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Blu
Blu


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posted December 21, 2003 08:25 PM

Gay people

  It is a fact now that gay people and couples are everywhere and that they are getting more popular with such shows as Queer eye for the strait guy, and stuff like that. But still some people reject that thought and hate the fact that their not doing it "the way God intended". Whats your insight on gay couples? Do you think they should still be accepted by community even more than they are, such as them getting married? What do you think.
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Wolfman
Wolfman


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Insomniac
posted December 21, 2003 09:08 PM
Edited By: Wolfman on 21 Dec 2003

I don't mind gay people.  But if they go around making a big deal about it, they are just asking for trouble.  They shouldn't get special treatment because they're different either.  

As long as they leave me alone, I don't care.
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LordZXZX
LordZXZX


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Overfished
posted December 22, 2003 02:26 AM

It's none of my business if anyone is gay. It's their right. But, like Wolfman said, they shouldn't make a big deal out of it. They only get people against them, like the churches in my country.

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Aculias
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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted December 23, 2003 10:38 AM

As long as they dont have a problem that I am straight then I dont have a problem that they are gay.

True there are probally half the population of people liking the same sex.

Even the Wolfman would get turned on if Hudson tried to hook up with him while debating on Irans new technology on nuclears
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Human
Human

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Humanist
posted December 23, 2003 02:44 PM

Well... everyone prefers to hide his head in the sand.
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frostwolf
frostwolf


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posted December 24, 2003 09:25 PM

It's a perosn's right to be happy. If that person finds happiness in a person of the same sex's arms, what's wrong with that?
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IRh
IRh


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Lizard
posted December 26, 2003 05:39 PM

Quote:
Well... everyone prefers to hide his head in the sand.

He obviously fears to be raped

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privatehudson
privatehudson


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posted December 26, 2003 05:57 PM

If I could work out what the hell Acu is saying I'd figure out how to respond to his remark...
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Wolfman
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posted December 26, 2003 06:59 PM

Something about Iran...
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Aculias
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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted December 27, 2003 03:52 AM

I knew you both wouls reply right next to each other & dont tell me theres somethang I know that yall didnt know lol.
You two need too loosen up a bit you act like politics is the only thang in this world lol.
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Wolfman
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posted December 27, 2003 04:37 AM

Isn't it the only "thang" in the world?
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privatehudson
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posted December 27, 2003 07:54 AM

Maybe he secretly means "thong" in the world? It reveals a lot about what's on his mind anyway
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Aculias
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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted December 27, 2003 11:24 AM

You fools LOL.
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Lord_Woock
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posted December 27, 2003 01:08 PM

Am I the only person who understands every Aculias post that I read?
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privatehudson
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posted December 27, 2003 02:25 PM

Yes, isn't that truly worrying?
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted December 27, 2003 02:38 PM

so wookie learned the thang&know the spell yes no?

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privatehudson
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posted December 27, 2003 02:42 PM

I think the disease is spreading...
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IRh
IRh


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Lizard
posted December 27, 2003 04:29 PM

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Am I the only person who understands every Aculias post that I read?

Obviously, he doesn't read his posts at all


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dArGOn
dArGOn


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posted December 28, 2003 05:42 AM bonus applied.

The issue of homosexuality has so many layers that I think it is important that people thoroughly think through their views versus just stating they are for or against it.  I have spent  a lot of time thinking and studying the issue of homosexuality and here are some of my thoughts.

First there is the scientific/psychological aspect.  Studies seem to indicate that there is a genetic link to homosexuality, while on the other hand literature indicates that the environment also has a strong impact.  We know that homosexuality is not completely genetic as the twin studies indicate that homosexuality is prevalent in about 40-50% of those identical twins who are reared separately and in different environment.  If homosexuality was completely genetic then there would be a 100% correspondence.  

Not to mention that lesbianism has shown no genetic component as of this date, the only studies to support any type of genetic component have been among homosexual men.  Thus one would conclude that homosexuality has a genetic predisposition that is brought to fruition through a certain type of environment (i.e. overbearing mother with distant father, etc).

