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Mytical
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Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted January 01, 2008 12:02 PM |
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Got two things to say really. Amazing, and "Were not worthy" (Ala Bill and Ted). How you do this is beyond my comprehension. If I had a 1/10 of the talent needed for this I would consider myself very talented. I know you are a mod, but this is deffinately qp worthy.
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Message received.
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bigjocker
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Forgotten but not Forsaken
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posted January 01, 2008 02:38 PM |
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@sfidanza,
Can I use this (mod?,(first file)) in my MOD?
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sfidanza
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted January 01, 2008 03:07 PM |
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Yes and no, it depends what you mean. 
Yes, you are welcome to make your new creatures compatible with the framework I'm describing. This means, as it has been explained above:
- you tell me how many creature IDs you need
- I'll reserve them (I still have to make a public list), and tell you their number
- you use these IDs for your creatures (which means updating 2 files)
(I'll be more explicit if you need)
But you don't need to include any file from here in your mod. The framework will be released soon (hopefully this week for the final version). The idea is to spread the framework as widely as possible, not to tie it to a specific mod.
Of course, when you do release your mod, you'll be welcome to link to the framework as well. And if you want, you can even put it and your mod in one package.
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bigjocker
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Forgotten but not Forsaken
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posted January 01, 2008 03:38 PM |
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Ok...I understand. Thanx. I will see how many slots I will need
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted January 01, 2008 03:41 PM |
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and Framework is the thing where its all ready with ~300 open spaces, yes?
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How exactly is luck a skill?
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted January 01, 2008 04:19 PM |
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hey,what i did wrong,i did extract those files where they should extract,but i still didn't get more neutrals creatures to add.
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Gnoll_Mage
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted January 01, 2008 10:54 PM |
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@Wulfstan8182: read the post. The first link is the framework. The second is the test package with 2 demo mods and a test map.
@Gnoll_Mage: I don't know how crazypill found out the first time for the HoF exe, and I mostly looked for about the same bits in ToE. I can explain briefly what you have to look at, but not really why.
First, there are a number of tables which lengths are specified. Look inside data.pak/types.xml for <dbid>: those are the entry points mostly for the tables GameMechanics/RefTables/. Each has a different lengths, and they are of two types: lengths lower than 128 are stored in a signed short (1 byte - for values between -127 and 128), while lengths higher than 128 use a long integer (4 bytes)...
 Thanks very much, now I can have a poke around myself at least... let's hope crazypill pops by some time!
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sfidanza
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted January 02, 2008 12:05 PM |
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@Daystar: yes.
@WarLore: how did you try to add new creatures?
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Kronos1000
Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
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posted January 02, 2008 02:13 PM |
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A question do the short tables require the change of a second byte like the long table which requires me to change the one with C3 CC CC, because I want to add an Artifact.
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Hwær cwom mearg? Hwær cwom mago?
Hwær cwom maþþumgyfa? - 'The Wanderer'
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted January 02, 2008 02:31 PM |
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i tried to find more slots
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A Nightmare from below.A hero from Within
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted January 05, 2008 02:29 PM |
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I'd like to reserve a slot for my Living Blades.
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sfidanza
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted January 06, 2008 04:05 AM |
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@Radar: ok, slot 188 is reserved for your Living Blades.
I'll set up a page for the framework with the list soon, with the release of the 1.0 version.
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted January 06, 2008 12:08 PM |
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Edited by WarLore at 12:27, 06 Jan 2008.
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do i need extract that texture file also do add new creatures?
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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted January 06, 2008 02:36 PM |
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Edited by Orfinn at 14:47, 06 Jan 2008.
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Great job there!  Finally including and modding creatures could be a cakewalk for everyone eager to be creative!!!
I'll wait for the final version before starting ^^, Just to be sure I dont mess to much with files and such 
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Its all in the programing, I guess. Hey, I wonder if this means it will be possible to have multiple creatures per level in one town?
I love your way of thinking! You just gave me inspiration on how this could turn out:
Ok we have this standard
base creature --> alternate 1 upg - alternate 2 upg
3 x
7 levels, 21 creatures x 8 towns = 168 creatures
Now:
Could it be possible to have even more alternates per level?
base creature --> alternate 1 upg - alternate 2 upg - alternate 3 -
4 x
7 levels, 28 creatures x 8 towns = 224 creatures
Or if more per level we could return to something like Heroes 2's chaotic systems where some creatures have zero upg, some have one, another 2 and a few 3? This could be different from each town also the higher levels like the 7evens shouldnt be exclusive for like having 3 different upg. This should be for all levels. Or new towns would also be sweet! No need to push most of the 300 creatures in towns either though. Should be at least 30 neutrals of possible 120 extra...
Having our lovely shadow dragon turn into either Black, Red or Crimson dragon Crimson! Man thanks to sfidanza and with some guidance I WANT make a Crimson Dragon (orginally thinking of Twilight Dragon)
@ Sfidanza: reserve a spot for me? Are Creature spot 135, 136 or 234 taken??
135: Crimson/Twilight dragon (one of the dungeon dragon models)
136: Gold/Silver Dragon (one of the sylvan dragon models)
234: Enrager/Einherjar (either using the Berserker or Battlerager models from fortress)
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted January 06, 2008 03:44 PM |
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Calm down! lol.
Do we have to reserve slots? If so can I reserve a slot for my werewolf?
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted January 06, 2008 05:07 PM |
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@ Sfidanza: reserve a spot for me? Are Creature spot 135, 136 or 234 taken??
Any slot under 180 is taken by original creatures. Slots from 180 through 187 are taken by the first pack creatures. Slot 188 is booked by Radar and I think the 15-20 last slots are booked by Kronos1000.
I'd suggest not to book a number in the middle just because you like it. It's the best way to mess up everything.
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted January 06, 2008 05:08 PM |
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Edited by radar at 20:38, 07 Jan 2008.
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My effort:
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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted January 06, 2008 06:16 PM |
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Edited by Orfinn at 18:18, 06 Jan 2008.
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@ Sfidanza: reserve a spot for me? Are Creature spot 135, 136 or 234 taken??
Any slot under 180 is taken by original creatures. Slots from 180 through 187 are taken by the first pack creatures. Slot 188 is booked by Radar and I think the 15-20 last slots are booked by Kronos1000.
I'd suggest not to book a number in the middle just because you like it. It's the best way to mess up everything.
Ah sorry guys..I just turned overenthusiased
So which slots can be booked for me? 189, 190 and 191?
Nice swords by the way...remind me of the summon sword spell from Fable TLC.
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2ndHero
Famous Hero
Floppy Slayer
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posted January 06, 2008 06:33 PM |
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Can you reserve 21 slots for my project here.
But I'll need help for adding them to the exe, it seems quite hard to do.
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Help and suggestions needed here.
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted January 06, 2008 06:39 PM |
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When a new creature is ready, it just has to be registered, get a slot, update 2 files, and voila
I guess you don't need to mess up with the exe file.
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