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Mytical
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posted December 31, 2007 12:07 PM

Still waiting to an answer to my question from those who don't want gay relationships to exsist.  Would they want somebody to tell them who to care for, love, ect?  Sorry, no you can't date that Supermodel, but Rosanne Barr is right up your ally....*giggles*.  I know for a fact (regardless of what they say) that they would be the first protesting about being told who they could be with.
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posted January 01, 2008 07:28 PM

Penalty removed from Daystar. Guys the spam here is past the acceptable limit, please stay on topic and try to post with some respect for each other - thank you
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posted June 16, 2008 08:29 PM

Daystar, I understand you are a person which suffers from the horrible curses of bisexuality, atheism and freedom of speech, and that is an illness that can be cured (my preferred method is a magnificent pyre of flames in a town square; the inquisition knew what was the best way of demon purging), but you don't have to attack true, healthy believers which do their best to fulfill God's will, like Scarlet. We are merely trying to help you see the light and turn to the path of righteousness.

And about your evolution theory. That's all it is - a theory. Your gravities and round planets and all of that - that is merely an illusion created by our Lord to test our faith; and it never brought anything good for humanity. Your cellphones and helicopters and toothpaste serve only to further Satan's goals and tighten his grip on the souls of young believers. You refuse to see that, but one day, you will, and you will indeed repent for your blindness and your sins and all the vile blasphemy and sodomy you committed throughout your life; I just hope, for your sake, that it will not be too late.
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posted June 16, 2008 08:45 PM
Edited by del_diablo at 20:46, 16 Jun 2008.

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You and your race of pathetic-insect humans should be banished from this planet, there is no place anymore for prehistoric-thinking religious vermin.
Unfortunately, your opinion means nothing to me, atheist. And like pharaoh, you will fail to take our faith from us.



I really enjoy talking to conservativ people, simply because it is so fun to shatter their image of the world along with the way they read and think of that and that on it.
Simply you must remember that Jews, Cristians and Muslims pray to the same God. And they "enjoy" calling each other infidels and heretics, but due the way the world is moving it will soon be impossible to keep doing that.
And why do you condem people who fall in love with the same gender? A few bible passages? I really find it funny!

I will reffere to a few passages that is usually used:
*Genesis 1:28
*Genesis 19
*Varius from Levitus

1:28 reffers to breeding and spreading humaniety over the face of the earth, it is all about the next generations. It does not condem love, nor relationships. It is all about the next generation.

Note: Earth can suffer overpopulation, it will result in mass starvation and large social problems for generations.

Genesis 19 is a very big klobber indeed, as far as i remember the males in Sodom is married and they have sex with others of the same gender of the top of that.
God "destroyed" the city after Lot and his familie got away.
There is rape, ritual sex, the bastards are married. Add on its 4 citys. And they wanted to rape the 2 angles.
And since Lot had lived there for a long time, why would he offer his 2 virgin daugther at a age of 14 to a mob? He would obiusly know if they was all homosexual, so why even attempt to do so?

Levitus is the funnyest part of the bible, some people use just 1 passage here to condom people. And the word used(translated) is "ambomination", hence the orginal word in hebrew "To'ebah".

But anyway it condems: "Do not sleep with a man as it were with a woman"
What does this condem? A male sleeping with a male? A male having sex with a male to have baby? A male having sex with another male thinking he is having sex with a female? A male who performs vaginal sex with another male is a abomination?
Anyway it does not even attempt to condem lesbians per definition.

Obiusly, you lose. Keep on with the hotlinks if you don't dare.

I think i got proff of selective selection of bible passages accordung to this!

Source!

And on the other side: The pharao wanted slaves to build and do stuff, never wanted to convert them.



Abd heck.......... i am curius of one thing: Why to read the bible word for word when its mistranslated and keep on saying it is 100% true. Everything in it happend. All the authors was knocked in the head by God who forced them to write history down.

PS: grow up, i am attempting to do so.

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baklava
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posted June 16, 2008 09:10 PM

Irony mode off... for now

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some people use just 1 passage here to condom people

Did you really say "condom people" or is it just my imagination?

