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arachnid
Promising
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posted May 25, 2001 01:57 PM |
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um was it me or was there not a post by wallyone in here? it seems to of walked.
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zedrin
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Ping pong goes the gong
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posted May 27, 2001 08:55 PM |
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Long time no read
Well since i had no hands i couldn't write, got me a pair of chopsticks so i'm writing with my mouth.
Of course i am being a little provocative. How would people react if the situation was just a normal everyday occurence. For example: i ate a bowl of CoCo Puffs today, (stole them from Mocara) and not my usual toast.
Plus i am usually expressing points of view not necesarily personal.
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"Blow wind! Come wrack
At least we die with harness on our back" - Shakespeare, Macbeth
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Ichon
Responsible
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posted May 31, 2001 04:39 PM |
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Stayin Alive...
"You still seem to be saying that serial killers have to kill for pleasure just because they kill more than one person. In order to get pleasure out of killing they have to hate the person that they kill. I dont buy the fact that "hate is when you care about the victim still" infact i think its the exact opposite. If you still stand by that claim i think these are the ones most ill killing them because they care for them." -Arachnid
Well, it really depends on what you think motivates a person. I did say that I am only speaking of killing outside of any other motivations that are accepted, namely in times or war, or revenge. Possibly greed also. What is left? Hate, pleasure, and fear.
Hating a person doesn't always mean you want them removed, the worst hate would keep a person alive, but suffering. So in the end it is more merciful to kill your enemy then let them live.
Fear is a difficult diagnoses to make in terms of motivation for murder. What could scare a person more than the possible repercussions for murder? Of course many murderers likely think they can get away with it, but for those that kill when they know they will be caught, could fear possibly be a motivation?
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zedrin
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Ping pong goes the gong
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posted May 31, 2001 11:20 PM |
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Self defense... that would be a nice way to escape a murder charge... would work if a person was trully scared.
Fear is a great motivator... terror is something to be avoided. Easy to instill, its consequences can be unpredictable and thus potentially dangerous.
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"Blow wind! Come wrack
At least we die with harness on our back" - Shakespeare, Macbeth
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LadyLily
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The Iron Maiden
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posted May 31, 2001 11:36 PM |
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And, using the thread topic, you coudl say this to get away with murder:
"I had to keep my honor!"
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-LadyLily
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zedrin
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Ping pong goes the gong
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posted June 01, 2001 01:33 PM |
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Aye, often has honor been used as a motivation for different things otherwise "morally wrong".
Still, 'tis as good a reason as many, only a bit more acceptable for the masses.
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"Blow wind! Come wrack
At least we die with harness on our back" - Shakespeare, Macbeth
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Ichon
Responsible
Famous Hero
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posted June 02, 2001 04:09 AM |
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Terror
I would think terror would make someone truly desperate and willing to do anything... yet look at all the times in history when terrified people let themselves be slaughtered and didn't even fight back.
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deth8
Promising
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posted June 02, 2001 02:42 PM |
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Still Alive
Dang, haven't made it to the board much lately. Not sure where all the talk of killing has evolved from, but hopefully I will get a chance to get caught up soon.
Best regards to you all!
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dArGOn
Famous Hero
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posted June 16, 2001 05:57 AM |
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Speaking of death...man this link has really died I used to come here often to catch up on the latest debate...hope someone can think of some new things to discuss
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pandora
Honorable
Legendary Hero
The Chosen One
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posted June 16, 2001 10:03 PM |
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then sing for us oh great one
There's nothing like a song to get the crowd going Dargon, how bout it? hehe
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"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
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Dirkhard
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Disgraceful
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posted June 17, 2001 01:10 AM |
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does anyone know how to extract a portrait file from HoMM ? In order to use it in BG2 , for instance?
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deth8
Promising
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posted June 17, 2001 02:00 AM |
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yes
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does anyone know how to extract a portrait file from HoMM ? In order to use it in BG2 , for instance?
We don't usually extract them but instead copy them from the screen and then you can use an image editor to do whatever you like with the file. What is BG2?
-dEth8
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Shae_Trielle
Honorable
Famous Hero
of Heroes
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posted June 17, 2001 03:05 PM |
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Can you claim to be honourable?
A friend once asked me if I thought the death penalty should be brought back in (I live in australia, lol, land of the civilized beer drinkers), and I told him yes. He then said 'But killing a person, regardless of their crimes is not honourable'. Perhaps the legitimacy of that can be argued, but I thought to myself, I would risk death for a lot of people, people who I love. If someone was to kill my sister, I would get my revenge and kill them in the same manner. Honourable? Probably not, but in the end, as long as the murder is avenged, then I will sleep at night a lot easier.
