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posted October 26, 2008 09:13 PM |
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More like me: 2 He: 25....
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Azagal
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posted October 27, 2008 08:28 AM |
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Edited by Azagal at 09:45, 27 Oct 2008.
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Sounds intrigueing...
Hey what do you guys say to some team matches? I mean that is if we are all online and in the mood of course .
Anyways I just wanted to ask wether we have any skilled orc players? I mean have you seen the latest screenshots for DoW 2? Considering the fact that it's supposed to be much more "tactical" and about micro the Tyranids must be a REAL pain oO. Have you seen the mobs? I personally have yet to master the art of "quantatiy over quality" so I just wanted to hear some opinions^^.+
EDIT: How do I kill broadsuits oO?!?! ARRRRGH!! They are such a pin in the behind!! Naturally I knock them out but until I get there half my squad is dead ><. Any more effective ways?
I can't send in vehicles lol they are gone in 4 shots and those pesky invisible guys keep stunning anything that comes close to the range limit oO. And yeah infrantry is simply too costly.
Invisible scouts with snipers.... not optimal.
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doomnezeu
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posted October 27, 2008 09:57 AM |
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Anyways I just wanted to ask wether we have any skilled orc players?
There is no such thing as "skilled" orc players. You either rush and win fast, or you lose, with orcs. And the only way to counter an orc rush is with Little sisters of battle.
And if you are interested in online play, I can hook you up with some friends of mine who play via hamachi, I for one ain't playing this game in multi till they fix the god damn pathfinding.
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posted October 27, 2008 10:02 AM |
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Edited by Oscarius at 10:02, 27 Oct 2008.
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Hmm in that case I might be allowed to play with u guys. Sometimes it's hard to find opponets online that aren't retardely stupid =P
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Azagal
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posted October 27, 2008 10:03 AM |
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There is no such thing as "skilled" orc players. You either rush and win fast, or you lose, with orcs. And the only way to counter an orc rush is with Little sisters of battle.
Well I have next to no playing experience with orcs. Just buy all the creatures you can get upgrade everything and then a+mouseclick and shout WAAAAAAAAAAAAGH lol. But I somewhat doubt that the only way to win with orcs is to rush. Certainly that's what they were made for but there should still be a little more to it.
Oh and I'll be looking into your offer but first I've got to get back to my old form .
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Azagal
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posted October 27, 2008 10:52 AM |
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lol.... did SoB seem to have a affinity for being broken check it out:
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Just found new 1.1 bug. Sob infantry/vechile health upgrades are applied twice now and therefore you get 56.25% health bonus instead of 25%. I play sob sometimes myself and this bullsh1t is really gamebreaking since it is pure stupid imba but not getting theese upgrades isnt a viable option too cause u will loose without them(inf hp at least). So the only option now is not to play sob. Its worse then the icon bug cause that one was just an abuse and could be avoided. Patch is meant to fix things rather then break things. Id be really pissed off if nothing will be done to fix this and fix it fast cause imo 1.0 had less gamebreaking bugs then 1.1.
Every SoB infantry unit, vehicle and building has 25% more health on top of the upgrades. LOL.
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Oscarius
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posted October 27, 2008 10:57 AM |
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Edited by Oscarius at 11:34, 27 Oct 2008.
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Auch, that hurt, srry SoB players ur still going to be kicked by people (Not by me though )
EDIT: Also, a question if any1 here is a moderetly skilled chaos player.
I got a problem with a certain tau player  and now I wonder, should I buy rhinos? They can be used as a cover for my troops and got smoke launcher, but is it really worth it?
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Oscarius
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posted November 05, 2008 06:15 PM |
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Edited by Oscarius at 18:16, 05 Nov 2008.
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A hotfix have been released for the patch (ok, most of u propobly already know this ) it fixes som minor bugs including the SoB armor bug, downloadHERE
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doomnezeu
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posted November 05, 2008 06:34 PM |
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Yes, it was about time for that, many fixes indeed, but not as many as the multiplayer addicts have hoped for.
Still, balances the game a BIT more. But still, the game is more unbalanced than DC.
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posted November 15, 2008 01:56 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 14:06, 15 Nov 2008.
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@Azagal:
Broadsides have become much more of a threat with the new patch, they have piercing value low which means that their damage spreads to other units as well... though I prefer spending my resources on two Stealth Suit teams instead. But combined they are quite a lethal combination.
Now... how to kill them? Not sure really, but remember that Broadsides lack good movement and cost quite a lot of resources and cap. I still say Scout Snipers are the best option.
Attack some other keyposition, force him to move his forces, remember that Broadsides are mainly a defense among most players (That is, for those who doesn't utilize the Devilfish/Broadside Tactics, I'm the only I've seen using it.)
@Oscarius: My Stealth Suits are gonna eat through your puny Rhinos... 
