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niagaran
niagaran


Adventuring Hero
Braveheart returns
posted November 14, 2006 11:21 PM

version 0.79b

I downloaded from your latest link and reinstalled the rmg but it still hangs on the smallest of maps...does it matter where the dll (driver?)file goes? I really hope I can get it going... saving that is there a location where people have done random maps and made then available?
thx for listening

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Tapani
Tapani


Adventuring Hero
posted November 14, 2006 11:41 PM
Edited by Tapani at 02:34, 15 Nov 2006.

Niagaran,

creating the smallest map (72x72) works just fine for me (using both v0.79b and the experimental 0.90b)

The DLL is not a driver, it is used for creating zip files (the maps are just a zip with a different name), and should be in the same folder as the executable. Hope this help.

EDIT: I have updated the experimental RMG to also support various team settings. Since the expansion has been Unleashed onto the world a few hours ago, it might be worth mentioning that my RMGs do not support the expansion (yet). But, well, there is an official RMG that does..

//Tapani

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Genkaku
Genkaku


Hired Hero
posted November 15, 2006 10:40 AM
Edited by Genkaku at 10:41, 15 Nov 2006.

Once again : Good job
A few sugesstions if I may:
1)At some of the passes between the regions to place garrisons
2) There are to many Sanctuaries on some maps(there are 61 on the map from were the picture is taken) may be you can introduce a condition for some objects to allow only one object of that type for each zone

Random Map _P34Z (256x256)
- Created by Tapani's RMG generator 0.92b
- Creation time 2006-11-15 09:09 UTC
- Seed: D0108BBE

Settings:
- Monster strength : 19
- Instant travel : disabled
- Sea artifacts : disabled
- Necromancy : enabled
- Fairness : basic
- Richness : 5

____________
The life is full of
excitement, the afterlife is
all quiet and peace ,But the
passing from one to another
is really anoying.

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Tapani
Tapani


Adventuring Hero
posted November 15, 2006 03:16 PM
Edited by Tapani at 15:17, 15 Nov 2006.

Genkaku,

that Sanctuary problem you point out is a symptom of a more fundamental problem with the game - there are not many different objects to place!
The only remedy I can think of is having less objects, and disabling the "filthy rich" setting - those maps are just silly.

On your screenshot there are 9 sanctuaries.
But there are also 10 tavernas, 6 war machine factories, 10 marletto towers,  6 mercenary camps, 7 mage vaults, ... what should I have instead?

I have thought about preventing duplicate objects on areas, but that would result in many areas having one of every object. :-/ My hopes are that the expansion has some new interesting map objects I can fill in with.

//Tapani

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Genkaku
Genkaku


Hired Hero
posted November 15, 2006 03:31 PM


Tapani
Does your RMG supports placing ,on the maps it creates, custom objects?
What I would suggest is that we create a  mode with buildings for your RMG to place on the  maps.
Do you think is possible ?!


Heyyyy !
For all those that like what Tapani does for us , what you say ? will you help ?

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Tapani
Tapani


Adventuring Hero
posted November 15, 2006 04:03 PM

Genkaku,

there is nothing (as far as I know) to prevent custom content on the maps. I can add any data files into the map files.

My concern would be: how is the effect of activating objects controlled (like what guards are to be defeated inside, rewards, can something be bought inside the object...)? I thought some of this were controlled by the game .exe, but on the other hand, you probably know more about modding than I do ;-)

Oh, and adding garrisons between zones has been on my TODO list for some time :-)

//Tapani

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Genkaku
Genkaku


Hired Hero
posted November 15, 2006 04:08 PM

I'll give you 3 buildings by Friday.
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Tapani
Tapani


Adventuring Hero
posted November 15, 2006 04:20 PM

Sounds great! 8-)

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nevermind
nevermind


Famous Hero
posted November 15, 2006 05:03 PM

Quote:
Genkaku,

that Sanctuary problem you point out is a symptom of a more fundamental problem with the game - there are not many different objects to place!
The only remedy I can think of is having less objects, and disabling the "filthy rich" setting - those maps are just silly.

On your screenshot there are 9 sanctuaries.
But there are also 10 tavernas, 6 war machine factories, 10 marletto towers,  6 mercenary camps, 7 mage vaults, ... what should I have instead?

I have thought about preventing duplicate objects on areas, but that would result in many areas having one of every object. :-/ My hopes are that the expansion has some new interesting map objects I can fill in with.

//Tapani



Yep i noticed this thing long time ago when first seen homm too little objects overall in the game ,hopefully they noticed that too when developing the rmg for expansion and added tons of objects but ofcourse the chances for that are VERY LOW (stupid game makers! )
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Tapani
Tapani


Adventuring Hero
posted November 16, 2006 01:24 AM
Edited by Tapani at 01:27, 16 Nov 2006.

nevermind,

it seems like there are only ten new objects in the expansion.

