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TheDeath
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posted November 27, 2008 10:52 PM
Edited by TheDeath at 22:53, 27 Nov 2008.

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So if I stop killers I lower the overall Civil Rights? This game works weird.
Technically, you are "converting" them so yep you don't allow their 'freaky' practices so lower your Civil Rights.

As for the killers, no you don't just stop them, you execute them.

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posted November 27, 2008 10:59 PM

Just as we were discussing about crime I have such an issue
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"Crime And Punishment"

A national forum of police officers, criminologists, philosophers, lawyers, and, of course, yourself, have congregated to discuss what should be done to tackle crime in Skama.

1. "If we're going to make even a dent in the crime ratings we need a police force that is well-trained, and well-equipped to capture lawbreakers," says Chief Constable Emily Frampton. "There are too many violent thugs out there making life miserable for everyone else and by gum I will not rest until every single one is locked up and punished - even if we have to get a little creative with our punishments."

2. "Jails are a waste of good tax pwns if you ask me," says Mohandas Baratay, a sociologist. "The cost of incarcerating someone often far outstrips the damage they caused. And they'll only do it again when they get out - we need to ease off on punishment and focus more on rehabilitation, instituting education programs aimed at turning convicts into better people and ensuring they perform community work."

3. "What a load of bunkum," grumbles Endicott Waldmann, thumping the table. "Simply talking to people doesn't change the fact that they broke the law! There needs to be punishment, or there is no justice! Jail's too good for the miserable scumbags, we should hang the lot of them!"

4. "Can't we just... get rid of them all somehow without killing them?" asks Jack Mabo. "Why not just take them away to some island somewhere were we don't have to deal with them?"

5. "'Ave you considered the possibility, my friend, that we wouldn't need any of this 'ere chinwagging if you didn't punish crimes at all?" chimes in Boyko Plimsoll, casually climbing in through the window. "The cops are a buncha crooked pigs, they cause more 'arm than good. You should get rid of them. Besides, if there ain't any laws against crime, then, TECHNICALLY there wouldn't be any crime either. Am I right?"
What the hell? Where's the "put them to work" option?

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posted November 27, 2008 11:02 PM

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4. "Can't we just... get rid of them all somehow without killing them?" asks Jack Mabo. "Why not just take them away to some island somewhere were we don't have to deal with them?"
Yeah, send them to KD's island.
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posted November 27, 2008 11:10 PM

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So if I stop killers I lower the overall Civil Rights? This game works weird.
This is actually the way it works in RL. In order to quarantee safety you must take away some freedom.
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Mamgaeater
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posted November 28, 2008 01:42 AM

Yay i'm the fourth in the most Pro-Market nations of our region .
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posted November 28, 2008 01:46 AM

Mvassreich is the most pro-market in HC... and yet "private enterprise is illegal". Yeah. Sort that out.
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posted November 28, 2008 01:54 AM
Edited by Mamgaeater at 01:55, 28 Nov 2008.


same in Mamga
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posted November 28, 2008 03:45 AM

NS2: People on World 45, do you have some kind of alliance or something? I was able to move to that island today because of one of the new features that were implemented.
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posted November 28, 2008 02:13 PM

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Mvassreich is the most pro-market in HC... and yet "private enterprise is illegal". Yeah. Sort that out.
And???

It's owned by the government, with good economic freedoms -- doesn't mean it has to be private




New issue:
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We Need Cash, Sharpish, Say Librarians
The Issue


Ailing libraries have appealed to the government for a much-needed injection of funds.

The Debate

1. "Our libraries are in a dreadful state," says distressed librarian, George W. Wall. "This year we had to cancel our subscription to 'Playboy' and over half of our shelves are stacked with pamphlets from the Pizzeria across the road. We need more books and better standards. If there were more perks in this job then maybe we'd get some decent employees! If it needs a whole lot of government funds to pay for it all then so be it!"

2. "Now hold it right there!" says manager of the local MEGA-BOOKS store, Colin Barry. "I employ twenty-four people and we are dependent upon people paying us money to buy books, magazines and newspapers from my store. How can you even think about giving our tax pwns to these people so they can put us out of business? 'Course poor people won't be able to afford our wares but they'd only use them for fires or somethin'. Let our libraries die."

3. "I'm all for giving our libraries more money," says Education Minister, Pete Wall. "But we certainly shouldn't just let them spend it however they please. We need an elected board to oversee all purchases and acquisitions made by our library system, promoting educational literature and keeping out smut. That way we can keep nudity out of the hands of children. We can make sure none of those political satires and newspapers that insult our government affect the weak-minded amongst us too. Then our libraries will be something to be proud of."

4. "Great Scot! I've got it!" exclaims Bianca Bush, your science advisor. "Why do we need these brick and mortar buildings anyway? Let's just scan all these books, newspapers and magazines onto the internet and then we can fire all those expensive librarians with their pensions and healthcare benefits. Think of the money we'd save if we didn't have to print everything! Sure it'll be tough on the librarians and those with no computers but hey, this is the future and they are the past."
Regarding option #3, he really had to add that didn't he?

It'll make me look too much like a dictator dammit
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Asheera
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posted November 28, 2008 02:15 PM

Somehow my Civil Rights lowered because I let the people defend themselves from thieves and burglars... LOL
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posted November 28, 2008 02:19 PM

Joonas said already before:
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This is actually the way it works in RL. In order to quarantee safety you must take away some freedom.


Besides, thieves don't kill. When you kill them for something less, then their "rights" decreased

it's the way it is.
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posted November 28, 2008 02:34 PM

But isn't a society where everyone does everything he wants (including killing) complete anarchy with the most Civil Rights possible? Of course, I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm just trying to prove my point.
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posted November 28, 2008 02:39 PM

What about the right to live?
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Asheera
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posted November 28, 2008 02:47 PM

Nobody grants it to you. So technically, there's no such thing. It's more like an oppression for the attacker(s)
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posted November 28, 2008 02:54 PM

so a government that kills whoever they please has "Superb" Civil Rights? since nobody granted it to you, they don't take it away either? (this means, it's "neutral" in the matter, the government I mean)

your reasoning here is flawed
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posted November 28, 2008 03:10 PM

Ive moved my other nation (Dark Dread) to W45 now.
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posted November 28, 2008 03:23 PM

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It's owned by the government, with good economic freedoms -- doesn't mean it has to be private
You don't have much of a market if everything is controlled by the government.
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posted November 28, 2008 03:30 PM

How can I improve my rank? I'm ranked as a member but i wanna be what everyone else is. when i try to nominate myself for the other rank it says that there are no ranks to nominate myself for.
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posted November 28, 2008 03:33 PM

Ouch sorry, Celfious added you as a Member (must have been a mistake) I'll nominate you now.
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posted November 28, 2008 03:40 PM

Thanks Asheera. And don't be sorry.
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