also monsters shouldn't walk by them selves on adventura map...(wow a zombie is having a beer at the tavern)..
Thats all for now...

Klauts,
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Kittenangel
Kittenangel


Supreme Hero
Lee's wifey
posted December 08, 2003 09:48 PM

No Actually this thread is a very serious one. Comments from this thread are being sent to ubisoft, and Fabrese even looks at theres threads. You guys really need to learn when to toss and when not to and this is a thread that I will NOT tolerate it in.
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rychenroller
rychenroller


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted December 08, 2003 10:03 PM

My wishes for h5 are really simple....a template based RMG, not a script based one which was independently made for h4. If h5 has a cool RMG, I'll be playing it....any other changes I can live with.
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Angelspit
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Warrior of the Heavens
posted December 08, 2003 10:10 PM

Quote:
and Fabrese even looks at theres threads.

He will stop reading if you keep mispelling his name like that!  
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Kittenangel
Kittenangel


Supreme Hero
Lee's wifey
posted December 08, 2003 10:18 PM
Edited By: Kittenangel on 8 Dec 2003

ohhhh so sue me LOL...............

Anywho, Fabrice met up with an admin at the Heroic corner in Moscow today. Please visit the round table, on celestial heavens and post your comments on the interveiw. Please be sure you read the interveiw!
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KittenAngel
KittenAngel


Supreme Hero
Lee's wifey
posted December 09, 2003 06:05 AM
Edited By: KittenAngel on 9 Dec 2003

Just post what you feel, any argumental comments and tossing will be deleted ASAP
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consis
consis


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Of Ruby
posted December 09, 2003 06:35 AM

"Heroes 3 is too old"

Fabrice said heroes 3 is too old.You know what that tells me?He won't listen to the opinions of the all the people who have posted and are continuing to post some great characteristics from H3 that they would like to see implemented in part V.This is very depressing.I get the feeling their will be a very long wait ahead before we get another dissappointment like H4.I've completely lost all confidence in the future of this game.The only possible way for the Heroes scene to have even a remote chance of....oh what's the use.I give up.KittenAngel says the game's future would be better if WOG got their hands on it.And I saw some really great art posted by Vesuvious.People like this make the game great.I doubt that Ubisoft or the others are even paying attention to this forum.How utterly depressing!!!
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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted December 09, 2003 10:28 AM

ahhh, you talk out of your head, h3 worshipper, don't take things out of context, i can take 2,3 words out of your message and it would cause your post to be the exact opposite to what you've "logically stated" !

He said, heroes 3 is too old to release an expansion to it, read EVERYTHING, and that not enough people would buy the expansion, even if they would release it ! (because that's the truth, don't go screaming that you would buy, because you're the last 20-30 players of h3, many moved on - to h4, to age of wonders, to other games) As for the ones that play single player, you can bet they won't start playing a game that old again, just for 2 campaigns and some buffed up / nerfed units .

i am not denying that h4 has issues, it has, not as many as some of you "think", although that word may be inappropriate for some, but it does have, biggest one being the melee skill, which was nerfed by equilibris now, and maps are coming out with it banned. But, as h4, h3 had issues as well - dd/fly/townportal - which were addressed, but later on, after people realised they were ruining the game.

and personally i don't care if it's heroes on or off the battlefield, or whatever, i just want to get the feeling of playing HEROES, like i did with 1, 2, 3, and now 4 !

HEROES 5 goes Hentai !



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