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Corribus
Corribus

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posted July 25, 2007 07:14 PM

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Nope there isnt any victim in an orgy dollface. LOL
Thats why you are INVITED to them.

You mean it's not like, "You are coming to my orgy NOW, or else...." ?

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violent_flower
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posted July 25, 2007 07:15 PM
Edited by violent_flower at 19:17, 25 Jul 2007.

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You forget I worked in the porn business.LOL


Thats right, my niece was a number one fluff girl in Miss. Tater Tot does Minot...
Tay, the adult bookstore industry is not the same as the porn industry, goof ball..Love you much, fluff girl...

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Setitetart
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posted July 25, 2007 07:22 PM

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Nope there isnt any victim in an orgy dollface. LOL
Thats why you are INVITED to them.

You mean it's not like, "You are coming to my orgy NOW, or else...." ?


Well I suppose if a Dom demanded it? LMAO


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You forget I worked in the porn business.LOL


Thats right, my niece was a number one fluff girl in Miss. Tater Tot does Minot...
Tay, the adult bookstore industry is not the same as the porn industry, goof ball..Love you much, fluff girl...


HAHAHAHAHAHA...OMFG....HAHAHA. *clears throat*
No not entirely the same but WHO do you think gets that material out to the people who want it?
I was in constant contact the wares of the business and the people involved directly IN that business.
I met quite a few porn stars, and the owner of the store I worked at owned a chain of stores...looked like some 70's throwback. LOL
Not to mention what our training consisted of....LOL
We HAD to know the difference between an orgy and a 3 way.
Among other things. *smirks*
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posted July 25, 2007 08:04 PM

wth...?

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If there is no victim in an orgy....I suppose we should simply let them all marry each other under the law. They should not be discriminated against. We've done seperate but equal before and it didn't work.


Consis... you do realise the difference between sex and marriage, right?

...or what a "victim" is, for that matter... please tell me you do
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posted July 25, 2007 08:30 PM

The only way that comes to my mind about someone becoming a victim in an orgy is if a guy accidentally gets screwed by another guy cause the lights were off and he couldn't see clearly

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posted July 25, 2007 08:41 PM
Edited by violent_flower at 20:46, 25 Jul 2007.

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If there is no victim in an orgy....I suppose we should simply let them all marry each other under the law. They should not be discriminated against. We've done seperate but equal before and it didn't work.


Consis,I know that you are married and three ways or orgies are probably not put in front of you as an option all the time. Lets understand what Lith is talking about here.

When one marries and then has a three way, it is understood by all partys, when it is not and the guy surprises the wife with a lets say, hot best friend of hers, then we have a little thing called divorce.

So the victim there would be the , this is to Consis, please no one give him any help, no audience participation, no phone call, and no fifty fifty fifty:  

A: The unexpected wife? (Oh pick me, pick me)
B: The husband because his wife kicked him out before he could even get started? (I think this should really be the answer)
C: The best friend, because she did not get to be with her best friend that she had really longed for, and was just using the husband to get to her?

Ok Consis, go ahead and no you may not say God because he has raised us better than that, or you as the victim because, well, you have never been so blessed as to have your wife dress up like a nurse and invite the other nurses over for a game of slap and tickle.  
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alcibiades
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posted July 26, 2007 10:07 AM

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If there is no victim in an orgy....I suppose we should simply let them all marry each other under the law. They should not be discriminated against. We've done seperate but equal before and it didn't work.


The reason why that wouldn't work is because of all the legal implications of marriage with regard to tax reliefs etc. From a moral point of view, I really don't care - that must really be up to the individual to decide what they want.

The youth group of one of the major political parties in Denmark recently suggested to allow bigamy ...
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Consis
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posted July 26, 2007 07:52 PM
Edited by Consis at 19:54, 26 Jul 2007.

I Say We Focus On Approach First

My point is I see people distinguishing homsexuality as "genetic". To imply that a person is born with a sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is a vague term. It simply means the direction in which one becomes sexually inclined. Those directions are not as easily defined as some people would like to believe.

As surely as a direction of thought can be infinite in its possibilities, so too can a direction of sexual attraction and arousal be infinite in its possibilities.

Corribus and some other people use a legal term "deviant" as used in the example, "sexual deviant". The word "deviant" itself can be described as a nautical term as in a course correction of some kind. For example the captain of the ship asked his helm's man, "Do not deviate from this course. Stay on course." In my experience deviation has mostly (but not exclusively) been used for a connotation toward describing someone's direction of movement. That in itself shows my inexperience with law terminology. Clearly in law terms it is meant to describe an inappropriateness of one's actions. Possibly it has to do with (in some way) describing a person's sexual (in this context but not limited to) actions in relation to what they (the writers of the law) believe to be the societal norm. The question then becomes: Who decides what a normal society is defined as? And who has the right to make such an assumption?

