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EldGiffen
EldGiffen


Adventuring Hero
NobleGriffen Master Of Birds
posted July 12, 2006 07:09 PM
Edited by EldGiffen at 21:35, 14 Jul 2006.

Help! Diablo Experts all Around!

Im stuck in diablo, the first one to be exact. I just cant seem to pass the level Ill tell you all my stats and iteams and lv of the labyrinath and the creatures.....then you can tell me what to do.

Warrior Lv22           Gold 13891

Strenght 74            Armor Class 55
Magic 57               To Hit 68%
Dexerity 36            Damage 22-31
Vitality 57            Resistance Magic 10%
Life 220               Resistance Fire 10%
Mana 74                Resistance Lightining 30%

Iteams{Everything except potions and scrolls}
Harquins Crest,Glourious Mail of Vim,Sheild of eagle,Bastard Sword,Optic Amulet,Staff of Flame Wave,Ring of Truth and ring of Enagement.
Spells
Repair Iteams,Firebolt,Charged Bolt,Holy Bolt,Healing,Inferno,Phasing,Guardian,Firewall,Town Portal,Mana Sheild
Stone Curse and Telekensis.
Labayrinth Lv14 Creatures: Blood Knights,Hell Spwan and some other thing that spits fire...
Quests Lachdanna
thats about it.... post if you can help..... thanks

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Gom_Jabbar
Gom_Jabbar


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Revealer of Truth
posted July 12, 2006 08:54 PM
Edited by Gom_Jabbar at 21:03, 12 Jul 2006.

Infact this the "Other Games Exist Too" part of HC so your question is not so off topic

Anyway.. I see your talking about Diablo I !!! Isn't that too old. I mean, I played the game and liked it very much, but Diablo II is much better.
My advice: the hit and run tactic alwayes worked for me; try to lure them using a bow and split them into smaller groups. I' a little surprised though, since you are level 22 and they are lvl 14. You should be able to kill them easely.
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EldGiffen
EldGiffen


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NobleGriffen Master Of Birds
posted July 12, 2006 10:23 PM

No i said that the labyrainth is lv 14 and im always fighting Blood Knights and Hell Spwans... ill try the hit and run tatic anyways, Thanxs for the advice

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Guitarguy
Guitarguy


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Rockoon.
posted July 12, 2006 11:33 PM

Too bad William isn't here yet. He's so enthused about Diablo being a great game that he's way too lazy to buy the sequel. There's always a catch.

-Guitarguy
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russ
russ


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blah, blah, blah
posted July 13, 2006 05:21 PM
Edited by russ at 17:26, 13 Jul 2006.

Griffen, your tohit % is too low. You want a sword with as many accuracy bonuses as possible. As a matter of fact, forget about any bonuses on your sword aside from accuracy and damage. Accuracy should be the most important one. Your dex is really low - you need some items that increase your dex.
This takes care of the first part: offense. Once you have about 90-95% chance to hit something, you'll easily kill them since they will keep on getting hit and won't be able to fight back or walk away. Keep in mind that the %chance to hit displayed is a chance to hit a monster that has the same level as you do. Harder monsters like the ones you are talking about will be harder to hit! So, you should aim at 95% displayed ToHit rate.

Now - on to defense. Have you ever had moments when 2-3 monsters swarm around you and keep hitting you? And you can't attack or hit them back because you keep getting hit?
Forget about any bonuses on your chest armor piece except for AR and AR bonuses. Fast/Fastest hit recovery should be your 2-nd priority, but NOT at the expense of AR. The hit recovery is a very nice thing to have on some other item.
Your resistances are more than 0, which is great. If one of them was 0, you would keep on getting bounced back by magic like you do by melee hits, which is a guaranteed death.

