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Thread: Revival of the Ghosts - GotP back alive!!! This thread is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 · «PREV / NEXT»
guarder
guarder


Supreme Hero
posted October 17, 2007 04:28 PM
Edited by guarder at 20:30, 17 Oct 2007.

                    *****SPOILERS*****










I think you must change the storyline a bit, now is Freyda queen and Duncan is king. Andrei is dead. Isabel is not queen longer so why should they kill she? And Andrei is dead so he can't be the high priest
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Ted
Ted


Promising
Supreme Hero
Peanut Exterminator
posted October 17, 2007 05:09 PM

you just spoiled the storyline man i wanted to complete it and find out that way but i guess your right, we'll have to change the storyline siginicantly now
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guarder
guarder


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posted October 17, 2007 08:30 PM

Sorry Ted i forgot to put *****SPOILERS***** there. i'm sorry
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Serpent2
Serpent2


Famous Hero
Overlord of Tililea
posted October 17, 2007 09:47 PM

WOW my timeline and ayden bio are im the introduction post - huraah. Btw What did you decide abput the satyr and will you be able to coplete the MOD and create the separate exe files think if there is that protection in TotE? And also if GotP and ToK are finished could we try to revive the two other big mods - Conflux pack, and reupgrades(I stil think that we should actually merge GotP, Conflux pack and ToK into a realy big thing. And reupgrades is sort of worth to play although it'll ned twice as much new units if we try to make it for TotE.)
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VokialBG
VokialBG


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First in line
posted October 17, 2007 10:25 PM

Story doesn't matter anymore, the project is impossible to be completed.

GotP project is officially death - nival put protection to all files and they can not be edited.
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CrazyPill
CrazyPill


Hired Hero
posted October 17, 2007 10:42 PM

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Story doesn't matter anymore, the project is impossible to be completed.
GotP project is officially death - nival put protection to all files and they can not be edited.

What kind of protection do you mean? It sounds strange. "Tribes of the east" is more open and less complicated for modding than v2.1

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guarder
guarder


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posted October 17, 2007 10:46 PM

What do you mean? TotE has file protection so you can't edit them
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skullman
skullman


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posted October 17, 2007 10:47 PM

well. can you remove it

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VokialBG
VokialBG


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Legendary Hero
First in line
posted October 17, 2007 10:52 PM

It can be problem with my game copy but everyone I asked for now told to me that he can't edit too.

I was able to edit the demo but I cant the full version...
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skullman
skullman


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banned
posted October 17, 2007 10:54 PM

so it can't be removed

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Mythrignoc
Mythrignoc

Tavern Dweller
posted October 17, 2007 11:01 PM

Some thoughts-

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Djinn --->>> Genie
Djinn Sultan --->>> Denie Lord


Not sure if this is meant as a sort of correction on spelling or whatnot, but Djinn's and Genie's are actually two completely different creature. Djinn's are usually the equivelant of an Islamic Angel, Genie's are the equivelant of Islamic Demons.

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Minotaur Guard --->>> Minotaur King


This wouldn't make much sense. A Minotaur King would have obviously had some battle experience just by the name King alone, and having about a thousand of those on a single battlefield as footsoldiers wouldn't make much sense. Maybe as a hero instead? Or maybe Minotaur Captian? Dunno...

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Grim Raider --->>> Dark Champion


Dark champion doesn't quite fit in with the whole Raider idea. Maybe Dark Pillager? Grim Pillager. Death Raider?

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Griffin --->>> Noble Griffin
Imperial Griffin --->>> ?


Maybe it should be-
Griffin --->>> Imperial Griffin
Imperial Griffin --->>> Noble Griffin

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Master Hunter --->>> Grand Elf


Wild elf might suit this better. Grand Elf makes me think of a sorcerer of noble status among elves, not really a sharpshooter.

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# Renegades as a playable race;


If you get the ability to fit in one of your own unique races, I'd suggest Lycanthrope. Like a Rogue Ratman and the upgrade being Ratman Assassin. Obviously with a fancier name, but still. Although, this might not fit as well as something else, hell maybe a full fledge lycanthrope race would be cool, but that's a different subject.

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- +1 Speed and Iniciative to the Zombie
- +1 Speed to the Plague Zombie


Not at all a good idea. Yes, it would balance them out and make them a bit more of a good fight against other races, but zombies have always been known to be spacey dawdlers.

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- Liches and Archliches are small creatures now


Why? These are the most powerful spellcaster creatures. Succubus only has a chain that get weaker and no spells. Wizards have spells but not very good ones, as well as a magic attack that hurts anyone within a line, and being that most of the other academy creatures are melee units, this makes wizards useless. Witches have a single weak bolt against one enemy, horrible spells, and a horrible growth rate. Clerics are just as bad as witches, as well as druids. But Lich's, they have a good selection of spells considering the usage of skeleton archers, not to mention the second tier has an attack that hurts creatures adjacent to the target, which is much more controlled than the line attack from wizards.

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- The effect of the spell can be seen directly in the casters spell book, before casting


This is a preexisting thing, not really a change.

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- Chages almost all spells names


Puppet Master is the only spell name that needs changing. Why change the name of fireball when it's a giant ball of fire? Or Chain lightning when it's a lightning bolt that chains to other people? Vulnerability when it makes people more vulnerable?

