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GenieLord
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Legendary Hero
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posted January 15, 2008 02:09 PM |
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HOMM is a medival game. Part of the magic on it is the fact that it's about ancient times. Therefore, Anything related to more modern times, should stay out of the game, in my opinion. Modern things will make the game to lose it's concept...
Besides, think about a battle of an archer and a gunman. Does it really sound like a fair battle? Does the archer even have a chance to win?
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted January 15, 2008 02:11 PM |
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Bringing high-tech stuff into the series would at least be somewhat familiar, what with the old universe and its sci-fi backdrop. However, Renaissance-style muskets and whatnot are totally foreign to the series in all of its incarnations. They just don't belong.
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"Those who forget their history are inevitably doomed to repeat it." —Proverb, Might and Magic VIII
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Landsknecht
Adventuring Hero
Askin' for war :p and payments
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posted January 15, 2008 02:22 PM |
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Quote:
HOMM is a medival game. Part of the magic on it is the fact that it's about ancient times. Therefore, Anything related to more modern times, should stay out of the game, in my opinion. Modern things will make the game to lose it's concept...
Besides, think about a battle of an archer and a gunman. Does it really sound like a fair battle? Does the archer even have a chance to win?
*angry* another "troglodites" for me to face 
instead of keeping old things why don'tchu give Nival team challenging things of game balance instead like what i'm giving them????
During renaissance period. the results of fights between archers and gunmen are DRAW!
archers can do indirect shot whole harquebusiers CANNOT!
nuff game designing concept??
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted January 15, 2008 04:17 PM |
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We all have our rights to have our separate oppinions - this is not a fight one part is going to win.
For my part, I like the game to evolve (just ask Moonlith, I'm constantly driving him crazy by bashing him whenever he wants to stick to previous chapters of the game) - yet still, I don't like guns in the game. And I particular does not like lazers and motorsaws at all!  I know the latter is not in question here, but for most parts, I like the fact that the game is set in an midieval setting - cf. Haven line-up and units. I think this also harmonizes best with the fantasy theme of the other factions (Sylvan, Fortress, Necropolis etc.). One could have a tech-based faction (like Gnomes), and I'm afraid it would clutter the feeling of the game more than it would add new aspects.
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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted January 15, 2008 04:32 PM |
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Hell no to guns! I dont want another Forge incident!!
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madshj
Famous Hero
Minotaur Lord
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posted January 15, 2008 05:50 PM |
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Guns could be a nice addition in the game, for maybe some little time, i dont think its a good idea to have it in a game, but if ubi could make a mod with a town with guns, FORGE! then they could finnaly take place in the world of ashan, or wherever it may be
so a mod, so you could choose, if you wanted it or not.
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bixie
Promising
Legendary Hero
my common sense is tingling!
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posted January 15, 2008 09:17 PM |
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guns in the heroes have often got a bad response from the majority, but a good response from (me included) the minority. lets way up the arguements.
anti-gun
- guns do not fit in with the heroes franchise
- people don't want another forge town, guns are the first step towards it
- what can you do with technology that you can't do with magic
- stop whining you pro-gun lobbyists, you got your gun in the form of what the gremlin is wielding.
pro-gun
+ shows evolution during the time period, and shows that there is a definate progression on the war front, and the people at home aren't sitting about like a bunch of lemons.
+ could pave the way fro a steam-punk/clockwork faction, which is entirely consevable in the heroes world.
+the original MM series (I.e MM9) had a space age style section in it, surely that gives reason to have guns in it.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted January 15, 2008 10:21 PM |
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In the history of the dark ages & mordern ages.
If you put guns in THIS game, then you would have to take out any swords, & knights etc.
Besides turrets,artillary guns etc.It just would be too funny having legionaires & gun shooters in the same game 
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Drakiir
Adventuring Hero
Got a problem with that?
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posted January 15, 2008 11:06 PM |
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I disagree there. When they went to The New World, they used swords still too.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted January 15, 2008 11:10 PM |
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I know the history but I mean creatures that are used like in Haven,Castle types from heroes past & present.
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Dreaming of a Better World
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mamgaeater
Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted January 16, 2008 01:09 AM |
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not nessesarily.
and think about alternatives.
clockwork(perpetual motion)
steam(steam powered)
magic+might(Magical weaponry)
and for the mostpart guns were far less accurate than a trained archer.
