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Thread: Which units will you choose while playing your favourite faction in TotE? [ This thread is 7 pages long: 1 2 3 (4) 5 6 7 ]
Gil-galad
Gil-galad


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High King of Noldor
posted August 17, 2007 08:01 AM

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[Why does everybody hate FortressRunes make them perfect against haven,Inferno and so,soso


I can't see anyone in this topic who have said Fortress sucks or something like that. Runes give an advantage, but so do gating, necromancer, avenger etc. In a huge battle between Fortress and Inferno the dwarves may suddenly be surrounded and destroyed by normal and gated units. Necromancy give large armys, larger than the dwarf army, and necromancers often have lots of dark magic. Rangers with imbue-arrows (sorry if I misspelled that) and imbue-ballistas are tough to beat. I see no reason to say that Fortress is better than the other factions

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LiZaRdMeN
LiZaRdMeN


Disgraceful
Known Hero
The king of Grimheim
posted August 19, 2007 09:34 PM - penalty applied.
Edited by alcibiades at 22:16, 19 Aug 2007.

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[Why does everybody hate FortressRunes make them perfect against haven,Inferno and so,soso


I can't see anyone in this topic who have said Fortress sucks or something like that. Runes give an advantage, but so do gating, necromancer, avenger etc. In a huge battle between Fortress and Inferno the dwarves may suddenly be surrounded and destroyed by normal and gated units. Necromancy give large armys, larger than the dwarf army, and necromancers often have lots of dark magic. Rangers with imbue-arrows (sorry if I misspelled that) and imbue-ballistas are tough to beat. I see no reason to say that Fortress is better than the other factions


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Daystar
Daystar


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Back from the Dead
posted August 19, 2007 09:36 PM

no...logic-er.

Besides, to er is human.
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Elvin
Elvin

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posted August 19, 2007 09:43 PM

And to arr is pirate, yes But that does not change the fact that Gil-galad is a HATER
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Gil-galad
Gil-galad


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High King of Noldor
posted August 20, 2007 08:52 AM

Be carefull or I'll hate you Aaarrrggghhh I hate the whole world Just kidding I wonder though why the only responce to my personal and serious opinion in this matter is HATER It's just my opinion, and everyone says (writes) their opinion in this forum. But as I can see I'm not the first to be called hater

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LiZaRdMeN
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posted August 20, 2007 09:08 AM
Edited by alcibiades at 18:13, 20 Aug 2007.

Seriously,why do you all like haven-this is the dumbest faction-they're units are ugly boring and weak,but the fortress units have cool abilitys and with combin. with the runes they can win any combat

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Bombur
Bombur


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posted August 20, 2007 09:21 AM

I think Haven might be the strongest faction in heroes 5.

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LiZaRdMeN
LiZaRdMeN


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The king of Grimheim
posted August 20, 2007 10:50 AM

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I think Haven might be the strongest faction in heroes 5.
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Nice to see an explanation

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Orfinn
Orfinn


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Werewolf Duke
posted August 20, 2007 10:50 AM

Hey Lizzy, eat a banana! Seriously its a matter of opinion as plenty have said too many times alredy.

I think Im gonna wait until release to post my lineup(s), since I have to see the new units in action first

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Daystar
Daystar


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posted August 20, 2007 11:14 AM

Every faction has a reason to like it:

Haven: Traditional, Strong, Straightforward
Inferno: Powerful, Blunt, Gating is good
Necropolis: Necromancy means large armies
Sylvan: Good at creeping/archer-ing, traditional
Academy: Good at casting/shooting, actually useful Hero Skill
Dungeon: Good at rushing, Black Dragons, Girls with whips in Bikinis.
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Tenaka
Tenaka


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Makes sense
posted August 20, 2007 11:17 AM
Edited by Tenaka at 11:18, 20 Aug 2007.

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I think Haven might be the strongest faction in heroes 5.



Nice to see an explanation


You're the right person to say that, yeah...

