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posted October 28, 2008 11:15 AM

B1 is extremely easy, you should do it with your eyes closed They threw me out of english lessons (C1) because they told me.. I am too good -_- I begged them to let me attend - the only alternative was french which I tried to learn for 3 years and never learned anything except life-savers like "can I go to the toilet" or "I do not understand what are you talking about" (the one used the most).

Oh, and of course "I forgot my homework"

Sorry for slight OT.
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posted October 28, 2008 11:30 AM

Ok, may not want to take my word on these, but here goes.

1.c) The shopkeeper gave them the wrong change

2.
c) Do you have any fresh pretzels?

3.
a) I am sorry. I have no time at present.

4.
c) John is saving all his money for a new car.

5.
c) I don't have a car of my own.

6.
c) We are very sad. A good friend of Tom's has just died.

7.
c) A pension is money the state gives to people when they retire.


a) It (snow) is snowing all day. I wonder when it will stop.

Would have used It has been snowing.

b) We (have) had three major snowstorms so far this winter. I wonder how many more we are in for.

Sounds correct to me.

c) It's 10 pm. I (study) am studying for two hours now and probably won't finish till midnight.

I have been studying

d) I (write) wrote to, three times, but haven't recieved a reply yet.

Possibly -  I have written to..

e) I (live) am living here since last march.

I have been living here

f) John (do) does a lot of heavy drinking lately. His wife is going out with other man (Shouldn't it be "men"?)

Maybe - has been doing...  and you are right it should be men.

g) The telephone (ring) was ringing four times in the last half-hour, and each time it has been for my room-mate. It (be) was really very annoying, because I (try) am trying to finish an essay which I have to hand in tomorrow.

rang? has rung? meh no clue to be honest.

h) The little boy is covered with dirt from head to foot because he (play) played in the mud.

was playing?

i) So you (be, posted) will be (or: have been...not sure which tense is right here..)posted to Jakarta. You should enjoy your time there. I (live) used to live there for two years when I was young, and know the place quite well.

have been, used to live.  (maybe)


j) I (learn) have learned Latin at school, but (forget) forgot just about everything now.

Mayhap - did learn, have forgotten

k) Fred (just, ring) was just ringing. He said he'd be late for work. He (wait) is waiting for a bus for almost an hour now, but the bus (not, run) does not run properly yet because of last night's storm, and he (not, know) doesn't know when the next one will come.

All I have to say is ????????


l) I (wait) was waiting for my wife in front of the theatre for alomst an hour last night. When she still (not, come) did not come  by the end of the first act, I (leave) left her ticket for her at the box office and (go) went on in alone.

sounds correct

m) Where (you, be) have you been? I (wait) am waiting here since seven!

First one is correct -  I have been waiting here since seven!

n) This is the first time I (drink) am drinking tequila. It (taste) tastes disgusting! in fact, it (remind) reminds me of nothing more than nasty medicine!

drank?  Correct (tastes), correct (reminds).

o) Henry (never, be) has never been to Andorra. He (not, miss) did not miss an awful lot.

Correct

Will let some others correct me if wrong, and give some of the other answers.  My grammar is horrible, however, so again may be way off.
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posted October 28, 2008 11:37 AM

For me it would be:

2.
c) Do you have any fresh pretzels?
(Always any in a question)

3.
c) I am sorry, but I haven't any time right now.
(It's better not to assume they forgot something, besides c) sounds right)

5.
c) I don't have a car of my own.
(b) implies that you own a car but don't have it - which makes little sense - while c) that you don't have a car, it's an expression)

6.
c) We are very sad. A good friend of Tom's has just died.
(I think a) should have a good friend of ours and b) of Tom's than just Tom)

Please use the correct tense:

a) It (snow) has been snowing all day. I wonder when it will stop.
For continuous tense.

c) It's 10 pm. I (study) have been studying for two hours now and probably won't finish till midnight.
Am studying is probably also right, not sure. Have been certainly is though.

g) The telephone (ring) rang four times in the last half-hour, and each time it has been for my room-mate.

i) So you (be, posted) are posted to Jakarta. You should enjoy your time there.

j) I (learn) learnt Latin at school, but (forget) have forgotten just about everything now.

k) Fred (just, ring) just rang. He said he'd be late for work. He (wait) has been waiting for a bus for almost an hour now...

m) I (wait) was waiting here since seven!

n) This is the first time I (drink) drink tequila.

r) I know some people who (learn) have learnt German for years and still (not, speak) do not speak it properly.
Learnt is for British, learned American.

u) It (rain) is raining very heavily outside, and I (lose) lost mine. I (will, ask) would ask james, but...
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posted October 28, 2008 12:49 PM

A friend of Tom's is correct??
Wow...would never have thought that.
If it would be "One of Tom's friends", it would sound fine to me, but the other sounds just strange...