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I really enjoy talking to conservativ people

I really enjoy talking to people who say "condom" instead of "condemn"

Right, seriously now, you got the basic idea right, but I have to say a few things that crossed my mind about your post...

-Is screwing other guys in the butt really the solution to prevent planetary overpopulation? Except in South Park
-A decline of religion would not stop people from calling each others heretics. Cause then you have political differences - democrats, radicals, communists... People can always find some reason to shoot each other. So it's not as simple as "you religious people hate each other".
-There's a difference between "doing stuff" and being forced to labour to death under whips in the middle of a desert while your masters treat you as private property.

I agree about people who take the Bible literally though.

PS I've known children with far clearer and more rational views than a lot of grownups

Right, back to zealous-crusader-on-a-holy-mission mode
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posted June 17, 2008 01:29 PM

This woman is scary
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posted June 17, 2008 03:48 PM

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This woman is scary


She's just like this
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted June 17, 2008 04:24 PM

I still can't believe this is even an issue today.  Is there nothing more important to direct our attention to, like global warming, the economy, or alternative energy sources?  You know, solving the problems that threaten our existence as a species?
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Daystar
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posted June 17, 2008 04:24 PM

Ah!  My shock and joy at seeing an old friend caused me to slip back to my ancient heathen ways!  I must beat myself over the back like nuns used to do!  'ang on.

....

I am better now.  How can you say that woman is scary?  She is a good, true believer who is in no way going to hell.
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posted June 17, 2008 04:30 PM

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I still can't believe this is even an issue today.  Is there nothing more important to direct our attention to, like global warming, the economy, or alternative energy sources?  You know, solving the problems that threaten our existence as a species?

Well, the woman in the video certainly seems to think this is a problem that threatens our existence as a species.  She's also clearly a lunatic...
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted June 17, 2008 04:48 PM
Edited by OmegaDestroyer at 16:49, 17 Jun 2008.

I wish I had enough free time to deveote to caring about what consenting adults wish to do with thier time.
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posted June 17, 2008 09:53 PM
Edited by Darkshadow at 21:57, 17 Jun 2008.

But its not their decision, its the stupid head in charge of them.

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This wasn't very nice of you, you know. I know it's a part of "political correctness" to bash religion everywhere and show how cool atheist you are, but this obviously not belong in a thread about gay people, so don't you mind if I ask you to take your enlightened speech elsewhere? For example, the thread by TA.
And just watch from side how religious people bash gays?no thanks, its more of political correctness to allow people do what they want as long as it does not break any set law.And Bashing Gays is not good, they are living beings just like you, if you got problem with that you should go see a psychiatrist or something.Also Cooler=Colder
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posted June 17, 2008 10:06 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 22:07, 17 Jun 2008.

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]And just watch from side how religious people bash gays?no thanks, its more of political correctness to allow people do what they want as long as it does not break any set law.


You are acting totally hypocritical, bashing one thing and acting as a "defender" of another, yet does it really matter whether you bash poeple's sexuality, beliefs, appearance or life style. You should simply not bash people if you want to act just and correct, otherwise you are just a person brainwashed by propaganda and political correctness, taught, trained to do praise one things and bash another, without any real thinking behind it. Think about it. Why do you even care about gay people's hurt feelings if you completely don't care for religious' people's hurt feelings? Do some ppl seem "more equal" to you? You are not "correct". You are an hypocrite.

I have two gay friends but they would never want me to "defend" their sexuality in such a pathetic way. I would stand up for them if they were openly abused because of their sexual orientation as much as they would stand for me if I were abused because of me being a Christian. That's how friendship and tolerance works. You got it in a totally wrong, twisted way. Sorry.

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posted June 17, 2008 10:06 PM

Ok, LOGIC(or how it is spelled):

A bashes B, then C starts bashing A for bashing B.

In this case:

A = Religius ekstremist (not buddhist)
B = Homosexual person
C = Likely to be Atehist

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posted June 17, 2008 10:10 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 22:14, 17 Jun 2008.

there is nothing bad in telling an religious extremist to shut up.

but..

distinguish it from calling religious ppl "trash to be purged". That's offensive and simply dumb.

but that's the hypocrisy. If a gay activist says religious ppl are trash to be purged out of earth, he will not have any problems because of it.