Inexorably....the question of anything but consentual sex between a man and a woman (and the decision of any state/government to substantively support such an arrangement) must be debated on grounds of the individual's rights, under the law, in a society. The act of consentual sex itself must be accepted on the basis of unequivically defining characteristics of human beings as a species.

Full circle.....FULL CIRCLE

Individual + Society + Written Laws that define the relationship of the two = Acceptable parameters

That seems the most logical equation (to me) to approach the debate of legalizing Gay marriage. But this thread is entitled "Gay People". I'm not sure how much attention that specific issue should be given. Especially, if you believe as I do, that the spectrum of humanity in and of itself is infinite. Not every person, gay or straight, wishes to get married. Marriage is but a single facet on the gem of an individual's pursuit of happiness.....assuming it is present at all.
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Corribus
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posted July 26, 2007 08:21 PM

Please note that when I originally used the term deviant, I did so using quotes.  Someone else used the term first.  I think deviant is too loose a term to use for rapists, child-molesters, or whatever.  They are beyond deviant.  On the other hand, I don't think it is fair to use it for homosexuals, because there is a pejorative undertone to it as it applies to human behavior.

You can play the semantics game all you want.  The point is that it doesn't matter if homosexuality is genetic, or if it's a choice.  People spend all this time trying to say/prove/justify whether it is one or the other.  It also doesn't matter if its normal, deviant, strange, crazy, beneficial or disgusting.  All that matters is: are they hurting anyone?  I do a lot of things that aren't "normal" - as I'm sure you do - and which thus might be described as "deviant" but who cares if I'm not hurting anyone?  If nobody was "deviant" from whatever society says was "normal", then society would be quite boring.  Deviation is what broadens the specturm of humanity.

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Shadey
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posted July 26, 2007 09:28 PM
Edited by Shadey at 21:30, 26 Jul 2007.

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All that matters is: are they hurting anyone?


They make baby Jesus cry and that hurts my feelings.

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baklava
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posted July 26, 2007 09:31 PM

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They make baby Jesus cry and hurt his feelings.



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Corribus
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posted July 26, 2007 09:38 PM

A picture is worth a thousand words.

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TheDeath
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posted July 26, 2007 09:41 PM

Especially if there's text on it

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posted July 26, 2007 09:48 PM

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They make baby Jesus cry and that hurts my feelings.


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posted July 26, 2007 09:57 PM

Alright - you've had your spammy fun - now lets get back on topic pls folks
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alcibiades
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posted July 26, 2007 10:35 PM

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All that matters is: are they hurting anyone?


They make baby Jesus cry and that hurts my feelings.


Sorry Pan, but this post is just so brilliant that it needs to live on forever.




Anyway, I need to adress Consis' post from above. I'm not sure I understand all of it, there is an awful lot of fancy words in it ... but you adress the matter of marriage, and the whole thing with orgies and stuff, solely from a moral point of view, which is probably why we speak past each others. I don't care about the moral issues, let people do whather they want. But when it comes to marriage, it's not longer just a religious ceremony, it has a lot of juridic implications. Withholding marriage from gay people discriminates them under the law in a way that's unfair. But drawing the parallel to gay sex -> rights for gay marriage to orgies -> rights for multiple marriage is not an valid argument in my point of view. Neither homo-, hetero- nor whatever-sexuals have rights for multiple spouses, and therefore the two cases are not comparable.
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bixie
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posted July 26, 2007 11:42 PM

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All that matters is: are they hurting anyone?


They make baby Jesus cry and that hurts my feelings.


why do people either go for baby jesus or the lord jesus christ? why can't they go for "That rotten teenager jesus christ!"
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mvassilev
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posted July 26, 2007 11:47 PM

Multiple marraiges are a different topic. However, for the record, I am for legalizing them as well.
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bixie
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posted July 27, 2007 12:01 AM

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Multiple marraiges are a different topic. However, for the record, I am for legalizing them as well.


as long as the two who i marry are good friends, and i don't have to choose between which one i am going to sleep with tonight.

or maybe have different wifes for different occasions, and they are free to go with another husband for other times. one big circulatory marital system.


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mvassilev
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posted July 27, 2007 12:04 AM

I could be married to, say, 3 women, and each of them could be married to 3 men. I see nothing wrong with that, except we wouldn't really form a household if we had that many people.
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