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Adventuring Hero
posted March 07, 2007 07:11 AM

2. Which hero class (faction) has the biggest impact percentage-wise to a unit's damage (approximate value)?
[say, a unit receives a maximum of +x% due to...(spells are not taken into account to simplify things)]
Sylvan, using the hero that increases Avenger damage by 2% per level and uses a pixie).  If that hero is level 40 (+80%), has luck (+100%), elven luck (+25%), attack (+15%), battle frenzy (+66%), nature's wrath (+33%), and hits a favorite creature (+100%) with luck triggering.

3. Which are the ways to resurrect friendly creatures?
First aid tent with first aid tent ability, resurrection (spell and archangel ability), rebirth, guardian angel, rune of ressurection, life drain, regeneration, raise dead, repair, eternal servitude

10. What are the ways to decrease enemy creatures' defense?
Vulnerability, armor crushing mini-artifact, fire spells with master of fire, raider charging, and precise shot

12. What is the maximum initiative increase (percentage) for a creature from artifacts?
(+20% from ring of speed) + (+10% from ring of celerity) + (10% for an artifact that affects creatures who are either a shooter or a walking melee creature, etc.) + (5% for artificats that affect a creature for either being small or large) = +45%

13. Which creature has the highest attack rating?
If the summoned phoenix doesn't count, then the answer is the regular phoenix (33 attack), but I think that point really goes to Dr_Shaman because he should be given another chance to answer the question since the question didn't specify that summoned creatures weren't included and I'm assuming he knew that the regular phoenix was the next best answer.

14. Which hero is the quickest to harm enemies at the start of the combat?
Out of curiosity, why was Lethos a better answer than Findan?  If Findan goes up against Lethos, Findan will actually deal damage before Lethos?

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Adventuring Hero
posted March 07, 2007 07:16 AM

Damn, I already realized I missed one more thing that can decrease defense so I know my answer to number 10 is wrong.

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pomo
pomo


Famous Hero
The lone peasant
posted March 07, 2007 08:00 AM

I'll have a go at 5 and 12

5.

Leadership
Army composition (having creatures of same/similar factions/limited number of different factions)
Hero of same faction as army
Tavern (forget for which factions exactly... Haven and um...)
Artifacts (Lion crown, Cape of the lions mane, armour of valor, Necklace of valor (forget the name exactly))
Map locations (rally flag, temple, the stone head thingy)
Week of evil/good creatures morale (forget names again lol)

12. 55% = 20% ring of speed + 10% ring of celerity + 5% small size creature + 10% caster + 10% flyer - so a pixie with rings of speed, celerity, and I forget which other artifacts are for flyers/casters/small creatures. Incidentally you can't have shooters + 10 item as it's a ring and overlaps with the ring of celerity - which is unfortunately the only specific one that I do recall.

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dschingi


Famous Hero
the guy with the dragon golem
posted March 07, 2007 08:45 AM

Quote:

1. Which spell immunity is the most common?
Fire

3. Which are the ways to resurrect friendly creatures?
First aid tent with first aid tent ability, resurrection (spell and archangel ability), rebirth, guardian angel, rune of resurrection, life drain, regeneration, raise dead, repair(although it's actually not resurrecting because the target can only be mechanic), eternal servitude, Archdevil resurrecting friendly stack as Pit Lord
(yes i copied the first part from blink)

7. How is it possible to make sure Findan's turn only occurs once (or possibly 2 or 3 times at most) in a battle even though the battle goes on for dozens of rounds (obviously this requires exploiting a bug)? (by blink)
Imbue Ballista + Triple shot (still he would act more than once, hmm...maybe against a dwarf with this sorcery ability that reduces initiative of the hero after casting a spell...)

9. What is the best rune to boost your berserkers' damage against a single target with a runemage?
Rune of Dragonform

10. What are the ways to decrease enemy creatures' defense?
Vulnerability, armor crushing mini-artifact, fire spells with master of fire, raider charging (yeah copied again), Plague Zombie's special

11. I guess ... it's Markal and Findan playing chess!

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Promising
Supreme Hero
posted March 07, 2007 10:32 AM

3. Mana Drain (Spectre) has not been suggested yet.

9. About the Rune of Berserking vs Dragon Form for Berserkers
- Rune of Berserking: +100% damage
- Rune of Dragon Form: +14 attack = +82.25% dmg max
Reason: Berserker attacks with Berserker Rage (+7Att+7Def gives +14Att)
* A>=D (M>1): max +70%
[ 1+(A+14-D)*0.05 ] / [ 1+(A-D)*0.05 ] = (M+0.7)/M = 1 + 0.7/M
* A+14<D (M-0.7>1): max +70%
[ 1+(D-A)*0.05 ] / [ 1+(D-A-14)*0.05 ] = M/(M-0.7) = 1 + 0.7/(M-0.7)
* A<D<=A+14: u=(D-A)*0.05, 0<u<=0.7
[ 1+(A+14-D)*0.05 ] * [ 1+(D-A)*0.05 ] = 1-uČ+0.7*(1+u)
f'(u) = -2u+0.7 donc max is obtained when u=0.35, i.e.
A = D-7: (1+7*0.05)*(1+7*0.05) = 1.35^2 = 1.8225