Do I care about honour? Yes I do. Will I avoid being dishonourable at all costs? No. I think sometimes, dishonour is the only answer to certain things. I would gladly see the death sentence brought back to australia, because if not, the only form of retribution is what some of you would claim to be dishonour. I can live with that.
Can you?
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zedrin
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Ping pong goes the gong
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posted June 17, 2001 10:45 PM |
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Hehe Shae, i don't think killing is dishonourable. Certainly not revenge. It is a new idea, since even at the turn of the century and somewhat later killing out of revenge or compensation was still a daily event, even though publicly not acclaimed.
I don't know if it makes you feel better, i doubt i would, since i prefer to prolongue the suffering of the one i have to take revenge on... but i was not in such a situation... yet.
But the world moves on and on and time continues to play, so i'll wait and see, what else can i do?
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"Blow wind! Come wrack
At least we die with harness on our back" - Shakespeare, Macbeth
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Ichon
Responsible
Famous Hero
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posted June 18, 2001 12:50 AM |
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LOL
You seem almost eager for the time when you will get a chance for such an event Zedrin. Why bother to wait? Go provoke some idiot and get him to do something bad to you, then you can justifiably get your revenge. Of course, honor is what you owe those closest to you and who have shown you the greatest honor- in some cultures that is why parents are supposed to be so esteemed, they have shown you the greatest honor possible and you can never repay them for it. So whom are you being dishonorable to to seek your revenge? Possibly only the family of your victim, but then again- if you look at it as if they had raised him only to bring pain into your life, that wasn't very honorable so they deserve nothing but dishonor form you. Besides, honor is what rules you make for yourself- not the rules others make for you. Samaurai's didn't dishonor anyone but themselves, that is why they would kill themselves if their lord was assasinated, but only after making sure the assasin was dad.
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zedrin
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Ping pong goes the gong
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posted July 05, 2001 02:19 AM |
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I'm not in the habit of tempting fate... not anymore at least. Done so too many times and not always have i escaped unscathed.
If it would be the case of just provoking an idiot to do something bad to me, then why wait for him to do something bad to me? Just kill him in advance, considering the actions he would probably perform.
But what would one gain out of this? A new experience? Hardly, since it was planned... NEW experiences are spontaneous, unexpected, to which we react out of instinct. Those reactions are the fruit of our subconscious, of our enviroment and personality... By analyzing those we may yet discover something new about ourselves, something that may lift us or damn us...
Nout sure which is worse though.
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"Blow wind! Come wrack
At least we die with harness on our back" - Shakespeare, Macbeth
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Ichon
Responsible
Famous Hero
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posted July 05, 2001 05:31 AM |
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Provoking
Well, as for provoking a fools, you don't have to wait for them to actually do it, just be ready and when they move to do it, it's like a morality play, you can't be guilty till you've done it/ but in doing it you become guilty. So the lesser eveil is to get them before they do it, but after it's certain they are about to do it. Like if the US Navy had caught the Japanese outside of Pearl Harbor before the attack.
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Shae_Trielle
Honorable
Famous Hero
of Heroes
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posted July 05, 2001 02:49 PM |
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Since when did honour come into it anyway?
LOL! Hey if you all wanna yap about 'honour' I have a nice question for you.
Is it honourable for a male to attack a female?
And if not, then does that mean you would not attack a female hero with an army of pixies, harpies, water elementals and nagas?
Come, dishonourable men, and say that you will slap me! I dare you! I want to see how many of you are 'man' enough to answer this question honourably and come out at the end of it not looking like a complete fool...
*smile*
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Ubik
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posted July 05, 2001 03:58 PM |
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what honour?
There ain't no such as honour - but I guess you are way beyond this basic question right now.
And... aren't we all supposed to be "equal" by now? Men and women? Is this the "Knight in the shiny armour" age or am I missing something?
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Ubik
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 05, 2001 05:26 PM |
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It is not a matter of "right" or "wrong". Honour means someone acts as expected within the limits of the philosophical/moral/religious system he/she follows/attends/lives by.
It is definitely a relative value, and cannot be measured by general terms outside of this given reference system. To put it in more simple words, what seemed honourable to a 9th century knight (decapitating muslims, for instance) wouldn't be called quite a honorary deed nowadays, right?
So, honour is not really a universal value, it is more being loyal to a code of behaviour one imposes on self.
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