Other bonuses:
1) DEX <- extremely important for a warrior. After you get the str required to wear the best armor (I think it is 90 str), you need to put most of your points into DEX. Dex adds to your ToHit % as well as your AR. You want a lot of DEX bonuses on your items.
2) +Life or Vitality <- this one is obvious since you don't want to get killed too easily You want some of that on your items.
3) STR <- the third most important stat, but only after the above 2

MAGIC?????!!!! <-- WHY do you have magic on your WARRIOR??? A warrior is NOT supposed to be casting spells. The only times you should cast spells are when you are trying to single the monsters out.
You can send lightning into a new room full of creeps to make some of them come out, you can send in a golem, you can cast a guardian. That is IT. You should NOT try to reply on magic as a warrior.

General strategy:
1) "DIVIDE AND CONQUER"
2) Dodge magic attacks if you can. Walk up to a magic monster in zigzags, try to get them into a corner if they keep walking away. If you do manage to hit them before they start walking away, your 90-95% chance to hit will ensure that they won't cast anything or walk until they die

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EldGiffen
EldGiffen


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NobleGriffen Master Of Birds
posted July 14, 2006 01:55 AM
Edited by EldGiffen at 01:57, 14 Jul 2006.

Thanks

Thanks for your advice im up to lv 15 labyrinth and i have 70% to hit with 41 Dex, and im lv 23......yes. also were in the world am i gonna find the Golden Elixer for the quest Lachdanna
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william
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LummoxLewis
posted July 14, 2006 02:23 AM

hmm this problem should be easy.
I have versed Hell Spawns and they are very easy.
Just either if you have teleport spell, from the book not the scrool then you should be able to accomplish this quite easily.
Teleport being my favourite spell, you should teleport away from them, get out your bow, then strike them a few times, taking down alot or some.
Then when they come near you or attempt to hit you, teleport away again and do the same thing, thus making them confused with you going around all the time.
This should help you out.
I know that level can be difficult, as here are alot of Hell spawns and these Death Knights cant remember the name exactly.
They get in very large numbers, and can be quite annoying.
I alo suggest that when you defeat Lazarus, that you cast town portal, stock up on items, and then go back and try to defeat Diablo.
I know that Hell is very hard place, as monsters come from every direction and its often confusing and hard, but with perserverance you will make it through.
If this helps just yeah comment on it.

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russ
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blah, blah, blah
posted July 14, 2006 06:26 PM
Edited by russ at 18:30, 14 Jul 2006.

Quote:
Teleport being my favourite spell, you should teleport away from them, get out your bow, then strike them a few times, taking down alot or some.
Why would you want to use a bow as a warrior? Why not just make a rogue? I kind of fail to understand this "advice".
If you have a warrior in a game like Diablo, you stick to being a warrior. My warrior had warrior's gear and warrior's stats and I've never had problems in single player. When I played online I realized that melee sucks in general, so I started a mage (this is THE ONLY class that will ever need to do something that he was not designed to do because on the hardest difficulty there is one monster that is immune to all magic, so you need to kill those with a weapon).

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EldGiffen
EldGiffen


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NobleGriffen Master Of Birds
posted July 14, 2006 06:38 PM

Thanks

Yes this advice has helped now im up to lv16 labtyrinth and i have deafeated Lazuras{he was easy} im lv 24 with the Maul Of Gore.With it i can hit 38-52 damage. Now is Diablo hard to defeat...

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russ
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blah, blah, blah
posted July 14, 2006 09:54 PM
Edited by russ at 21:56, 14 Jul 2006.

A knockback weapon with really high accuracy will rape Diablo, you'll be saying "WTF???" after you realize just how easy he is. The damage is not THAT important, just make sure to have knockback and very very high ToHit %. So, once you find a decent knockback weapon, keep it in your inventory for Diablo.

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EldGiffen
EldGiffen


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NobleGriffen Master Of Birds
posted July 14, 2006 10:58 PM

Dexertity Up!