10. In HoF, Fortress Moat can also apply Burn (with Rune of Etherealness), the armor-damaging effect of Master of Fire.

13. In HoF, Fallen Angel has 35 Attack

14. I don't agree that Lethos is always faster
Findan does not deal damage himself: his army does.
Lethos poisoned enemies, but damage is only dealt when the enemy turns comes. So if any hero plays first (before all other creatures), Lethos does not deal damage.
Jhora has a better Initiative. Any Runemage with Swift Mind has a +0.25 bonus to his starting ATB. Those can play first (there is some randomness from starting ATB value).

15. Pomo answered 6250 gold per day
Add the Grail structure (+5000). You get 11250 gold per day.

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TDL
TDL


Honorable
Supreme Hero
The weak suffer. I endure.
posted March 07, 2007 10:55 AM

Points

OK... Here we go:

@ Blink:

2nd is correct... others miss a few things -_-

As for Findan and Lethos, due to lack of time, we had some limitations concerning testing out some heroes... In this case, we were looking on the theory side: Lethos's specialty advertises he harms BEFORE combat, thus enemies are poisoned from whence the tactics are ended.

@ Pomo:

+1 point for the 5th, although there are more locations, this one nets more than one point.

+1 point for the ring... exactly, pixie is one of the cases... But mind you, there are also +10% to casters so an archmage/lich/druid/inqui would get the same boost of 55%... No flyer/shooter/caster as of yet

@ dschingi

both you and blink forgot ONE more resurrecting thingie... should i give you one for 11th's creativity? anyhow, colliding that one with the first answer you get +1 point (fire is not the ONLY one)

@ sfi

3rd is yet missing one thing...

9th, 13th are correct - +2

14th - well he HARMs them instantly, but damage comes later the actual effect

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ma_trix
ma_trix


Adventuring Hero
Carpe Diem
posted March 07, 2007 10:57 AM

1.
There are 30 creatures immune to Frenzy/puppet master
There are 31 creatures immune to Blind spell
There are 84 creatures immune to Word of Light spell
so - if being non-undead, non-infernal isn't an immunity, then it's Blind spell which are mmost creatures immune to

3.
- First aid tent with first aid tent ability
- resurrection (spell and archangel ability)
- rebirth
- guardian angel
- rune of ressurection
- life drain
- regeneration
- raise dead
- repair
- eternal servitude
- Spectre's mana drain
- AND Consume Artifact Wizard's perk

9.
If you can use only one rune:
- rune of berserking
If you can use more than one turn:
- use rune of berserking and wait
- use rune of dragonform to boost stats and attack with Berserker's special (rune of berserking does not "fade" after it's not used immediately but it stays as long as creature didn't attack)

10.
- Vulnerability
- armor crushing mini-artifact
- fire spells with master of fire
- raider charging
- precise shot
- fortess' moat's effect - Burn

12.
It is for a Pixie:
- 20% Ring of Speed
- 10% Ring of Celerity
- 10% Dragon Teeth Necklace
- 10% Dragon Wing Mantle
- 5% Dragon Scale Shield
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=55%

13.
I suppose it's Fallen Angel (35 attack as far as i remeber)

14.
Runemage with Swift Mind perk - his ATB bar is <0.25;0.5> due to bonus

16.
- Havez,
- Zehir,
- Eruina (mistress),
- Lethos,
- Raelag,
- Yrwanna (mistress),
- Inga,
- Grawl,
- Gilraen,
- Ossir,

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Promising
Famous Hero
posted March 07, 2007 12:21 PM

So isn't rune of Berserking the correct one to number 9? Why didn't I get a point from it then

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ZombieLord
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Promising
Famous Hero
that wants your brainz...
posted March 07, 2007 12:56 PM

about the artifacts

@Pomo
Quote:
Artifacts (Lion crown, Cape of the lions mane, armour of valor, Necklace of valor (forget the name exactly))

There is still one artifact that gives morale missing (and I'm not talking about HoF artifacts). It is a little tricky, because it doesn't tell you directly it gives morale

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Famous Hero
that wants your brainz...
posted March 07, 2007 01:13 PM

I'll go for 10, you all forgot the most important thing!