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There is no such thing as "skilled" orc players.
Ohh... I beg to differ! Orks require quite a lot of tactics actually, I have no idea how to use them properly.
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posted November 15, 2008 07:17 PM |
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I wonder if they'll ever fix the perpetually broken Necrons. Either they are too strong or too weak.
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Oscarius
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posted November 15, 2008 07:25 PM |
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I have no idea, but I think I know where the problem lie.
It's the fact that the Necrons got to few upgrades, and therefore don't scale to well as the game progresses. If they are to strong in the beggining nothing can stop them, a rush and it's over. If they are to weak or of similar strength they are like now, decent in the beginning but lose horrible in the end
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posted November 15, 2008 07:28 PM |
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Naaaah, it's rather that the few upgrades they have doesn't give anything good at all.
What's that upgrade for warriors called? Anyway, they're so weak from the beginning that the small amount of health it gives doesn't make them strong enough.
Right now the only way a Necron player can win for sure is by massing flayed ones in your base...
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posted November 15, 2008 07:36 PM |
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Actually, the upgrades give a a rather large boost to both HP and damage, however they are so dam slow that they can't use it...
Also the number of upgrades is a whopping 3 (not counting artifacts) and are rendered useless once heavy weapons hits the field, and the wraith upgrade cost more than the wraith itself.
Flayed Ones get raped by any unit with something that resembles a ranged attack. And if that unit is something like Dark Reapers or Chaos Space Marines with Plasma then the Flayed Ones don't got enough time to even scratch those buildings
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posted November 15, 2008 07:43 PM |
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Flayed Ones get raped by any unit with something that resembles a ranged attack.
Sure... but there's usually some tactic involved.
An example: Tau runs towards their base with 3 FW + TC but meets a high amount of turrets, the FW can take them out, but suddenly the Necron player summons Flayed Ones at the Tau base instead.
Lacking good turrets since he's Tau (And if he's some other faction he wouldn't screw up his eco by building them anyway) the Flayed ones meet low resistance.
Tau are forced to retreat to their base, once they get home, Flayed Ones teleport to safety.
Repeat process 
Oh, and note that I'm a noob at using Necrons... I only have the experience of getting my ass kicked by them
Lol, it's strange really... earlier anyone could use Necrons cuz they were so damn strong! Now only the über-commando-elite is able to play them effectively... and it's still just with Flayed Ones or a Monolith
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posted November 15, 2008 07:53 PM |
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However I can only see this work once or at a maximum twice, as if Flayed Ones start raining down a couple of times it's time to do something else, say tech up.
Remember Flayed Ones are rather(or very) costly and often you get to higher tiers faster than him. Therefore it may be a good idea to get some anti-building troops (for example: Your beloved Stealth-suits  ) and assult his monolith.
Also remember that deep-striking needs a spotter (I think most often that dead necron lord) so keep those "minor" units away or you're in for a "suprise".
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posted November 15, 2008 08:02 PM |
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Flayed Ones used to be great before they nerfed the morale draining. As to the warriors, they're good starting off but just don't scale well. The two upgrades are rather expensive for doing little. The wraiths... I don't even know where to begin. Maybe if they mad them a squad unit instead of one unit that excels at dying. I really liked how the latest patch reduced the rang of the immortals's resurrection. Like anybody relies on that to win the day...
The main problem with the Necrons is a lack of units. There just aren't a whole lot of different Necron units in the WH40k universe because they are already great at doing what they do. At least the Necron Lord is the most powerful commander in the game. That helps quite a bit.
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Oscarius
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posted November 15, 2008 08:18 PM |
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Yes, the Necron Lord is a really strong, with great special abilities (even if the lower levels are actually the best IMO) but he can't carry the weight of a full scale army on his metallic shoulders.
Overall, he's following the same track as the rest of the army. Good in the beginning (especially with the lighting field) but loses more and more as the game progresses. Even if he gets a decent health buff after each tier (Flayed Ones also gets this) it's not enough for a non-attachable commander to fight in later tiers.
I still think that the Necrons deserve more upgrades. say a gauss empowering upgrade which increase ranged damage of every gauss-flayer. A couple of upgrades would be in the normal Summoning Core and other in the Greater, and some maybe in the Energy Core, some real evil 
That would maybe make the Necrons a kind of "few-slow-but-very-powerful" warriors like I think it was the idea in the beginning.
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posted November 15, 2008 08:21 PM |
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I loved how they thought reducing their energy upgrades by a whopping 50 points would make a huge difference. Clearly the folks at Relic do not play as the Necrons. A savings of 100 points doesn't help that much at all.
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posted November 15, 2008 09:04 PM |
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So, we have Necrons that are severely underpowered, what's your opinion about Firewarriors?
In about 1/5 games you get the "FW IMBA u noob BO!" or something...
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