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Thread: [NCF project] Adding creatures in ToE! This thread is 19 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 · «PREV / NEXT»
Orfinn
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Werewolf Duke
posted January 28, 2008 10:16 PM

Quote:
- 291-293: by Cepheus



Whats by Cepheus?
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Daystar
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posted January 28, 2008 10:19 PM

Perhaps he means "BiCepheus" and his upgrades?
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Cepheus
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Far-flung Keeper
posted January 28, 2008 10:23 PM

BiCepheus?  Now that's a good one

I was planning to make Gorgons but the textures need a lot of work, so for now it'll be Dragonfly Hives when I get round to it.

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Orfinn
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posted January 28, 2008 10:38 PM

Ah....
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posted January 28, 2008 10:47 PM

What would you make gorgons from?
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Cepheus
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Far-flung Keeper
posted January 28, 2008 10:50 PM

Those bulls the Barbarians like to sit on...  I have a decent texture already, needs some work though.  Want a screenshot?

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posted January 28, 2008 10:56 PM

Oh, right.  Sorry, to me Gorgon = Medusa.
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posted January 28, 2008 10:59 PM

It was to me too, but the H3 Gorgon fixed that quickly

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Cepheus
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Far-flung Keeper
posted January 28, 2008 11:08 PM

Here is what I had in mind:



I was playing around too much with transparency and this happened... also parts of the actual texture need serious reworking.  After a while I got bored trying to restore it.

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posted January 28, 2008 11:45 PM
Edited by Gnoll_Mage at 23:45, 28 Jan 2008.

It's certainly a great way to make a Gorgon! (Although I always assumed it was an ox...)
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Wulfstan8182
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posted January 28, 2008 11:53 PM

Quote:
- 297: Azure Dragon - by Wulfstan8182

thx sfidanza
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mamgaeater
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posted January 29, 2008 07:33 PM

i'd like to reserve a slot for my first neutral ever
--THE RENEGADE--
Please.
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sfidanza
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posted January 30, 2008 10:27 AM

302: Renegade - by mamgaeater

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Wulfstan8182
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posted January 30, 2008 10:18 PM
Edited by Wulfstan8182 at 00:13, 31 Jan 2008.

i would also like to reserve a spot for a cosmic dragon please.
EDIT: and also, what do i need to do to "update" my framework from 1.0 to 1.1? do i need to delete everything or do i just need to replace one file? or is it already there and you just didn't want such a big rush by saying the limit is infinity?
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posted January 31, 2008 12:36 AM

303: Cosmic Dragon - by Wulfstan8182
(btw, how is the Azure Dragon coming?)

To update to 1.1, you just have to
1. copy the new files
2. delete New_Creatures_Framework.h5u in UserMODs/

Sorry about step 2, I changed the name of the mod part to keep things better organized. It won't happen again in the future (hopefully).
Also note that UserMODs/NCF__DefaultStats.h5u is optional: you can remove it if you want to use an AI-tweaking mod, as there will be a conflict between them. (If you know what you do, you can of course merge the 2 files for yourself.)

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posted January 31, 2008 12:49 AM
Edited by Wulfstan8182 at 04:33, 31 Jan 2008.

thx sfidanza. i am just working out the stats for the Azure. should be done pretty soon.
EDIT: everything is ready i just don't know what file i need to put in the mod. it is obviously not just the texture and the .xdb. can anyone tell me what "type" should i put in? like there are 20 .xdbs about crystal dragon. i am not sure if i need all of them. and there are ones like "...-geom", the normal one, the one with "(Texture)" at the end. you know what i mean. can someone please clarify that for me? thx.
EDIT3: so Cep, are you making the gorgons still? 'cause if you got tired of fiddling with the textures i am soon done my Azure and can give that a try.
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radar
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posted January 31, 2008 02:10 PM bonus applied by VokialBG on 11 Feb 2008.
Edited by radar at 13:15, 01 Feb 2008.

@Wulfstan (and Daystar):

The NCF-based creature package should contain (assuming we work on Creature_100):

- main xdb file: GameMechanics\Creature\Creatures\Neutrals\Creature_100.xdb,

- CreatureVisual file in GameMechanics\CreatureVisual\Creatures\Neutrals\,

- Character file in Characters\Creatures\Neutrals\(creature_name)\,

- Arena Animations file, BasicSkelAnim files, Model, Material files, Texture files, textures themselves, Geometrics, Geometrics AI (i'm not sure about that but since it's linked in the geometrics file I put that too), Skeleton file. Most likely in the same folder as Character file.


- Icon file & icon itself, most likely in
Textures\Interface\CombatArena\Faces\Neutrals\(creature_name)\,

- script file
scripts\Creature_100.lua,

- Name & description in *.txt files most likely in Text\Game\Creatures\Neutrals\(creature_name)\,

- Camera file
Cameras\Interface\HireCreatures\Creature_100.(Camera).xdb,

- AdvMapObjectLink file
MapObjects\_(AdvMapObjectLink)\Monsters\NCF\Creature_100.xdb,

- AdvMapMonsterShared file in:
MapObjects\Neutral\.

+ icon files created by editor. I did not considered more advanced modding like adding effects or changing sounds here.

Links in red are placements and file names you cannot change.


I've also made a simpliest map that shows which files link which:




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Daystar
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posted January 31, 2008 11:10 PM

+QP to Radar.
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Wulfstan8182
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posted February 01, 2008 01:59 AM

Definetly! thx radar!
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Nelgirith
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posted February 01, 2008 01:07 PM
Edited by Nelgirith at 13:09, 01 Feb 2008.

@Radar : Excellent summup !


There's just one thing (minor of course) where I disagree :

Quote:
- AdvMapMonsterShared file in:
MapObjects\Neutrals\.


MapObjects\Neutral\ was made for neutral creatures and MapObjects\Neutrals\ was made for buildings. That's where you'll find the poor Firelake that was never completed by Nival. I'm using this directory for the neutral dwellings.

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