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Thread: Towns you feel... uncomfortable with. This thread is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 · «PREV / NEXT»
Russ
Russ


Promising
Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
posted February 02, 2006 03:46 PM

Red orb isn't normal. In how many games exactly have you had one? Air Magic isn't normal on Demoniac heroes as well. Well, you *could* *try* to get air instead of earth, but that will make most blocks impossible to deal with and on most templates you'll end up fighting an enemy with 30/30/30/30 stats because he had all of the treasure area to himself.
Earth Magic, on the other hand, is normal. It is relatively easy to get it. (Read my thread about skill % chances). If you choose the right hero and pick the right skills, you are almost guaranteed to get earth. As a matter of fact, ever since I figured out how to get earth, I've never had a game where I didn't have expert earth.

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King_Taptin
King_Taptin

Tavern Dweller
posted February 03, 2006 04:41 AM

I dont like the fortress.  It has no good archers and its first few creatures are terrable.  Its a little harder to get a good game started.  Also... im not a fan of the stronghold. there fast..but they lack magic..to bad


I like the tower..just sit there with titans and magi and combined with magic..pick the enemy off one my on while the army approaches u.  Also..nagas rock

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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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posted February 03, 2006 11:55 AM

And just how long do you think it'll take the enemy to get to your shooters?
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Fortress_fan
Fortress_fan

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posted February 03, 2006 03:42 PM

I don't like rampart, all the other towns have specials, but not them, they are just medicore in all aspects, their buildings, their units (exept for the grand elf), their grail. They are a medicore town! The other towns have pros and cons, but Rampart have not! That suks! My favorite? Fortress! (even if Conflux come close)

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Russ
Russ


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blah, blah, blah
posted February 03, 2006 03:48 PM

Stronghold's Crag Hack with expert air magic + tactics will be all over your shooters on turn 1. He doesn't need more than 1 level 1 spell to do so. If he attacks first, you won't even get to move until all of his units hit yours (except for ogres and orcs). With Crag's high attack rating, offense skill + specialty, he is likely to have more than 100% damage bonus. If Crag manages to find another Stronghold and double build it, you could say it is an automatic win for him.

But Tower is a very nice and often underestimated town. It has very good and strong units with useful specialties. Its heroes are a bit weak compared to, Say, stronghold, fortress or dungeon heroes, but Neela is nice despite the fact she starts with scholar and doesn't gain might skills very often. Getting gems could be hard, though. But if your enemy does not have a way to counter your mass slow, it is almost a guaranteed win.

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greek_god_superman


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posted February 04, 2006 05:10 PM

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I don't like rampart, all the other towns have specials, but not them, they are just medicore in all aspects

Well, one aspect that makes rampart better than mediocre is that 5 units out of 7 are very fast. Add to that the fact they usually start in grassland which gives even more speed to their creatures. Also, centaurs belong to top3 lvl1 creatures and dendroids make really good defense! And as you said, grand elves are formidable shooters.
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Evil_Warrior
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posted February 04, 2006 11:49 PM

Not only centaur, Dwarf and Battle Dwarf also have high rank in their level. The special abilitiy of Silver Pegasus and War Unicorn makes Rampart to be one of most effective town.
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GabyStan
GabyStan


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posted February 06, 2006 03:35 PM

Btw, Evil_Warrior, please tell me what is that specialty Silver Pegasus have? I've read about it several month ago, but forgot. Such poor memory...

I could add about Rampart it has the highest Hit Points of all races, even without the buildings for troop bonuses. And they are cheaper than other (cheapest in gold/HP), have good speed and very nice specials. Also very good heroes to chose from.

Plus, I always seem to have problems against Rampart when playing Castle, but this could be also a personal weakness, not a Rampart superiority.
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angelito
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posted February 06, 2006 03:56 PM

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Btw, Evil_Warrior, please tell me what is that specialty Silver Pegasus have? I've read about it several month ago, but forgot. Such poor memory...



All spells the opponent casts, cost 2 spellpoints more.
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Russ
Russ


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blah, blah, blah
posted February 06, 2006 04:25 PM

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All spells the opponent casts, cost 2 spellpoints more.
This reminds me of another advantage Tower has. Mages make spells cost 2 spell points less, which means 2 SP magic arrows and 3 SP mass slows when combined with expert earth magic It'll be very hard to run out of mana on Neela.

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GabyStan
GabyStan


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posted February 06, 2006 04:39 PM
Edited by GabyStan on 6 Feb 2006

Ok Angelito, thanks a lot, hopefully I won't ever forget this one again.