But if a religion activist says gay ppl are trash to be purged from earth, he will be sentenced. Isn't that hypocrisy?

I mean, don't both sides break what we want to retain: tolerance for the ppl thinking/acting/looking/f*cking the different way?

I know it's too much for tiny brain ppl raised in anti-religious and pro-gay propaganda, but oh well. There is no logic behind it anyway.

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posted June 17, 2008 10:20 PM

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its more of political correctness to allow people do what they want as long as it does not break any set law.
By that logic, if we have a law against gays, then gays are bad, so it's ok to discriminate them since the law says so?

or think about the 'crusades laws', should we follow those too if they somehow enter our society? I think that the "do not bother" morality principle is far beyond the system of laws and is not dependent on it -- the latter is the force, the first is the understanding

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posted June 18, 2008 06:42 AM

Hmm women who want more.

Well lets forget about the guys who buy 250k sports cars because of midlife crisis or compensating for something.

Lets forget about the guy who wants a 60" plasma tv.

Heck lets even forget about the guy who buys front line superbowl tickets.  And please, lets forget about K-Fed (who lived off of a certain somebody elses fame and money).

Are there some golddigging women?  Yep.  And there are some guys who buy 16000 dollar rolexes while their kids go hungry.  Who arn't man enough to be a parent, even if they are father.  (any two bit idiot can have a child, takes a real man or woman to be a parent).

You forget that women can make their own money now.  There are some who neither want nor NEED to be a golddigger.
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winterfate
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posted June 18, 2008 07:08 AM

@Misty and Omega: Been there, done that (kinda).

I've had a 64'' LCD television before. It's fun for a while, but once you get used to it, it's one of those items that you "meh" at.

Also, to veer this on-topic a bit, I agree with Omega...who has the free time to worry about what people do in their intimacy?

I have homosexual friends and some bi friends as well. I don't treat them any differently from my other friends. All this world truly needs is a bit of tolerance.
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Mytical
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posted June 18, 2008 07:20 AM

Tolerance and a good swift kick in the..
Assuming it would do any good that is.

It's odd that when you try to get people to be a bit more tolerant, they counter with how intolerant you sound.  There is just too much hate in the world, and for what?  It accomplishes nothing but keeping us from achieving our full potential.

Yeah there are somethings that shouldn't be.  Child Molestors, rapist, etc.  Because the people they victimize usually do not have a choice.  What two consenting adults do sexually is nobody's business.

All the religions i've studied (and there are a lot), have apparently taught me different then what they have taught some.  Be good to one another, let whatever higher power you believe in sort things out in the end.  It really just isn't that important to hate or even kill others just because they are different.  Neither is skin color, or bisexuality or homosexuality.

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posted June 18, 2008 07:38 AM

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There is just too much hate in the world, and for what?  It accomplishes nothing but keeping us from achieving our full potential.


*sigh*

So true...
Humans can be petty creatures though.
For example, some people spend a lifetime accumulating wealth (*cough* one of my many uncles *cough*)...for what? It's like my dad always says:

"When you die, you can't take any of these things (referring to worldly, material things) with you."

My uncle is going to kick the bucket one day (in the very, very far future I hope ), and all of his hard-earned wealth will be in the hands of his children; my cousins. Now, I'm not saying they won't make good use of the money, but what's the point in having things if you can't enjoy them?

Ermm...I kinda veered off topic again didn't I?

Ok...where was I? Oh yes...human pettiness.

Well, I guess people use hate over intolerance and other such things to evade the truly important things in life. Like Omega said, we have global warming to worry about (just one example of something world affecting), yet we prefer to worry about something as trivial (in comparison) as sexual preference of a group of people.

Homophobia can be a dangerous thing. Case in point, there are people who try to make gays and lesbians look like they're the death of this world, when in all reality just as many heterosexuals have done reprehensible things. I'd go into details, but it could get messy.

Hint: He's in a position of power...

(Been a while since I've entered a debate. )
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