In german, you could use both variations though:

A friend of us = Ein Freund von uns
A friend of ours = Einer unserer Freunde
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posted October 28, 2008 12:54 PM

Quote:
3.
c) I am sorry, but I haven't any time right now.
(It's better not to assume they forgot something, besides c) sounds right)
I thought the phrase "to have" is used with "got" always. That's why I thought this sentence is wrong.
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posted October 28, 2008 01:25 PM

Quote:
I thought the phrase "to have" is used with "got" always. That's why I thought this sentence is wrong.
Yes you're right it sounds weird to me without "got" as well
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posted October 28, 2008 01:29 PM

It often goes in pair but then there's 'I have no time for this'.
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posted October 28, 2008 01:36 PM

I have cancer...I have got cancer?
I have no time...I have got no time?
I have to be perfect...I've got to be perfect (song)
I have no chance ...I've got no chance.

I am confused

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posted October 28, 2008 01:41 PM
Edited by TitaniumAlloy at 00:14, 29 Oct 2008.

They all seem fine to me.

edit:
in reference to the post directly above ^^
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posted October 28, 2008 01:42 PM

I have cancer...I have got cancer? The second one doesn't sound right IMO

I have no time...I have got no time? The first one

I have to be perfect...I've got to be perfect (song) Both work AFAIK

I have no chance ...I've got no chance. Both work AFAIK
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posted October 28, 2008 02:18 PM

Quote:
c) It's 10 pm. I (study) have been studying for two hours now and probably won't finish till midnight.
Am studying is probably also right, not sure. Have been certainly is though.
The red part is correct, but "I am studying for two hours ..." is wrong.

l) I (wait) was waiting waited for my wife in front of the theatre for alomst an hour last night. When she still (not, come) had did not come  by the end of the first act, I (leave) left her ticket for her at the box office and (go) went on in alone.

m) Where (you, be) have you been? I (wait) have been am waiting here since seven!
I'm not sure whether Elvin's suggestion (was waiting) is correct.
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posted October 28, 2008 04:12 PM bonus applied by angelito on 28 Oct 2008.

@Angelito

A lot of these don't have one correct answer.  In addition, some of the choices are a little less likely to be used, but are not strictly grammatically incorrect.  

1.
a) The shopkeeper gave to them the wrong change
b) The shopkeeper gave the wrong change to them
c) The shopkeeper gave them the wrong change

Choice A is rather awkward but is not, strictly speaking incorrect.  "them" is an indirect object here and doesn't technically need the preposition "to".  Thus you are correct that choice C would be the most typical one that youwould hear.  Choice B is a satisfactory alternative; in this case the indirect object ("them") is located at the end of the sentence and so it would be appropriate here to use the preposition "to".  In fact, B and C are equally "correct", and can be used interchangably.  Choice A, while I don't think strictly incorrect, is somewhat awkward because the prepositional phrase is between the direct object ("wrong change") and the verb, which makes it sound a little strange.  You'd sound like a foreigner if you used Choice A.

2.
a) Have you some fresh pretzels?
b) Do you have some fresh pretzels?
c) Do you have any fresh pretzels?

Again a case of 3 choices that are all grammatically correct, and again choice A is the one that would be most strange-sounding.  When you pose a question, the verb usually takes the first position, but "have" is something of a helping verb, so typically you don't hear people put the verb "to have" as the first position in a question.  It's a bit archaic to do so, but not technially wrong.  Choices B and C are both technically correct but have slightly different meanings.  Choice B is essentially asking if you have more than one fresh pretzel.  Choice C is asking whether you have at least one fresh pretzel.  In most circumstances you'd probably ask C, because if you were going to a pretzel seller, you'd be most interest to know if he has any pretzels at all he could sell you.  Choice B could technically be used, but you'd be more likely to use this construction if you were going to ask someone if they had, for example, "some pencils" you could borrow.  So while you're not wrong to select B from a grammatical standpoint, from the context of the sentence, C is usually the more appropriate choice.

3.
a) I am sorry. I have no time at present.
b) I am sorry, but I don't have any time right. (I'm sure here is the word "now" missing at the end)
c) I am sorry, but I haven't any time right now.

You are right the "now" should be at the end of Choice B.  For sort of the same reason as describe above, we can eliminate Choice C as archaic.  You'd hear a phrase like this in a book by Jane Austin, but not in modern english, although again it's not technically incorrect.  Choice A is pretty formal and stilted, and the prepositional phrase "at present" isn't really formally correct.  Choice B is the most appropriate, casual english.  

4.
a) John saves money for a new car now
b) John saves all his money for a new car at present
c) John is saving all his money for a new car.