10. What are the ways to decrease enemy creatures' defense?
- Vulnerability
- armor crushing mini-artifact
- fire spells with master of fire
- raider charging
- precise shot
- fortess' moat's effect - Burn
- necropolis' moat's effect (casts Vulnerability afaik)
- Plague Zombie's Weakening Strike
- Some weeks of 20% less defense for light/dark creatures
- Flaming Arrows (for Ballista)

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Adventuring Hero
posted March 07, 2007 01:25 PM
Edited by MysticPhoenix at 13:29, 07 Mar 2007.

Quote:
+1 point for the ring... exactly, pixie is one of the cases... But mind you, there are also +10% to casters so an archmage/lich/druid/inqui would get the same boost of 55%... No flyer/shooter/caster as of yet


You are sure, 2 ring's of the same don't stack? I think wearing 2 rings of speed add another 10%.

@Edit: I only edited some typos.
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ma_trix
ma_trix


Adventuring Hero
Carpe Diem
posted March 07, 2007 01:48 PM

5.
- army composition (having creatures of same/similar factions/limited number of different factions)
- hero of same faction as army
- tavern
Artifacts (Lion crown, Cape of the lions mane, armour of valor, Necklace of valor (forget the name exactly)
- map locations (rally flag, temple, the stone head thingy)
- week of evil/good creatures morale (forget names again lol)

Pomo forgot about:
- Sandals of the Blessed (it increases all heroe's stats, not atributes)
- mini arties
- artificial glory perk(it doesn't improve morale but allows some creatures and war machines to use it )
- runic attunement perk

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ZombieLord


Promising
Famous Hero
that wants your brainz...
posted March 07, 2007 01:53 PM

Quote:
- Sandals of the Blessed (it increases all heroe's stats, not atributes)

Yay, that was it!

Quote:
- artificial glory perk(it doesn't improve morale but allows some creatures and war machines to use it )

This one was as a bonus. Good you thought of it

+1 to Ma_trix for these 'missing' things
Should you receive +1 for the Artificial Glory thing? Well, TDL decides, but considering you already had a bonus (the thing with Boots of Levitation) I guess it's alright to give you another point

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TDL


Honorable
Supreme Hero
The weak suffer. I endure.
posted March 07, 2007 02:00 PM

Quote:
So isn't rune of Berserking the correct one to number 9? Why didn't I get a point from it then


sorry shauku, due to family probs i did not have much to look into what was written earlier xD

yea, you were right and for my mistake you get +1


@ pomo

might be, but as the quiz had to be rushed, not everything was game-tested

@ zl

lol, you forgot two more xD

as well, @ ma_trix:

1 (for really innovative and interesting explanation, though not exactly the one i looked for), 3, 16

hoorah

+3 points

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ma_trix
ma_trix


Adventuring Hero
Carpe Diem
posted March 07, 2007 02:02 PM
Edited by ma_trix at 14:03, 07 Mar 2007.

What's wrong with 1st and 9th? 9th is "developed" answer maybe one mor 0,5 point?
And why didn't i recieve another point for answering "fully" question about morale?
And could anyone post non-answered questions in one post?

EDIT: i added another question coz i don't want to spam forum.

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ZombieLord
ZombieLord


Promising
Famous Hero
that wants your brainz...
posted March 07, 2007 02:06 PM
Edited by ZombieLord at 14:09, 07 Mar 2007.

The morale one still has two more missing things I'll give you some hints but later

EDIT: wasn't my #10 "full"?

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TDL
TDL


Honorable
Supreme Hero
The weak suffer. I endure.
posted March 07, 2007 02:13 PM
Edited by TDL at 14:16, 07 Mar 2007.

nope not full ZL... something is missing


ma_trix - you do not get points for the same question when it is answered already... i gave you 1 for the 1st as 1st was more or less elemental based, not blind immunity... but still, appreciated and agreed...

going to edit this post and post the remaining questions... wait up:

some remained to be fully answered:

1, 5, 10

about blink, i do not know, but if they are not, then:

6, 7


i am leaving for uk this friday but i will have a conn there so i will try to think of smth if not, bug elvin to create something
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dschingi


Famous Hero
the guy with the dragon golem
posted March 07, 2007 02:39 PM

Question about the rules

I have answered 6 questions in this round so far. Can I guess those which were wrong again? (Elvin said we may answer 8 questions so I should have 2 tries left )
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Famous Hero
the guy with the dragon golem
posted March 07, 2007 03:05 PM

10.
what Zombie Lord said + Raven's Weakness Spell
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TDL


Honorable
Supreme Hero
The weak suffer. I endure.
posted March 07, 2007 03:21 PM

EXACTLY!

Bingo

After some checks, I realized that the 2nd thing requires to be dropped out as it involves the very same Vulnerability spell, just that it is related to an ability. I am talking about Hexing Attack - mummy, melee, 1/3 chance for vulnerability...

+1
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