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posted November 02, 2008 03:23 PM |
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And then it starts again. Let it go Asheera. For eff sake. lol
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posted November 02, 2008 03:24 PM |
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Somebody please shoot me  
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posted November 02, 2008 03:25 PM |
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Chaotic Neutral is called the "Anarchist" or "Free Spirit" alignment. A character of this alignment is an individualist who follows his or her own heart, shirks rules and traditions. They typically act out of self-interest, but do not specifically enjoy seeing others suffer. Many adventurers are of this alignment.
An unusual subset of Chaotic Neutral is "strongly Chaotic Neutral", describing a character who behaves chaotically to the point of appearing insane. Characters of this type may regularly change their appearance and attitudes for the sake of change, and intentionally disrupt organizations for the sole reason of disrupting a Lawful construct. Characters of this type include the Xaositects from the Planescape setting, and Hennet from the third edition Player's Handbook. In Advanced Dungeons & Dragons, Chaotic Neutral was frequently assumed to refer to this subset.
Captain Jack Sparrow, Al Swearengen from the TV series Deadwood, and Snake Plissken from Escape from New York are verifiably Chaotic Neutral characters.[3] Slaadi represent pure Chaos.
Voila a clean and sound definition of chaotic neutral, now fight over something interesting 
( to lex)
EDIT: you're no fun 
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posted November 02, 2008 03:25 PM |
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Or better yet, not fight at all. 
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posted November 02, 2008 03:26 PM |
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@William: I was writing my post and didn't see your posts
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posted November 02, 2008 03:27 PM |
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Yeah yeah, excuses excuses.
Alright, but don't let it happen again or I'll send a legion of spam to your nation.
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posted November 02, 2008 03:27 PM |
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Yeah, that always a cheap excuse. What's next? Blaming mamga?
(please do )
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posted November 02, 2008 03:28 PM |
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Hey, at least my citizens aren't fat.
And I wouldn't say that a lawful neutral government would be authoritarian. I'd say authoritarianism would be more lawful evil. And how do I, a lawful/true neutral guy, have a chaotic neutral country? Interesting how that works out.
And how would one go about calculating a nation's alignment?
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Heavy industry must go to expensive lengths to dispose of waste, the government is notorious for leaving citizens with almost nothing from their inheritance
That's not anarchic.
And allowing gambling makes your economy stronger, not weaker.
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posted November 02, 2008 03:28 PM |
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I Blame Mamga.
(Seriously, don't you think I would have written @Death at the start of my post otherwise?)
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posted November 02, 2008 03:31 PM |
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And? That doesn't mean the state can't intervene. Again, it's your WRONG interpretation because you have no experience.
Of course the state can intervene if the system is not Chaotic Neutral. Unfortunately, and it is what I said all along, your system doesn't promote Chaotic Neutralness among the citizens. If so, you would let them fend of for themselves (as long as they do not break out of the alignment so to speak). Compulsory is automatic fail here (military, taxes). That's because most of the government's "needs" come from taxes right? Taxes violate Chaotic Neutral and personal freedom (yes personal freedom above all). You don't even let them choose for some things which are personal and don't affect others (such as, compulsory paying for the police to help someone else, or compulsory military service).
Is my point clear now? It seems more towards Lawful Neutral but might actually be either Chaotic Evil (a bit) or True Neutral. It depends.
If you want more details on my point I will best leave it to HCM.
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No, you said my "interpretation". Stop correcting yourself after you realized you said something wrong
If interpretation doesn't come from experience (which means, someone interprets something from his experience obviously) then you are just arguing for the sake of it.
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posted November 02, 2008 03:32 PM |
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What part in "No Quote Wars, Stop it, you are spoiling the fun" Don't you UNDERSTAND????? 
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posted November 02, 2008 03:32 PM |
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Can you drop this?Quote:
Characters of this type may regularly change their appearance and attitudes for the sake of change, and intentionally disrupt organizations for the sole reason of disrupting a Lawful construct.
So much for leaving the others alone
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posted November 02, 2008 03:33 PM |
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Nice post Lexxan, I agree entirely.
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posted November 02, 2008 03:34 PM |
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QUIT REPLYING... Pleeeease???
(ugh, motivating these sloths is like having your teeth pulled)
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posted November 02, 2008 03:34 PM |
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The government is an organizations in itself. Organizations don't allow individualism. A good example is your government which has compulsory stuff. Therefore, it is natural that they want to disrupt such organizations if you force them to do certain "cooperations". Chaotic Neutral are very individualistic. So yes it's exactly what I said.
(so if your people were Chaotic Neutral they would try to disrupt your government )
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posted November 02, 2008 03:36 PM |
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Well, if you all don't like it, then i advise you to not read it, lex and will, it can be interesting at times, maybe you can even like... you know... learn something or some **** like that.
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posted November 02, 2008 03:36 PM |
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And allowing gambling makes your economy stronger, not weaker.
People which gamble are not productive last time I remember
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posted November 02, 2008 03:37 PM |
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people will invest money in casino's which you can tax which gives you more money... At least, that's what I thought.
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posted November 02, 2008 03:38 PM |
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Dagoth, I come to read a thread to read interesting posts, not mindless quote wars which add nothing new to the conversation and just end up as arguing between the people involved. It brings the thread down. I'll read what I want, but I don't particularly enjoy seeing stuff like that, do you? If so, then go to the OSM and just read all the quote wars that went on, you'll have a great time.
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posted November 02, 2008 03:38 PM |
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I have to agree with Dagoth that you two (Will & Lex) don't help at all by spamming this thread continuously. At least my posts were somehow on-topic discussing the nation alignment philosophy.
And sorry Death but what you said in that post is completely wrong, but I will NOT point out what since I'm tired of arguing with you.
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