In choice A, the adverb "now" is most properly inserted after the direct object "money". I.e. "John saves money now for a new car."  Although here, the use of "now" is somewhat superfluous because the use of present tense implies that the action is happening at the present moment anyway.  The only reason you would use "now" is to emphasize that it didn't happen before and that he's just started doing it, or that he's elected to save money now rather than in the future.  Choice B has the same problem as Choice A in #3.  I guess choice C is the best option of the three, but the simplest choice if the meaning of "C" is desired would be "John saves money for a new car."

5.
a) I don't have an own car.
b) I don't have my own car.
c) I don't have a car of my own.

Choice A is just wrong.  "own" is possessive and needs to be used with a possessive pronoun, not an article like "an".  Choice C is sort of a borderline case that you would hear colloquially, but choice B is the most grammatically correct.

6.
a) We are very sad. A good friend of us has just died.
b) We are very sad. A good friend of Tom has just died. (Could be correct too in my eyes..no difference for me)
c) We are very sad. A good friend of Tom's has just died.

A is wrong.  "Us" not possessive, which is required here.  If you replaced "us" with "ours", it would at least be serviceable.  It might be hard to distinguish between B and C (which don't have the same meaning as A in any case, highlighting that these aren't good questions), but again realize that you need a  possessive word here, and "Tom" is not possessive. So C is the most correct answer, but it's still a pretty awkward construction. This is another case where the best answer is not up there.  This would be "We are very sad. Tom's good friend has just died." (B and C) or "We are very sad.  Our good friend hsa just died."  No need for the awkward prepositional phrase here.  A direct construction is best.

7.
a) A pension is a cheap hotel where students, for example, can stay.
b) A pension is money the state gives to people who are too ill to work.
c) A pension is money the state gives to people when they retire.

A is wrong because that's not what pension means.  Ditto for choice B.  So just on definition alone, C is the best answer.  However, a better grammatical structure for C would be "A pension is money that the state gives to people when they retire."

Please use the correct tense:

a) It (snow) is snowing all day. I wonder when it will stop.

The present perfect tense "has snowed" is correct.  

b) We (have) had three major snowstorms so far this winter. I wonder how many more we are in for.

"have had"

c) It's 10 pm. I (study) am studying for two hours now and probably won't finish till midnight.

Present perfect again.  "have studied"

d) I (write) wrote to, three times, but haven't recieved a reply yet.

Here you could use "wrote" or "had written", depending on what you want to emphasize.

e) I (live) am living here since last march.

Present perfect again.. "have lived".

f) John (do) does a lot of heavy drinking lately. His wife is going out with other man (Shouldn't it be "men"?)

There's a lot of options here, depending on what you want to emphasize, but given the second sentence present tense construction, a present tense in the first sentence is best for consistency.  But if you're going to use the present tense "does", it's better just to use "drinks" as your verb.  I.e.,

John drinks heavily a lot lately.  His wife is going out with other men.

But this isn't an option, so I guess you are "correct".


g) The telephone (ring) was ringing four times in the last half-hour, and each time it has been for my room-mate. It (be) was really very annoying, because I (try) am trying to finish an essay which I have to hand in tomorrow.

You want to have a consistent tense throughout. They use the present perfect "has been" in the second half of the first sentence, so you should use something consistent throughout.  I.e., "has rung" in the first sentence and "has been" and "have been trying".  Note that you could use a different tense if emphasize something different, but you'd have to change the "has been" in the first sentence to do this.

h) The little boy is covered with dirt from head to foot because he (play) played in the mud.

Yes, "played" is fine.  "has been playing", "had played" or "was playing" are equally correct, depending on what you want to emphasize.  E.g., "had played" means that the child played in the mud in the past, but isn't doing it any more.  "has been playing" would mean that the child was playing in the mud in the past, and is still playing in the mud.  It all depends on what you really want to say; neither option is more correct than another without some context.

i) So you (be, posted) will be (or: have been...not sure which tense is right here..)posted to Jakarta. You should enjoy your time there. I (live) used to live there for two years when I was young, and know the place quite well.

"will be" is correct for part one.  "Lived" is best for part 2. Your "used to live" is ok, but you're adding extra verbs, which I don't think they wanted you to do.

j) I (learn) have learned Latin at school, but (forget) forgot just about everything now.

Again many options.  The first that comes to mind is "learned" and "have forgotten".  "Have learned" is not correct because that would imply that you are still learning it, which is clearly not the case.  "Forgot" is not really good because of the word "now"; using "forgot" in this case would sort of imply that it just happened.  "Have forgotten" is better because it implies a gradual process that is still going on.

k) Fred (just, ring) was just ringing. He said he'd be late for work. He (wait) is waiting for a bus for almost an hour now, but the bus (not, run) does not run properly yet because of last night's storm, and he (not, know) doesn't know when the next one will come.