Well so far i went from 68% to hit 72% to hit
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william
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LummoxLewis
posted July 14, 2006 11:03 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Teleport being my favourite spell, you should teleport away from them, get out your bow, then strike them a few times, taking down alot or some.
Why would you want to use a bow as a warrior? Why not just make a rogue? I kind of fail to understand this "advice".
If you have a warrior in a game like Diablo, you stick to being a warrior. My warrior had warrior's gear and warrior's stats and I've never had problems in single player. When I played online I realized that melee sucks in general, so I started a mage (this is THE ONLY class that will ever need to do something that he was not designed to do because on the hardest difficulty there is one monster that is immune to all magic, so you need to kill those with a weapon).


No not really.
Having a warrior that knows spells is actually very useful.
If you want a very powerful person, try and get your strength, dex, and magic up, you will have a very all-round character and having or being good in everything is very useful.
My bow technique works everytime, bow + teleport spell I mean
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russ
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blah, blah, blah
posted July 14, 2006 11:30 PM
Edited by russ at 23:31, 14 Jul 2006.

William, if you are such a pro with such awesome tactics, then would you mind answering a few easy Diablo - related questions?

1) What is the best equipment for a high level mage? How can you get it?
2) What is a bug (or feature?) that makes high level mages overpowered?
3) What is the best weapon for a warrior and how can one get it?

(All of those questions assume that you don't do any hacking or hex editing)

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william
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LummoxLewis
posted July 14, 2006 11:38 PM

Quote:
William, if you are such a pro with such awesome tactics, then would you mind answering a few easy Diablo - related questions?

1) What is the best equipment for a high level mage? How can you get it?
2) What is a bug (or feature?) that makes high level mages overpowered?
3) What is the best weapon for a warrior and how can one get it?

(All of those questions assume that you don't do any hacking or hex editing)


Firstly I havent said that im a pro at this game, im allright at it, but wouldnt say pro.
Im just stating the tactics which I think would be best for eldgriffen or whatever.
I get whatever weapons I want, So there isnt any need to question me at all.
For Mages I like whatever armour, I personnaly like usually chain mail or plate mail, as they provide good armour, plate mail with special properties is a must, because special properties is always good.
I always make mages either carry swords, or just make them use spells all the time and that means I must heavily rely on mana potions, or sometimes rejuvination potions, which are good aswell.

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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted July 27, 2006 07:15 PM
Edited by JoonasTo at 19:17, 27 Jul 2006.

For Russ
I have been playing diablo as long as it has been out there. So here comes.

Question 1. Search, search, search... or cheat(I don't prefer it though, kinda kills the fun)
-awesome/godly plate mail with all-up or magic/mana-up, maybe whale(naj's light plate)
-plentiful/bountiful staff of apocalypse[almost impossible to find](archangels staff with all-up or magic/mana-up)
-or a stormshield and a king's sword of haste or sorcery(dreamslayer,not sure about the name anymore, but mace with 2+ all spells)
-some helm,hat or something...with all-up or magic/mana-up, maybe res-all
-rings and necklace with res-all and all-up or magic-mana-up

2. They can make over 2000 damage...(mine does...or did when i played)

3.Kings sword of haste. Search, search, search... or cheat(I don't prefer it though, kinda kills the fun)


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russ
russ


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blah, blah, blah
posted July 27, 2006 09:04 PM

Quote:
For Russ
I have been playing diablo as long as it has been out there. So here comes.
My question was for William, because he just wouldn't stop arguing with every one of my strategy posts, but since you seem to like the questions as well, I'll tell you if you are correct:

Question 1. Search, search, search... or cheat(I don't prefer it though, kinda kills the fun)
Pay more attention next time: "(All of those questions assume that you don't do any hacking or hex editing)"
-awesome/godly plate mail with all-up or magic/mana-up, maybe whale
No. As for whale - definitely not
(naj's light plate)
Yes
-plentiful/bountiful staff of apocalypse[almost impossible to find]
No, apocalypse staves have VERY few charges to be anywhere near useful, not to mention they are useless in PvP.
(archangels staff with all-up or magic/mana-up)
Yes
-or a stormshield and a king's sword of haste or sorcery
No
(dreamslayer,not sure about the name anymore, but mace with 2+ all spells)
It is called Dreamflange and I think it only adds +1, but that answer is a yes too
-some helm,hat or something...with all-up or magic/mana-up, maybe res-all
No, the helm/hat was actually the most difficult part of this question (and "how to get it" part was related to it), the rest was just details
-rings and necklace with res-all and all-up or magic-mana-up
Yes

