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Ace-Angel
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posted December 13, 2008 02:44 PM |
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@Asheera: Well, smack me hard and call my Shirley, I didn't know that! That is big for me since now I can use 3D texturing programs much more easily and effectively! Also, now the study of the model is 10x easier! Thank you I owe you one.
@Cepheus: Thank, I didn't know that. Useful function! Pity though that the Tribes expansion is coded differently.
I would like to thank you guys and Radar for helping me out. If I have any other questions I will be sure to ask here.
Cheers to all and ciao.
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xerox
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posted December 29, 2008 02:55 PM |
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I have actualy made progress in texturing.
But how do I put my edited texture in-game? I can only see it on the adventure map (a purple pixie in this case).
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Over himself, over his own
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Asheera
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posted December 29, 2008 02:59 PM |
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Because you edited only the LOD files, or those tags that have an "Adv" suffix. Those are for adventure map.
But you should also modify the normal files without any suffix (sometimes they are also named with "Arena")
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xerox
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posted December 29, 2008 05:46 PM |
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Edited by xerox at 17:49, 29 Dec 2008.
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This is so weird. Basically, I copied the Pixie.lod.texture.lod.dds bla bla bla and put it in an editing folder.
Then I edited it and copy pasted it back to the un-extracted data folder and replaced the normal texture with my edited one.
Then I started the game and saw my emerald dream Pixie instead of the blue one. Then I closed the game, and logged in again.
But the second time - the Pixie had its normal blue color!!!
and you're supposed to edit the Model folder right? Because there is no dds in characters.
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Over himself, over his own
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Asheera
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posted December 29, 2008 06:01 PM |
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There are two textures for pre-TotE creatures. The ones with "Lod" in their name are for the adventure map.
And some Textures are in Model folder, some are in the Textures one, and some are someplace else... they're scattered all over the place, it's a mess. 
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xerox
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posted December 29, 2008 06:35 PM |
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Edited by xerox at 18:43, 29 Dec 2008.
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Ok, I understand.
I have no idea what Nival was thinking when they made this. Now I have to find the non-lod textures.
Also I found a Dinosaur creature texture and some kind of "Sea Merchant" building texture - is it common sense or did I discover it first on HC? 
edit: Bah! All creatures in the Sylvan/Preserve Model folder are LOD! 
This is the worst game I ever have modded
Atleast Warcraft 3 had in-built modding stuff
I cant find the normal non-LOD Pixie texture anywhere *cry*
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Over himself, over his own
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TSoD
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posted December 29, 2008 06:41 PM |
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Go seek in :
Textures/Auto-imported___320/Creatures/ too. There are a lot there. Also in Characters/Creatures/.
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Cepheus
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posted December 29, 2008 08:20 PM |
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I cant find the normal non-LOD Pixie texture anywhere
I believe they are in Textures/auto-imported/Creatures/Preserve/Pixie_LOD
The Dinosaur textures are for a static "joke" model much like the WW2 planes and UFOs. I don't know what you mean by Sea Merchant.
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Asheera
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posted December 29, 2008 08:31 PM |
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Quote:
This is the worst game I ever have modded
Because officially it is not supposed to be modded, except making maps, since Nival didn't release any tool whatsoever.
It's pretty clear to see that, although .xdb files are text, Nival used a program to generate them (just look at all that mess - someone who would have made them manually would have organized them better)
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ShinRA
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posted December 29, 2008 09:25 PM |
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Where can I place "Complete" folder in Heroes 5 directory. Because there are no such folders named "Complete" in My Heroes 5 directory, Do I have to create it Myself?
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Cepheus
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posted December 29, 2008 09:31 PM |
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Well, yes, but that depends on whether you need it or not... If you've downloaded an NCF creature then that's what you do.
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Fauch
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posted December 29, 2008 10:24 PM |
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Quote:
Quote:
This is the worst game I ever have modded
Because officially it is not supposed to be modded, except making maps, since Nival didn't release any tool whatsoever.
It's pretty clear to see that, although .xdb files are text, Nival used a program to generate them (just look at all that mess - someone who would have made them manually would have organized them better)
Huh? shouldn't a program always organize them in the same ways?
some program generates horrible code, but to me, it looks like nival made the work manually. it can be hard to organize everything when you aren't used to it, you keep coding, and when you realize you have created a mess, you can't even fix it because you won't have enough time left to finish the game.
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Asheera
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posted December 29, 2008 10:25 PM |
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Edited by Asheera at 22:25, 29 Dec 2008.
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Just take a look at "Textures\auto-imported_____19372"
Come on, that is clearly a folder name auto-generated by some program at a testing phase or something... and there are many more like that.
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Fauch
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posted December 29, 2008 10:27 PM |
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hey actually that coud be yes.
unless nival programmers are silly
so maybe a program did most of the work, but they forgot to rename some repertories.
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xerox
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posted December 29, 2008 11:06 PM |
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Edited by xerox at 23:21, 29 Dec 2008.
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Thanks! Didnt know that there was creatures in those weird folders.
edit: this is the last problem I have, I think
So I have edited the Pixie now - but how do you put into the Data.pak folder? I tried to copy paste it inside but it didnt work, I just got "The program doesnt answer" when I did that.
It would be fun to actualy be able to see it in-game
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Over himself, over his own
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Asheera
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posted December 29, 2008 11:31 PM |
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Don't put it in Data.pak
Put it outside, while keeping the same directory structure.
Here's an example of a correct path that works:
For data\data.pak\GameMechanics\RPGStats\DefaultStats.xdb
It should be data\GameMechanics\RPGStats\DefaultStats.xdb
I think that example will be enough for you to understand.
However, even if it works that way, it's not a good way to share it with others in that format. So, here's what you have to do: Create a .zip file with WinRar or WinZip or any other program that can create .zip files. This .zip file must contain exactly the folders you have in the data folder that are for your mod with the Pixie. After you create the .zip file, rename its extension to .h5u and place it in UserMODs folder.
Then of course you can remove the folders related to your mod from the data directory, since you create the .h5u file (zip) which is a Mod.
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xerox
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posted December 30, 2008 12:48 AM |
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Just to be one the safe side... h5m makes the folder have the map editor icon, is this right?
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Over himself, over his own
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Asheera
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posted December 30, 2008 12:51 AM |
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h5m are maps, h5u are Mods, and yes they both have the same icon.
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xerox
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posted December 30, 2008 12:54 AM |
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Opps I just misread then -.-
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Over himself, over his own
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xerox
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posted December 30, 2008 01:21 AM |
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Edited by xerox at 01:28, 30 Dec 2008.
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Omg Asheera, you are a god(dess)!!!
Finally I can make beautiful texturing mods for HC and gain precious QPs for them!!!1 
Now its time to make the Dryad, which will be purple.
I will also recolor icons later, now that I get the whole texturing thing.
Sylvan will be changed to have a lunar/solar theme.
edit: bah, have to find the stupid non-lod Dryad now!
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Over himself, over his own
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