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Story doesn't matter anymore, the project is impossible to be completed.

GotP project is officially death - nival put protection to all files and they can not be edited.


That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Not what you said, but the fact that it might be true. Why would a game company make a strategy game that's impossible to mod? That gets rid of like half the lasting value.
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Serpent2
Serpent2


Famous Hero
Overlord of Tililea
posted October 18, 2007 12:06 PM

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!

Wny do all the big mods always dieeeeeeee?! Only WoG didn't as far as I know. Conflux is dead and now GotP (AGAIN), so maybe ToK is death and second upgrades died for some reason too. Not to mention I had a plan about a big TotE MOD that I was gonna post whenever GotP+ToK+Conflux is completed - but non of the three will evedr be completed and so the big one won't be even started, and if I post my MOD plan it will also not be completable.
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Crazypill
Crazypill


Hired Hero
posted October 18, 2007 01:13 PM

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Wny do all the big mods always dieeeeeeee?!

1. No real leaders of the projects.
2. No real targets that can be put in TODO list and roadmap.
Don't look at things that was talked more than done. Look at successful projects. Look at LotA campaign. Look at projects staying alive and evolving for years like freeCiv, freeCol, OpenTTD.

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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted October 18, 2007 03:14 PM

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nival put protection to all files and they can not be edited.


3.0 mod thread

Also, sfidanza wrote:

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I don't know where Vokial saw that. Modding still works the way it used to: place your mod as .h5m in the Maps/ folder. Please don't spread nonsense without testing things first.
The new UserMODs/ folder is tricky, I agree, and I'm still investigating this issue.

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Ted
Ted


Promising
Supreme Hero
Peanut Exterminator
posted October 18, 2007 04:47 PM

thanks man, you saved this projecct handsdown

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Cepheus
Cepheus


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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted October 18, 2007 04:54 PM
Edited by Cepheus at 17:06, 18 Oct 2007.

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Story doesn't matter anymore, the project is impossible to be completed.

GotP project is officially death - nival put protection to all files and they can not be edited.


Listen here and listen well.  There is no protection on those files, and I have been editing them like never before.  There's obviously something strangely wrong with your copy of the game or something.  The project is not dead at all.

Now, as for some answers:

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Not sure if this is meant as a sort of correction on spelling or whatnot, but Djinn's and Genie's are actually two completely different creature. Djinn's are usually the equivelant of an Islamic Angel, Genie's are the equivelant of Islamic Demons.


We're going back to the Heroes III style, so the Genies are coming with us as well.

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This wouldn't make much sense. A Minotaur King would have obviously had some battle experience just by the name King alone, and having about a thousand of those on a single battlefield as footsoldiers wouldn't make much sense. Maybe as a hero instead? Or maybe Minotaur Captian? Dunno...


I agree, that was a stupid name in the first place.  There's a thousand better names we could use.

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Dark champion doesn't quite fit in with the whole Raider idea. Maybe Dark Pillager? Grim Pillager. Death Raider?


In keeping with the old Heroes storyline I propose we turn those lizards into Basilisks (ala Might and Magic VIII) and have ourselves Basilisk Riders.  I can do it myself (I've already done so with Alamar's skin).

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Master Hunter --->>> Grand Elf


I don't like that change at all either and think the Hunter should be left alone.  Wood Elves are a race in this game, not a single creature.

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Not at all a good idea. Yes, it would balance them out and make them a bit more of a good fight against other races, but zombies have always been known to be spacey dawdlers.


Indeed, I agree.

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Why? These are the most powerful spellcaster creatures.


Yes, there's no need to make them small.  Mods are meant to add things to the game, not to totally disrupt their delicate balance.

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Puppet Master is the only spell name that needs changing. Why change the name of fireball when it's a giant ball of fire? Or Chain lightning when it's a lightning bolt that chains to other people? Vulnerability when it makes people more vulnerable?


Apart from a few changes where we'll revert the new-fangled names to the old versions from classic Heroes games, only crap names like Puppet Master will be changed.

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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted October 18, 2007 07:19 PM

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There is no protection on those files, and I have been editing them like never before.  There's obviously something strangely wrong with your copy of the game or something.  The project is not dead at all.



Sure, we know it can be done.  Can you share how?  Because whenever I try to change values in the .pak files like I did in 2.1 winrar crashes.

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Mythrignoc
Mythrignoc

Tavern Dweller
posted October 18, 2007 07:21 PM

Dude, you're using WinRAR to edit the database of a program? Why not use Visual Studios? It's free, legal, and a hell of a lot easier.
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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted October 18, 2007 07:27 PM
Edited by phoenixreborn at 19:28, 18 Oct 2007.

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Dude, you're using WinRAR to edit the database of a program? Why not use Visual Studios? It's free, legal, and a hell of a lot easier.


All I'm personally doing is changing numerical values like starting resources and luck modifiers, nothing graphical.

edit: sorry for diverting the thread, but obviously Vokial needs assistance with this also.

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Serpent2
Serpent2


Famous Hero
Overlord of Tililea
posted October 18, 2007 07:34 PM

WOW _ I"S NO TDEAD _ HORAAAAAH _ SO I'll post my project some day too. but not yet - i wan to see GotP and ToK completed and if possible Conflux and reupgrades.
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