2. They can make over 2000 damage...(mine does...or did when i played)
No. That was intended up to a certain extent. That alone did not make mages overpowered, so you have yet to answer this one

3.Kings sword of haste.
Yes
Search, search, search...
You need to provide more details here

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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted July 27, 2006 09:45 PM
Edited by JoonasTo at 21:48, 27 Jul 2006.

Sorry russ. Hat is definetly thinking cap in caves atleast nightmare difficulty must be brought up in durability with shrines.

dreamflange from lazarus atleast nightmare.

plates and rings and KSoH from hell in hell and from those über blood knights from first and last levels of hell.

Staves i bought

And the mana shields damage reduction ability which makes their thousands of hitpoints with it to last even further.

whale and other options will do cause finding is very hard so there must be options
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russ
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blah, blah, blah
posted July 27, 2006 09:55 PM

Sorry russ. Hat is definetly thinking cap in caves atleast nightmare difficulty must be brought up in durability with shrines.
Yep, that's the answer I was looking for
dreamflange from lazarus atleast nightmare.
Whatever, dreamflange is really common. The "how to get it?" part was only related to the Tinking Cap - not everyone knows about the shrines

KSoH from hell in hell and from those über blood knights from first and last levels of hell.
No.

And the mana shields damage reduction ability which makes their thousands of hitpoints with it to last even further.
No. Same as with the damage - that alone does not make mages overpowered.

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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted July 28, 2006 07:55 AM
Edited by JoonasTo at 08:00, 28 Jul 2006.

I give up russ so tell me what is that makes them overpowerved?

Yes Apocalypse staves do have very few charges thats why it must be plentiful or bountiful and a good one.And it is useles in PvP but it can kill advocates in hell being the only damage spell that works with them. Normally I use Stone Curse and golem and just hack 'em to pieces.

And I did find KoH from hell in hell from that level 16 superbloodknight

Plates i usually buy, if I see them of course, I did find one from a barrel in hell


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russ
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posted July 28, 2006 04:36 PM

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I give up russ so tell me what is that makes them overpowerved?
If you have less life than the damage that is dealt to you, then... you don't get into the hit recovery! Only damaged! Which means you can keep walking or casting your 2000 dmg fireballs as you get hit! You could get low life by hitting the -life shrines. My mage had like 10 life, for example.
If that bug wasn't there, mages would be a lot more difficult to play because of very high hit recovery time. So, if a warrior or rogue with 95% chance to hit started hitting you, you would just stand there and take the punishment until you either "catch" that 5%, or until you run out of mana pots and die. It mage mages so overpowered that I was able to clean all of hell in less than 5 mins with cursed items! (i.e. the items that give you -stats, -mana, etc)
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Yes Apocalypse staves do have very few charges thats why it must be plentiful or bountiful and a good one.And it is useles in PvP but it can kill advocates in hell being the only damage spell that works with them. Normally I use Stone Curse and golem and just hack 'em to pieces.
It's been awhile, but as far as I remember, even with the biggest mods you couldn't have more than about 25 charges. Btw, I never knew that this spell worked on them I just used my good ol' KSOH (well, I *think* it was KSOH )
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And I did find KoH from hell in hell from that level 16 superbloodknight
Hmm... I think the sword I was talking about was one of the few items only available from Wirt, but I may be wrong. Or maybe the sword I was talking about wasn't KSOH? Or maybe it was only available from Wirt for low level players? It was a while

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