Statistically homosexuality is rare.  The methods of the early Kinsey reports that purported 10% of the population is homosexual have been shown to be incredibly faulty and unscientific.  What the most thorough and rigorous research indicates is that approximately 2-4 percent of the USA population is exclusively homosexual.  

But then numbers don’t really prove anything…if 30 % or 1% of the population is homosexual that does not dictate whether it is wrong or right…all those numbers can indicate is whether something is “normal” or “abnormal”.  From the demographic statistics and fact that homosexuals can’t not procreate “naturally” one would conclude that homosexuality is abnormal.  Though one must remember that abnormal does not necessarily imply it is wrong.

The major religions (Judaism, Islam, Christianity) have historically always condemned homosexual behavior.  The Old and New Testament clearly state that homosexual behavior is a sin.  But a few points are important to remember.  One is that a homosexual person is never condemned, only homosexual behavior.  Furthermore homosexual sin is not the “great sin”, but is the same “degree” of sinfulness as adultery, fornication, lying, stealing, etc.  So many Christians are in great error when they self righteously focus on homosexuality, versus take a look at their own sins.  

Many argue that homosexual behavior is a victimless act so others should mind their own business.  This has an appearance of logic, but fails upon examination.  Bestiality, necrophilia, prostitution, bigamy, etc can all be argued to be a victimless act, yet still many in society would argue that they are wrong.  

Suicide is a “victimless” act, yet should it be tolerated?  There are people who desire to cut off their sexual organ so as to become their “true selves”….again this is a victimless act, yet should society accept such action as “normal”?  There is a subgroup of people who believe that their legs, arms, etc. are not part of their true identity thus seek out means of removing these body parts…is this to be accepted?  Thus just because something is victimless does not mean it is right or to be accepted by society.

Others would argue that no one should stand in the way of two people that love each other, but then again one would have to accept bigamy and some of the proponents of adult/child sexual relationships.  Adherents to the previous claim that love and reciprocity are foundational to their acts. So should society accept those behaviors just because they are acts of love?  I think not.

The issue of homosexuality has many different issues as it relates to the public at large.  Homosexuality has so many components that people can take varying stands upon such as marriage, civil unions, adoption, etc.  Personally I think that homosexuals should not marry as it is primarily a religious institution, but should be allowed to enter civil unions.  

Adoption I believe is acceptable as it provides some sense of family to unwanted children.  But the creation of a child to be reared in a homosexual relationship is unwise as research and common sense has shown repeatedly that both the female and male perspecitve/skills/invovlment is critical to the rearing of healthy children.  Any time a child is lacking of the “other sex” (whether from single parenthood, homosexual couples, etc) the child has been handicapped in life.

Personally I believe homosexual behavior is a sin and against God’s law, but does that necessitate that I think the government should “outlaw” homosexual behavior….the answer is a cautious no.  While I think that religious beliefs obviously inform our laws and ethics, I do think there is an unclear line in which religious expression and “secular” government should remain differentiated since we do not live in a theocracy.  How to define that line is incredibly difficult.

So in conclusion I think that homosexuality should not be promoted, but neither should homosexuals be persecuted.

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Wolfman
Wolfman


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posted December 28, 2003 07:19 AM

Excellent post dArGOn!  I sense a QP Plus, someone finally got the thread back on topic.

Seriously, this is an issue that needs to be gone over logically, as dArGOn has done.  Should it be promoted?  No, we don't promote Nazism, or Satanism.  But those are different things from homosexuality and not be treated as such.  
Nor is it education,and as such be promoted.  As I'm sure we can agree that education is important.  Laws shouldn't restrict it, but laws shouldn't make people accept it either.  People are going to believe anything they want.   Organizations such as the ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union, will sue as many people as they can to impose their views on the world.  But sometimes that is worse than the govenment restricting it, as the ACLU and others can sue whoever they want, no questions asked.  The govenment can't do that.
Whatever laws are passed, someone won't like it.  So the solution should be simply, don't do anything.  Don't restrict it, don't impose it on people.  Easier said than done, eh?
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