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posted July 12, 2009 12:29 AM |
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I have no idea what white collar and blue collar refer to...
Does yellow collar exist as well? (these words are used as adjectives)
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posted July 12, 2009 01:00 AM |
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Binabik:
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A liberal rate of change meaning a lot of change, or fast change. A liberal sees things they believe are wrong, and they want fast change to fix those things. It could also be viewed as a liberal role of government (a lot of government). A large and widespread role of government would be a liberal view.
A conservative rate of change means little change, or slow change. A conservative sees things they think might be wrong, and their actions are more likely to be limited and slow. They would rather watch things and think them through rather than making fast changes. A conservative (small) role of government would be a limited role of government (especially limited centralized government).
But by that definition, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation would have been a conservative party back in the early 90s. Conservative communists? I don't think that really works.
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posted July 29, 2009 11:14 AM |
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1. There is a song called "If I can't have you" from the 70ies (Saturday night fever).
Where is one text line which may fit to the rhyme, but seems gramatically wrong (imho):
If I can't have you..
I don't want nobody baby
Aren't "don't" and "nobody" kind of a double negative?
Wouldn't be "I don't want anybody (else) baby" the correct form?
Or am I mislead by my german translation here?
2. Tody I've read about some words we use in german which obviously have an english background, but are created in germany and not "known" in english speaking countries at all. I wanna list them here and see if this is a fact: (ALL of the following words are NOUNS!)
a. entertainer
b. twen
c. handy
d. beamer
e. slipper
f. oldtimer
I won't give the translation resp. the meaning of these words now, because I want to see what meaning (if any at all) those words have in english speaking countries.
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posted July 29, 2009 11:23 AM |
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1. Yes it is a double negative, but then again songs are not always grammatically correct.
2. Tody I've read about some words we use in german which obviously have an english background, but are created in germany and not "known" in english speaking countries at all. I wanna list them here and see if this is a fact: (ALL of the following words are NOUNS!)
a. entertainer - Basically like a clown, magician, movie star, tv star, ect.
b. twen - is this Tween? Cause that means (if I am not mistaken)means somebody not quite a teenager but almost (13-19 is a teenager)
c. handy - Hmm according to dictionary.com means William Christopher if a noun. Never heard of it as a noun though.
d. beamer - Short (?) for BMW vehicle.
e. slipper - any light, low-cut shoe into which the foot may be easily slipped, for casual wear in the home, for dancing, etc like a house slipper.
f. oldtimer - An old fashion person.
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posted July 29, 2009 11:57 AM |
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I've heard of double negative from black people. I ain't got no time. I'm pretty sure it is wrong by Oxford standards 
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posted July 29, 2009 11:58 AM |
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From the fresh prince of bel air:
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So I saw geoffrey at the mirror and... Dude ain't got no reflection!
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posted July 29, 2009 11:59 AM |
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Should clarify Oldtimer. In America it is considered Old Fashion to do things like open doors for ladies, take their coats, etc. However, a young person who does this while Old Fashion is not an Oldtimer. An Oldtimer would be (by current society standard) somebody about 65 or older who would still do things like this.
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posted July 29, 2009 12:00 PM |
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Is it possible for an oldtimer to be an old car, mytical?
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posted July 29, 2009 12:08 PM |
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Not that I personally have ever heard of. I have heard them referred to as "Old Gal". Of course, different areas in America do have different words..so it is possible.
Lol and to be honest 'African-Americans' have nothing on some people from the south sometimes. That is, when you can understand them at all. My dad talks in what I lovingly refer to as Tobacciankentuckianese. Which is when somebody with a thick 'hillbilly' (like my dad who is from Kentucky) has a mouth full of chewing tobacco. I am one of the VERY few who can understand him, and then only about 50% of what he says (and I can fill in most of what I don't lol)
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posted July 29, 2009 12:44 PM |
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What's the difference between giving up and giving in?
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posted July 29, 2009 12:45 PM |
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giving up is surrendering, giving in is admitting.
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posted July 29, 2009 12:47 PM |
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'Giving in' means you're granting somebodies request, usually after an argument:
"Daddy, can you please let me go to the party?"
