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xerox
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posted July 24, 2008 07:51 PM |
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Thats a cannon  (or looks A LOT like one)
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Over himself, over his own
body and
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted July 24, 2008 11:13 PM |
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Edited by MattII at 23:13, 24 Jul 2008.
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The first is a hand cannon from the Yuan Dynasty (1771-1368) (similar to the Gremlin one, but probably more powerful), and the second is a swivel gun from Carisbrooke Castle on the Isle of Wight (and is little more than a hand cannon on a swiveling stand, or to put it another way, a vehicle mountable hand cannon).
I see nothing wrong with a creature wielding these weapons, they'd probably do high damage, but with a low initiative.
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TheDeath
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with serious business
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posted July 25, 2008 01:30 AM |
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Edited by TheDeath at 01:30, 25 Jul 2008.
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I see nothing wrong with a creature wielding these weapons, they'd probably do high damage, but with a low initiative.
You do realize that most spells this way have to do a LOT of damage (like e.g: a lightning bolt, ouch!)
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EliteLeader
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posted July 27, 2008 12:00 PM |
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It honestly has nothing to do with technophobia. It is to do with true fantasy vs technofantasy (or post appocolyptic fantasy). It is why personally I would not like to see a forge town in heroes. Some would, yes. Just not me. Even the plane, tank, and ufo 'easter eggs' I think are in poor taste, but to each their own.
Why not have firearms, bazookas, ect? Because of the little fact of balance. Even if there was a aspect of inharent danger with the devices, lets look at the match ups shall we?
Musket vs bows. Ok muskets take a bit to load, but the range is more then compensation for that. By the time bow using creatures got in range, the fight would pretty much be over. The longbowmen at one time were considered the greatest military might on land. Until gunpowder. I realise this is a game and that realism isn't top on the list, but some sanity has to prevail at least.
Cannons Vs Ballista. Do you really need me to compair? Both take awhile to load, but one covers about 3x (at least) the distance.
Let alone if you are talking automatic fire, or such. Guns have no place in Homm. Not because I am against guns, but because of the Genre.
Lol!, you apparently don't know how bad the range of muskets were when they were just invented, you had to be way closer to your opponent then when you used a bow.
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Back to back they faced each other, Drew their swords and shot each other"
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Jormungand
Adventuring Hero
The Hammer of Hate
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posted July 27, 2008 12:12 PM |
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if bows are much better, then just let us stay with bows, might and magic
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I seek a life of honor, free from all false pride.
I will crack the whip with a bold mighty hail.
Cover me with death if I should ever fail.
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Drako_the_noob
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Banned
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posted August 09, 2008 01:59 PM |
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Guns in Heroes 6 would be great
BUT ONY MEDIEVAL GUNS AND CANNONS!
Yes, I meant Medieval guns!
I think they would be great to Haven, Academy and Dungeon. And maybe Vampires from Necropolis and/or Orcs from Stronghold shoud use them.
I meant like these:
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RedSoxFan3
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Fan of Red Sox
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posted December 08, 2008 09:29 PM |
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Arch Mages already uses high powered Laser shooting beams of destruction just like Earths' impossible to deviate laser beams. Just make sure that none of your own units are in the middle of the planned laser attack or, you might as well kill them in the process. The plain Mages are using a ball of energy just like a photon torpedo does but even more powerful than that of a mere torpedo. It does not have a limited range capability and, will kill upto 4 units in a row before disappearing off the battlefield and probably knocking down several trees in the woods before fading into nothingness.
Mini arties can have the effect of a gargoyle and a golem becoming powerful shooters. And, aren't gargoyles and golems magically empowered artificial beings such as robots are(Wizards).
Dark Elves and Light Elves possesses these laser and energy(electricity)bound beams and balls of seemingly unstoppable power.
Haven's Crossbowmen with the armor piercing' extremely missile like very long and very precise like missile projectile like arrow.
All types of Liches in the Necromancers' alignment also uses high beam powered lasers with evil cloud dispersements upon contact of the target.
The dwarves' Spearwielders ability to throw a lance as fast as light speed and ignores armory of the enemy plus, the Rune Mage can also shoot an unstoppable(by mystic resistance) ball of energy.
The Evil Eyed Cyclops has the ability to back-up and laser beam one of any attacking enemy units in the battlefield(Orcs)and, the first upgrade of the flying green(level 6)lizard beast can fry the enemy unit's stack by using high powered electricity bolts.
The Succubi Mistress can use a high powered electical energy based beam to fry the enemy unit's stack at the other end of the battlefield. The Arch Devils can both Teleport the entire stack in front of the enemy units stacks at the other end of the battlefield entirely on the first round of combat and, attack in the same time at maximum hit points' effectiveness.
So, eight out of eight factions of HoMM 5: T.o.t.E. are already using late 21st and possibly the 22nd century's extremely advanced technologically bound energy based weaponry(Star-Trek's and beyond as well). What in the world is mere gunpowder's fire explosion hand weaponry's extremely non-precise in reputation has to do with today's and tomorrow's(future's) so-called too futuristic in technology's influence onto this quite advanced game? Answer: It does not.
This is like saying that if the SS Enterprise goes back in time upto today's time frame, it's crew could get infuenced by our pre-historic like mere matter based projectile's gunpowder launched gun. Hmm...I really do not think so.
Moderator's note: This has got to take the price of most entertaining post in Community History. 
That being said, once again, I have to apply a penalty for providing faulty information, and since you obviously didn't heed my warning of last time, I've silenced you for a good time, to leave you room to contemplate your future in this community.
Yours most responsible forum moderator,
Alc.
Why did this get a penalty? This doesn't deserve a penalty... How could you say the post is entertaining and then give it a penalty?
That is just retarded. If it's so funny, then give it a bonus.
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MattII
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posted December 08, 2008 09:54 PM |
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He's got a point though. The problem is that some say they're too advanced, which shows just how little they know of early firearms, while those who do know, say they're not advanced enough to compete with magic, which rather misses the point.
In any case the Gremlin is using a gun, and magic is already more 'advanced' than guns in the first place (not counting things like the Gargoyle and the Golem), so in a sense both groups are arguing even more strongly against each other than against the centre.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted December 08, 2008 10:13 PM |
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Why did this get a penalty? This doesn't deserve a penalty... How could you say the post is entertaining and then give it a penalty?
That is just retarded. If it's so funny, then give it a bonus.
As a former mod, you should know better than just stepping up and make judgement without getting to know the conditions of the case. Luc has been multiply warned and penalized for providing faulty factual information in his so-called "strategy guides", and has been informed that providing further such mis-information will lead to further penalties. As I found this post to fall under that category, the penalty was applied, just like explained in my note in the bottom.
And did we really need to revive this thread just for that?
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RedSoxFan3
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Fan of Red Sox
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posted December 09, 2008 12:16 AM |
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I just don't see how you can compliment a post while giving it a penalty. Regardless of the situation. And I have looked at the Luc thing before.
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted December 09, 2008 09:23 AM |
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believe me, rsf, systematically giving fault information with the purpose to screw unexperienced players (because that IS what he does, without regrets and so on) is Penalty-worthy.
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Coincidence? I think not!!!!
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