Seriously, I bet half of the people here can Kick your fortress ass with Haven...
No pun intended. (To the Fortress faction, at least... )
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LiZaRdMeN
LiZaRdMeN


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The king of Grimheim
posted August 20, 2007 05:10 PM

Oh,come on,runes are so powerfull,they have better units!Here is what will happen:

The blackbears use paw strike on paladinThe sucking and *****  idiots lose they're initative,then the rune patriarch hits marksmen  and inquisitor and squire[no expl. needed why they are so close]The stromlord uses rune of charge and atacks several creatures.The Haven units are slowly diyng in an atemp to kill the dwarves,skirmishers atack paladins and they get c.w.,the justing bonus is  minimal,but the problem are the  the inqusitors,and the marksmen,and the angels.It is time to use the heavy artilery for these hard enemies,the rune patriarch cast deflect missle on the magmas .The magma dragon recieves + 5 speed because  of rune of charge ,then goes straight after the enemy.The rune patriarchs cast fire wall on the shooters,so they will get damage every time they atck or retalite.The magma dragons magma shield dlowly ducide the damn archangels ,the paladins and the other powerfull units slowly die,the enemy hero is despered and cast light spells on his units,but the overhelming dwarven forces with combination of runes are killing fast the oposite creature.Not to mention the powerfull skills of the runemage!

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Deathy
Deathy


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Angels Galore
posted August 20, 2007 06:02 PM
Edited by Deathy at 18:05, 20 Aug 2007.

lol your right, against computer players that would probably happen

and you saying like bears will play before paladins is 100% sure isn't pretty smart. last time i checked, paladins have 12 inititiave, while bears have 11. so most of the time i would say paladins play first.

in most haven vs fortress battles, griffins and paladins go first, and if the haven hero has proper skills, that could very well mean two stacks gone from the fortress. the paladins will most probably erase a important stack, like bears or warlords. also if this is very long game and haven has two stacks of paladins, you might lose both bears AND warlords. berserkers alone won't do enough damage on the paladins to wipe them out completely. because berserkers will act before hero meaning they will have only one rune activated and their berserk ability. magma's are really slow so they will be one of the last creatures to act, shieldguards are meant to tank, not to damage. skirmishers have nothing and rune patriarchs cannot do anything if they get wiped by griffins. of course my example is pretty haven favourable but it is very possible, griffins with luck and morale would surely wipe a shooter with battle dive, paladins with attack skill and luck jousting from full distance will surely wipe away one stack.

alotta things happen in battles, and haven and fortress are very equal overall. fortress has it's runes but haven has training and overall faster units.

lol to not go totally off topic, i definetly wanna test the Blood Angels first, the whole idea of lvl 7 caster makes me exited. i just hope they don't think divine vengeance is reason enough to make their stats suck. tho while i wanna test them, ill still pick archangels if the stats are left bad :x also crossbowmen might give a whole new vision of creeping for haven.

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alcibiades Online
alcibiades

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posted August 20, 2007 06:11 PM

Nice scenario, but there are a couple of flaws ... For instance, Paladin with Initiative 12 has higher probability than the Black Bear rider with Initiative 11 of acting first. And what happens when Griffins with Initiative 15 battle dive on your Rune Patriarcs? And what makes you think that the Haven player, who knows that he's up against Storm Lords, will keep his Marksmen, Squires and Inquisitors grouped - especially when he's up against a faction where all the fast units are large units, and thus you fairly easily can block their path without grouping their stacks? Which is even more likely as Tactics is fairly easy to obtain for Knight and doesn't block anything since Power Of Speed is virtually impossible to reach anyway.
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Elvin
Elvin

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posted August 20, 2007 06:21 PM

Dream on, a haven player will have amassed a good number of paladins through training early enough. That means that crippling wound or paw strike that are hp based will usually fail anyway. Not saying they are invincible but that you are theorycrafting big time.
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LiZaRdMeN
LiZaRdMeN


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The king of Grimheim
posted August 20, 2007 06:25 PM

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Dream on, a haven player will have amassed a good number of paladins through training early enough. That means that crippling wound or paw strike that are hp based will usually fail anyway. Not saying they are invincible but that you are theorycrafting big time.


MUHAHAHAHA Even the dumbest player will know that  the enemy will use the abilty on the shooters,a imperial griffin has never harm any of my unitd,because i move them from the  they previous poziton

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alcibiades Online
alcibiades

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posted August 20, 2007 06:26 PM

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Even the dumbest player will know that  the enemy will use the abilty on the shooters,a imperial griffin has never harm any of my unitd,because i move them from the  they previous poziton


Yes ... but how is it you will BOTH move your Rune Patriarcs AND use them to shoot on the Marksmen?
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Elvin
Elvin

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posted August 20, 2007 06:32 PM

Yep that's why a good player won't always target shooters But anyway which shooters, will you move both? The griffins may not battle dive at all if they have adequate damage.
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ismail222
ismail222


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The Cataclysm
posted August 20, 2007 06:36 PM

Looks like lizzy has a fortress fever and he's not even skilled with it
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Tenaka
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Makes sense
posted August 20, 2007 08:05 PM

Alright, we're off topic, now.

P.S: Owned!
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