As a sidenote: people on ubisoft forums seem quite negative toward the official RMG. If those reports are true, I guess there will be a continued interest in my RMG...

//Tapani

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Genkaku
Genkaku


Hired Hero
posted November 16, 2006 11:05 AM

First Building.
Nothing fancy. Is an old blacksmith that for 10.000 gold will improve the weapons of your army.(+3 attack)

Here is the map with the building.

http://etheral3d.googlepages.com/C_buildings.h5m


In fact is seer hut with a quest, and modified appearance.
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Tapani
Tapani


Adventuring Hero
posted November 16, 2006 11:57 AM

Interesting.. the effect is really good, but expensive. It is not a no-brainer, and I think I like that :-)
I took a quick peek on the file you sent, but it seems you forgot to include the 3d model - it looks like an ordinary blacksmith for me?

Adding custom objects into the RMG raises a lot of new issues:
- there might be people who do not appricieate these objects? I do not want to turn this RMG project into WoG II.
- quality of submitted objects: we all have opinions what objects are good, and at some point those opinions will conflict. Guess I want to say that I might reject objects I don't think fits in..

//Tapani

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Genkaku
Genkaku


Hired Hero
posted November 16, 2006 12:09 PM

 This object is a more of a test object(if it works or not with the RMG).
  I didn't create a new 3d model , is the model used by the game for the War machine factory + the special effect of the obelisk(I used these because they are compatible both with the add-on and the standard version).
  About adding new objects to the game:
  - you can place a button that enables/disables the use of the custom  objects on the creation of the map
  - I think is okay for you to decide what objects will be chosen to be introduced or if you want we can make a poll from time to time with ecah objects to be introduced.
   

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all quiet and peace ,But the
passing from one to another
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Tapani
Tapani


Adventuring Hero
posted November 16, 2006 12:34 PM
Edited by Tapani at 12:37, 16 Nov 2006.

This is what I ment with missing 3d-model:

It looks JUST like an ordinary blacksmith.

I am off to school now so I won't be able to test it in the RMG until this evening. A checkbox for enabling/disabling custom content is a good idea.

//Tapani

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Genkaku
Genkaku


Hired Hero
posted November 16, 2006 01:21 PM

Here is the
[url=http://etheral3d.googlepages.com/C_buildings.h5m]Updated map[/url]

It seems there are some troubles with the way the map editor saves the new objects.
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meows
meows

Tavern Dweller
posted November 16, 2006 02:16 PM

Quote:
 This object is a more of a test object(if it works or not with the RMG).
  I didn't create a new 3d model , is the model used by the game for the War machine factory + the special effect of the obelisk(I used these because they are compatible both with the add-on and the standard version).
  About adding new objects to the game:
  - you can place a button that enables/disables the use of the custom  objects on the creation of the map
  - I think is okay for you to decide what objects will be chosen to be introduced or if you want we can make a poll from time to time with ecah objects to be introduced.
   


Where is this button?
Quote:
- you can place a button that enables/disables the use of the custom  objects on the creation of the map
I ask because I played a custom map Master something and lost my seer hut! it shows in the editor but not in game!
Thanks you will save my H5 with the button!

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Genkaku
Genkaku


Hired Hero
posted November 16, 2006 02:26 PM
Edited by Genkaku at 14:26, 16 Nov 2006.

I was telling Tapani to place  such a vbuton in his RMG.
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sphere
sphere


Supreme Hero
posted November 16, 2006 05:49 PM

Hey,

- Sign here please...  

- We all know what that meant I will try to compare over the weekend, but as of yet, I'll stick with Tapanis RMG ( when the team play option has been looked into ) - Since it's not ( to my knowledge ) is in the HoF.

- Keep up the good work here guy's, it's a joy to follow the various experiments and updates !!


-Guz
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Who is this General Failure, and why is he looking at my disk ?

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Tapani
Tapani


Adventuring Hero
posted November 17, 2006 03:38 AM

Ok, my RMG can add Old Blacksmiths :-)

(Genkaku, if you want the RMG that generates these maps, I can send it to you, but I rather not make it public since it is a development version)

Also, the old blacksmiths does not work properly:

but I guess that was just a test version anyway?

I *should* be able to get my hands on HoF tomorrow, and with some luck you will see a HoF version of this RMG soon thereafter.

//Tapani

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Genkaku
Genkaku


Hired Hero
posted November 17, 2006 05:39 PM

 For this object i used only parts that are already in datapak so that it would be compatible with any version of the game.
 The object is in fact a seer hut(that is the standard interface for the seer hut .)
 Sorry about the text (it looked fine when i tested it ). I'll modify it as soon as possible.
 

 Last night I played a map made with your RMG.
 256x256, resources very poor , monsters omfg, heroic difficulty
 It took me 2 moths to obtain the wood and ore mines
  It was insane ,but totally cool
   I loved it ! haven't had this much fun from heroes 3!


Good job Tapani
 
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