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fieldpriest
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an orthodox revolutionist
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posted April 28, 2008 11:39 PM |
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And since it is in WoW we don't have to accept it in HoMM?  If we thought this way, we should reject elves, dwarves and other creature because they were. Or, nagas, if we are going to talk aoubt something specific.
Btw: I don't like WoW  makes me bored 
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Moonlith
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
If all else fails, use Fiyah!
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posted April 29, 2008 12:27 AM |
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All in all, I'd like to ask you all about one thing: some of you may agree with the thesis that somwhere there in space may be another intelligent race. Most of us do like the sci-fi films where human meets other races. Why don't we allow fantasy world's inhabitants to meet them too? Because what? Because it would simply de-so-la-te the traditional world?
There are KAZILLIONS of games that introduce new and self-invented species, creatures, races, etc.
If you like seeing that in games, why not play those games? HoMM doesn't need that in order to be good. Heck, in my opinion, it would only make it worse.
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Bwah, I think that in this way we only will be able to receive the next generations of Heroes III clones. Ok, Heroes V. Do we reallly want to? :/
YES!
Heroes of might and magic has NEVER invented any species of their own, it merely used species and creatures existing in general lore and mythology. And in my opinion, it should NOT stray from that path.
But I'm told my opinion is outdated.
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted April 29, 2008 12:29 AM |
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Heroes of might and magic has NEVER invented any species of their own
Um, Kreegans?
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted April 29, 2008 01:42 AM |
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That's just a name for Demons, really. Yes, demons from another planet, but they are still demons. Just like Sheogh is still Hell, just with a different name.
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted April 29, 2008 04:59 PM |
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Well that's wrong. Kreegans may look and seem like Demons but they're far from that. How many Demons do you know of that literally breed like insects (in Hives), control space-age technology, happen to have been made by things called the Creators (not the Destroyers, humm?) and have a fully-functional social hierarchy instead of "me big demon, me tougher than small demon"?
Plus, we also have Snow Elves. How many of them did you see before Gelu?
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted April 29, 2008 10:33 PM |
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literally breed like insects (in Hives): BtVS s5e22
control space-age technology: Dracula 3000
happen to have been made by things called the Creators (not the Destroyers, humm?): Christian Demons
and have a fully-functional social hierarchy instead of "me big demon, me tougher than small demon"?: Demons in Dark Lord of Derkholm
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted April 29, 2008 10:34 PM |
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But where else have you seen them all in one?
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted April 29, 2008 10:42 PM |
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In Heroes III.
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted April 29, 2008 10:46 PM |
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Duh, I said where else
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted April 29, 2008 10:50 PM |
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Alright, they're a fairly new race. Let us say that they are a new take on a common race.
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How exactly is luck a skill?
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Drako_the_noob
Known Hero
Banned
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posted May 03, 2008 07:25 AM |
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I like the idea of guns in Heroes.
But only Muskets, Cannons and Riffles.
Anything which is moderner than Muskets and Cannons has no place in Homm.
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TitaniumAlloy
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Professional
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posted May 03, 2008 02:16 PM |
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Any kind of gun is completely out of theme of Heroes and has no place in any decent Heroes game.
Flamethrowers? Go play a different game.
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 03, 2008 03:23 PM |
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I agree with Drako.
Rifles and muskets and cannons etc but not some sci-fi stuff.
Sci-fi and modern stuff doesnt belong to the HoMM games.
There was muskeets etc very long ago, so why cant they be in HoMM?
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Over himself, over his own
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted May 03, 2008 03:39 PM |
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Edited by Cepheus at 15:43, 03 May 2008.
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We could argue about this for years and never come to a conclusion. Quite frankly I don't think anyone should be obliged to care what type of gun we think does or doesn't belong in Heroes, especially when most people can't even decide whether they want guns or not.
I'm against muskets and rifles and flamethrowers. Might and Magic doesn't have muskets and rifles and flamethrowers. Might and Magic has high-tech blasters and robot-Guardians.
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Drako_the_noob
Known Hero
Banned
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posted May 03, 2008 03:45 PM |
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I agree with Drako.
Rifles and muskets and cannons etc but not some sci-fi stuff.
Sci-fi and modern stuff doesnt belong to the HoMM games.
There was muskeets etc very long ago, so why cant they be in HoMM?
Yea, but only realy old riffles and muskets. I mean something like theese:
Archaic Pistol
Archaic Cannon
British musket
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Brawlermatrix
Thinking Outside the Box
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posted July 09, 2008 04:04 PM |
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Bringing Guns in to HoMM being to raise issues that was considered in the introduction of "Forge Town" in HoMM 3, this idea was considered to aline HoMM and MM closer in story line.
I find that the introduction of Guns is a considerably bad idea, this would detract from the "fantasy" line of the game and would need a great "story" or development line to even consider to introduce such a idea.
You would have to give a reason, where the "technology" came from, introduce new development trees and completely remodel the game to be "user friendly" to the idea of Guns and thus the introduction of technology in a "Fantasy" environment.
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Think outside the box and see
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podz
Hired Hero
Armageddons blade will return!
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posted July 09, 2008 04:16 PM |
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I voted no.
A game like Heroes which is set in a medieval universe shouldn't have guns. The only exceptions to this are the gremlin's weapons. Yes, technically they are guns, but I think of them more as magically powered spherical projectile launching apparatuses . Basically, they're a can with ball inside, which is launches due to a small magical explosion inside, propelling the ball out. And essentially, this is how a gun works, but I'm willing to look past it. Other than this one weapon, there should be no other projectile weapons excluding arrows/bolts and the magical shots from mages, titans etc.
they call them blunderbusses lol!!
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rdeford
Known Hero
Wyld Mapper
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posted July 09, 2008 04:17 PM |
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Bringing Guns in to HoMM being to raise issues that was considered in the introduction of "Forge Town" in HoMM 3, this idea was considered to aline HoMM and MM closer in story line.
I find that the introduction of Guns is a considerably bad idea, this would detract from the "fantasy" line of the game and would need a great "story" or development line to even consider to introduce such a idea.
You would have to give a reason, where the "technology" came from, introduce new development trees and completely remodel the game to be "user friendly" to the idea of Guns and thus the introduction of technology in a "Fantasy" environment.
I am in total agreement with each and every point made in this posting. Well thought and well said.
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 09, 2008 05:31 PM |
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Its not the same thing.
There is a clear difference between medieval guns and sci-fi stuff...
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Over himself, over his own
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espen15
Famous Hero
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posted July 10, 2008 06:07 AM |
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no because it will ruin the game, then game looks like gta 4 or ghost recon.
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