"Ok fine, I give in"
'Giving up' means you quit at something:
"This game is too hard, I give up"
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posted July 29, 2009 01:32 PM |
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Ok..thanks for the replies so far. Here are the meanings for these words in germany:
a. entertainer  someone who entertains people with music, jokes and little stories. Mostly used for famous show stars like Frank Sinatra etc...
b. twen someone who is between 20 and 30 years old
c. handy a cell phone
d. beamer a projector, mostly used in combination with a laptop or a computer to project the desktop on the wall
e. slipper a low shoe without shoelace
f. oldtimer an old car
So is any of these words used in common english?
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posted July 29, 2009 06:14 PM |
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I have only heard "handy" been used to mean cell phone in German. Beamer is also used like that in Denmark. Twen is not an English word.
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posted July 29, 2009 08:49 PM |
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@angelito
"Entertainer" is common usage meaning what you said.
"Handy" is an adjective which applies to someone who is adept at doing common tasks around a home, such as fixing things, painting, installing light fixtures, simple construction, etc. Derives from being skilled at doing things "with one's hands". Example: "John is very handy; he can install just about any appliance you can imagine." Or, "John is very handy with a blade." Meaning - John is very skilled with a knife. A jack-of-all-trades person who you pay to do little jobs around your property is known as a "handyman". Example: "John hired the local handyman to fix his fence and paint his bathroom."
"Twen" I have never heard of. Here, someone in their 20s is usually called a "twenty-something" or perhaps a "young adult", although you are usually considered a "young adult" until about 35 or so.
A "beamer" here is slang for BMW automobile.
"Slipper" is common usage, although typically we refer to it as something you wear around your home to keep your feet warm. A low shoe without shoelaces that you'd wear outside would either be a loafer, perhaps, or clogs. Depends on the shape of the shoe, etc.
"Oldtimer" here refers to an old man.
The first sentence you gave above is indeed incorect, although you find this a lot in music, for some reason.
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posted July 29, 2009 10:07 PM |
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Double negative
I used to use a lot of double negatives myself.
I pretty much agree with what the others said about Angelito's list. To add to it a little...
Handy can mean a couple of different (but related) things. I'm not aware of it being a noun.
As an adjective, a handy person means a person who is good working with their hands, and especially someone who is good at fixing things. The single word "handyman" usually means someone who is good at fixing things around the house and maybe doing minor remodeling. Often it's someone who gets paid for the work. A home maintenance person may be called a handyman.
I think the James Taylor song "Handyman" uses the word metaphorically.
Handy can also be a slightly more casual form of the word "useful". If you said "that's a handy tool" it means it's very useful and makes a task easier.
Oldtimer doesn't necessarily have to be someone old or a man. A lot of time it just means someone who's been around longer than most people within a certain group, almost like the word veteran. The people who have played H3 since the early days in the zone might be called oldtimers even if they are only 25 years old.
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But by that definition, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation would have been a conservative party back in the early 90s. Conservative communists?
That's correct. The communists in 90s Russia were the conservatives. They were even referred to that way in the news media. Perestroika was the liberal "progressive" view favoring openness and change.
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posted August 07, 2009 09:01 AM |
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A "beamer" here is slang for BMW automobile.
I heared a lot of times "boomer" is a slang for BMW automobile. But it's in the Eastern Europe. Quite strange. 
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posted October 14, 2009 06:52 PM |
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How do you call the blackish blueish areas right underneath your eyes that become more accentuated when you haven't slept in a while?
What do you call the thing cruella devil and the penguin have in their mouths in which they put their cigarettes?
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How do you call the blackish blueish areas right underneath your eyes that become more accentuated when you haven't slept in a while?
"The area under your eyes" is the usual term, though I believe periorbital skin (sp) is another.
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What do you call the thing cruella devil and the penguin have in their mouths in which they put their cigarettes?
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posted October 14, 2009 07:06 PM |
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Well, that was sort of painful...
And I miss that word a lot nowadays...
Well, I guess that shows the british don't care as much about facial cosmetics as the dutch
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