"Just rang" is better as it implies a single event that is over.  Present perfect "has been waiting" is the best answer for the next part, implying that he is still waiting at the present time. "isn't running" is good for the next part.  And "doesn't know" is the correct answer for the last part.

Fred just rang.  He said he'd be late for work.  He has been waiting for a bus for almost an hour now, but the bus isn't running properly yet because of last night's storm, and he doesn't know when the next one will come.


l) I (wait) was waiting for my wife in front of the theatre for alomst an hour last night. When she still (not, come) did not come  by the end of the first act, I (leave) left her ticket for her at the box office and (go) went on in alone.

"waited" is the better choice for the first one, given the following context.  The rest you have are correct.

m) Where (you, be) have you been? I (wait) am waiting here since seven!

"have you been" is correct.  "have waited" or "have been waiting" is the appropriate choice for the second part.

n) This is the first time I (drink) am drinking tequila. It (taste) tastes disgusting! in fact, it (remind) reminds me of nothing more than nasty medicine!

"have drunk" [i like "have tried"; "to drink" is a difficult verb that follows bizarre rules], "tastes", "reminds"

o) Henry (never, be) has never been to Andorra. He (not, miss) did not miss an awful lot.

"has never been", "has not missed"

p) I (be) was in Sardinia last May. (you, ever, be) Have you ever been there? The nuraghi (plural) (be) were interesting, but a 5000-year-old stone altar on a cliff overlooking a rift valley (impress) impressed me most of all.

Your choices are correct.

q) When I (arrive) arrived on the scene last night, the church (still, burn) was still burning. It (stand) stood next to the royal palace since about 1300, but by the time I (leave) left, there was nothing left of it.

"arrived", "was still", "had stood", "left"/"had left"

r) I know some people who (learn) learned German for years and still (not, speak) do not speak it properly.

Here it depends on what exactly you want to say.  There are a number of correct combinations.  

s) I am glad I (not, have) do not have to learn it.

Yes.  But "did not have" or "will not have" also work, depending on what you want to say.

t) (you, have) Do you have an umbrella you can lend me?  It (rain) is raining very heavily outside, and I (lose) lost mine. I (will, ask) wanted to ask james, but he
(still, have) is still having breakfast and I (not, want) did not want to disturb him.

"Do you have", "is raining", "lost"/"have lost", "would ask"/"would have asked" [to want is a different verb than "will"], "is still having", "do not want"/"did not want".  Couple of combinations work in the last sentence.

Did those rather quickly.  Hopefully I didn't screw them up.
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posted October 28, 2008 06:57 PM

Even if it may look a bit strange because your post was a help for MY questions, I had to hand out a +QP for this very helpfull and detailed reply. Really helped me a lot.

I realized how much I forgot/have to learn again before I consider visiting the States...lol


Do you have any further explanations refering to my "have" or "have got" problem?
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posted October 28, 2008 08:31 PM

I wish to ask a little question.

What is the relation between "commercial" and "advertisement"? I know they are related words, but do they mean exactely the same thing?
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posted October 28, 2008 08:36 PM

Regarding word meanings you can use The Free Dictionary
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posted October 28, 2008 08:45 PM
Edited by TheDeath at 20:46, 28 Oct 2008.

If you don't like wiki stuff I prefer Dictionary.com
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posted October 28, 2008 10:16 PM

Thanks for the star.  I looked down at my watch and couldn't believe how long I spent typing that up.

Quote:
Do you have any further explanations refering to my "have" or "have got" problem?

Both are formally correct in any case where "to have" is being used as "to have possession of", though to be honest I don't like the phrase "have got".  I don't really see the need for the "got".  It seems superfluous.  

The main reason you use "have got" is because "have got" can only be used for the possessive meaning of "have".  Thus, when "got" is used, there can be no confusion over the meaning of "have".  

Note that you can't use the "got" in past tense or future tense.  I.e., "I had got cancer." isn't right (at least, not for the same meaning as the present case above).

The only one of the above choices you list that isn't really correct is "I have got to be perfect".  "Have" in this case is a helping verb for the infinitive "to be", not the possessive verb "to have" ("to possess").  Thus it is technically incorrect to use "got" in this case.  Nevertheless, a lot of people say it anyway like this, so it sounds correct and natural to most people.

You might want to check thisout.
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posted October 29, 2008 09:25 AM
Edited by Doomforge at 09:26, 29 Oct 2008.

I also have to thank you cor. That was very enlightening, especially since I don't know the rules myself, I just use the tense that seems right (and fortunately, after reading countless books, my tense predicting skills are pretty decent )
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posted December 09, 2008 03:57 PM

I'm just wondering about this one:

Which form is correct: blow something up OR blow up something?
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Edited by radar at 16:00, 09 Dec 2008.

I have a strong feeling the first one sounds better.

But that's only me
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