Actually I also like Tower, having so many shooters is always nice and useful. Tactics and Mass Slow with a powerful hero (a shame Tower has none, maybe apart of Neela, as Russ mentioned, and if she gets those she's quite good) is probably the best combo, to make a defensive arrangement of troops around shooters and just hit the enemy from safe distance. Downsides: slow start and very expensive. Not to mention the Naga Bank bug, giving Sulphur instead of Gems.
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Saco-SM
Saco-SM

Tavern Dweller
posted February 06, 2006 05:23 PM

I dont like castle,actually I hate it.If there is castle player in the map.I always attack him first.Their town covered with flags,blue sky,angles,rivers,grassy hills...too positive to be in the battle.Fortress rules!Mighty Gorgon with Death Stare can pretty much kill every 6th-7th level creatures.Getting Hydra Pond is a pain,*sulfur* ?!?
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GabyStan
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posted February 06, 2006 05:53 PM

Hehe, Hydra Pond is one of the easiest level 7 dwellings to build, actually. Although Sulphur tends to be more scarce than any other resource. If you should hate Castle, well, what better reason than needing 10 out of all major resources, which makes it 40 in total (and another 40 for upgrading). Apart of this (high costs), Castle has all the ingredients to stand as one of the best towns of the game.
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System_Error
System_Error

Tavern Dweller
posted February 09, 2006 11:14 PM
Edited by System_Error on 9 Feb 2006

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I don't like rampart, all the other towns have specials, but not them, they are just medicore in all aspects

Well, one aspect that makes rampart better than mediocre is that 5 units out of 7 are very fast. Add to that the fact they usually start in grassland which gives even more speed to their creatures. Also, centaurs belong to top3 lvl1 creatures and dendroids make really good defense! And as you said, grand elves are formidable shooters.

You mean lvl4 and lvl7. Lvl5 are the Dendroids and they are everything but fast. Centaur Captains are in Top2 (or even Top1
True, Halberdiers are a bit tougher but Centaurs are faster, which is I value much more.

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Russ
Russ


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blah, blah, blah
posted February 09, 2006 11:34 PM

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True, Halberdiers are a bit tougher but Centaurs are faster, which is I value much more.
Nope, centaurs are tougher Put like 100 cents vs like 100 halberds and the cents will win. The first strike advantage is better than 2 extra defense points. Wait/hit tactic will kill the halberds. On the normal battlefield speed gives cents an even bigger advantage.

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System_Error
System_Error

Tavern Dweller
posted February 10, 2006 01:35 PM

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Nope, centaurs are tougher Put like 100 cents vs like 100 halberds and the cents will win. The first strike advantage is better than 2 extra defense points. Wait/hit tactic will kill the halberds. On the normal battlefield speed gives cents an even bigger advantage.

I meant if Halberdiers were being constantly under attack (shooters and other units). In other words something like: "Dog pile on the Halberdiers!" They would last a bit longer due to the +2 defense skill. But the Centaurs' speed is indeed a much bigger advantage. On the battlefield they're the most usefull lvl1 creature.

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Russ
Russ


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posted February 10, 2006 03:56 PM

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I meant if Halberdiers were being constantly under attack (shooters and other units).
Actually, they would die to shooters faster as well because of the abovementioned speed Most likely they won't even scratch the shooters because the most of the shooters have speed 6 or more and without any spells they'll get at least 2 range penalty shots plus 1 full damage shot.

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BlackkDeathhh
BlackkDeathhh


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posted January 02, 2007 08:12 PM

I feel weak when I am commanding the armies of these: Inferno, Stronghold, Fortress.

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Fortress_fan
Fortress_fan

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posted January 02, 2007 08:43 PM

I like:

Conflux To put elementals in a town is the best idea I ever heard about. People are complaining about that they are too strong, but I don't think so. They are on pair with Castle and Necropolis, the three strongest towns in the game.

Necropolis Ahh... The necromancers. Sadly, this is a bit before my favourite Gauldoth Half-Dead arrived, so I have to stick with Vorkial, Tanmika, Sandro and Vidomina. I love those Vampire lords (but I hate them in H4, Wenoms rocks!)! And the Dread knights! And Necromancy! The best thing would be to get the Cloak of the undead king so I could raise Powerliches! Mwhahahaha!!! But I guess that would be boring, having 1K Powerliches is very overpowered...

Fortress The most defensive town has one of the best heroes in the game (Tazar). What could be wrong when your units only take 30% of the enemy damage?


I dislike:

Rampart I hate elves, I hate forests, I hate nature. GAH! I just hate this town. Transforming those feminine wood hugging elves to skeletons seems to be the only good use for them. Or what about a powerful Confluxian Armageddon? Let me quote Lord Garithos: "I hate working with these... people" That is just how i fell. Let execute them! Slaughter them and cut of their deformed ears! Burn the forests. Then, I am satisfied.

Inferno AILEN SCUM! Let me again quote Lord Garithos: "A good non-human is a dead non human!" Not only do you pay the highest amount of for the lowest HP of all towns, the creatures also look ugly and are real crapp. And who wants to fight for Evil anyway?

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c0ldshadow
c0ldshadow


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posted January 03, 2007 12:31 AM

i hate ramfart.

the grand elves are overrated in my opinion; they are great for fighting wondering creatures but in big battles vs other heroes i find they die super fast. lightning bolt on elves is a killer. also they suck in hand to hand combat.

the dendroids are too slow and i really find the dwarves and pegasi to be quite bad.
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