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Protection From Everything.
dota
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yasmiel
Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
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posted January 16, 2008 01:45 AM |
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In the end, we would end up with this:
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Wulfstan8182
Famous Hero
, eh?
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posted January 16, 2008 01:49 AM |
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YES!!! I, personally would like to see the Forge town in H6. it would look awesome 3D.
EDIT: Quote:
In the end, we would end up with this:
(... Images edited out to save space)
OMFG! what game is this? this is totally awesome! HoMM in space! this is awesome! tell me what game this is right now!
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Wulfstan8182
Famous Hero
, eh?
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posted January 16, 2008 02:30 AM |
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well, then, i guess you hate the game. 'cause there are guns. greamlins have guns. ballista is a relative gun. a magic wand is a magical gun. a crossbow is a relative gun.
EDIT: don't take it hard buddy. it's just that many people think of guns as modern rifles and stuff. but there are medieval muskets and stuff.
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mamgaeater
Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted January 16, 2008 02:45 AM |
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i beleive that guns are a good choice as long as the fantasy aspect is kept.
i agree wulfstan too many people think real guns would ruin the game.
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Protection From Everything.
dota
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted January 16, 2008 02:54 AM |
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The game we just got screenies for...is Heroes VK?
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How exactly is luck a skill?
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Wulfstan8182
Famous Hero
, eh?
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posted January 16, 2008 03:09 AM |
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landsknecht
Adventuring Hero
Askin' for war :p and payments
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posted January 16, 2008 12:05 PM |
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Quote:
guns in the heroes have often got a bad response from the majority, but a good response from (me included) the minority. lets way up the arguements.
anti-gun
- guns do not fit in with the heroes franchise
- people don't want another forge town, guns are the first step towards it
- what can you do with technology that you can't do with magic
- stop whining you pro-gun lobbyists, you got your gun in the form of what the gremlin is wielding.
pro-gun
+ shows evolution during the time period, and shows that there is a definate progression on the war front, and the people at home aren't sitting about like a bunch of lemons.
+ could pave the way fro a steam-punk/clockwork faction, which is entirely consevable in the heroes world.
+the original MM series (I.e MM9) had a space age style section in it, surely that gives reason to have guns in it.
the fact on this forum is... members with anti-firearms attitude behaves very aggresive in this forum. trying to push me off-board :?
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted January 16, 2008 12:15 PM |
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Edited by Mytical at 12:17, 16 Jan 2008.
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Let me stress it is not a personal thing. Though I don't like the idea, those opposed to it are not attacking you, just disagreeing. Each person has a right to their own thoughts and ideas. What they like and don't like. I have no issue with you wanting guns in Heroes. Wouldn't bother me if you wanted terminators (tm and a movie) in Heroes (not saying you do, just that it wouldn't matter if you did). Too each their own. Just personally they already have some guns in Heroes, and that is a few too many.
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landsknecht
Adventuring Hero
Askin' for war :p and payments
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posted January 16, 2008 01:00 PM |
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Quote:
Let me stress it is not a personal thing. Though I don't like the idea, those opposed to it are not attacking you, just disagreeing. Each person has a right to their own thoughts and ideas. What they like and don't like. I have no issue with you wanting guns in Heroes. Wouldn't bother me if you wanted terminators (tm and a movie) in Heroes (not saying you do, just that it wouldn't matter if you did). Too each their own. Just personally they already have some guns in Heroes, and that is a few too many.
mmmm.....
my "wish" for firearms in HEROES game is for some existing races to upgrade.... sir.
castellans (Castle factions) can have harquebusiers and musketeers fight alongside existing pikemen (they should be prone to fire magic though. i'm coming up with ideas to balance things. sir), Rodeleros, Landsknechte, priests, griffons (unless someone here says griffies should go to another faction. let's say warlock or wood elves), cavaliers, cuirassiers, and angels....
just a replacement of existing things.
and so dark elves... they are more open to technology than conservative light elves (they already have repeating crossbows) ....
and dwarves are born craftsmen. perfect race to have riflemen in the ranks...
:lol: even anti gun has no aim against me. but many of their posts sound aggressive 
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