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Heroes Community > Heroes 3.5 - WoG and Beyond > Thread: Heroes of Might & Magic III: Horn of the Abyss
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The_Horn
The_Horn


Hired Hero
posted January 16, 2012 04:42 PM

Have anyone tried to play multiplayer (gameranger) HoTA?
Can we do the same as with WoG? (rename exe to h3blade.exe) and mount it as Armaggedon's blade?

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MrKafu
MrKafu


Hired Hero
posted January 16, 2012 06:33 PM

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I wonder if anyone else has this problem :
If I live my hero inside the castle and then go back in to take it out it disappears. I can make him stay at the gate but not inside the castle.
Thank you

Never happened to me. Are you using Black Phantom's version?


same thing happens in both cases...

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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


Famous Hero
posted January 20, 2012 02:18 PM

May I suggest some features:
ERM scripting language-The powerful language of WoG would make a wonderful addition in HotA.
Divines-Not exactly the WoG "gods".There are 4 divines for each town to choose from.1 focuses on attack,1 on defense,1 in ranged and 1 in spellcasting.Every town has divines of his own(in order:attack-defense-ranged-spell):
Haven->Archangels:Michael,Raphael,Gabriel and Lucifer(in Old Bible Lucifer isn't the Devil but rather a fallen angel)
Rampart->Celtic Gods:Toutatis,Ogma,Beli Mawr,Lugh
Tower->Titans:Chronos,Gaia,Ouranos,Prometheus
Inferno->Demon Lords:Asmoday,Bezeelbub,Baal,Azazel
Necropolis->Death Gods??:
Stronghold->?????:
Fortress->????:
Conflux(elemental lords from M&M8)->Acwalander,Gralkor,Pyrannaste,Shalwend
Cove->Sea Godsoseidon,??,??,Oceanus(sea titan)
Kronverk->Norse Gods:Tyr,Heimdall,Thor,Odin
Cathedral->More angels???
Roman Town->Mars,Neptune,Apollo,Mercury
Increase Production-Seen in WOG.You could increase a creature's production by clicking on its icon at the lower left of the Town Screen.However,I would like a specific in HotA:choose how many.In WoG you could increase by basic growth only but In HotA you can increase how much you want.But increasing production is really,really expensive.
Advanced Editor-Fully incorporation of the new functions in the editor.

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LordRiton
LordRiton


Known Hero
posted January 20, 2012 07:08 PM

Hello,

I'm a long time heroes 3 player (started with H2, and played a bit H1 later too). I especially love the Wog addon (or what ever it is exactly). I play about 1 or 2 games daily (really !). I always set it at impossible against 7 computer opponents that play together against just me. I choose random towns and heroes for all (me included). I never reload when i do a mistake (and it happens offten enough).
I don't use commanders or most other adds that came with WoG, i have set WoG's options as close as possible to the original heroes 3/AB/SoD, keeping just some things i really find good improvements from WoG, like some skill ameliorations (scholar, eagle eyes...) or turrets gaining xp, or some other things.

Well, i just love that game ! It's probably the game i played the most hours in my life, and still do play it with passion !  Guess it's a bit like chess to others

I have read about Horn of the Abyss only recently, with big eyes and open moouth I really would love to play it.

But i saw it's only in Russian yet So my question is:


Is there a release date for the "addon" in english ?  I don't dare to ask for a frensh version, english would be great already


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Sorry for my miserable english, i'm french.

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Alustor
Alustor


Famous Hero
ooo da :)
posted January 20, 2012 07:36 PM

in a couple of months,i guess?

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MrKafu
MrKafu


Hired Hero
posted January 20, 2012 08:21 PM
Edited by MRKafu at 20:22, 20 Jan 2012.

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Hello,

I'm a long time heroes 3 player (started with H2, and played a bit H1 later too). I especially love the Wog addon (or what ever it is exactly). I play about 1 or 2 games daily (really !). I always set it at impossible against 7 computer opponents that play together against just me. I choose random towns and heroes for all (me included). I never reload when i do a mistake (and it happens offten enough).
I don't use commanders or most other adds that came with WoG, i have set WoG's options as close as possible to the original heroes 3/AB/SoD, keeping just some things i really find good improvements from WoG, like some skill ameliorations (scholar, eagle eyes...) or turrets gaining xp, or some other things.

Well, i just love that game ! It's probably the game i played the most hours in my life, and still do play it with passion !  Guess it's a bit like chess to others

I have read about Horn of the Abyss only recently, with big eyes and open moouth I really would love to play it.

But i saw it's only in Russian yet So my question is:


Is there a release date for the "addon" in english ?  I don't dare to ask for a frensh version, english would be great already




Good for you dude good for you
but if you play this game as much as you say you do even in Russian it won't be a problem
It is definitely not a problem for me or for lots of other people here, who have been waiting the release of Hota.


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The_Horn
The_Horn


Hired Hero
posted January 20, 2012 08:47 PM

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I don't use commanders or most other adds that came with WoG, i have set WoG's options as close as possible to the original heroes 3/AB/SoD, keeping just some things i really find good improvements from WoG, like some skill ameliorations (scholar, eagle eyes...) or turrets gaining xp, or some other things.



same here, except for turrets, but i use rebalanced creatures and heroes  though and town demolish.
It would be great to have all these options and cove town from HoT, but I'm just afraid it would be unstable and buggy, but I hope I'm wrong.

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PilotBabo
PilotBabo

Tavern Dweller
posted January 22, 2012 01:29 PM

I have problem, i installed HOTA on clean shadow of death, and when  i start, then black screen appears and go back to windows and nothing happend, what should i do? I have crashlog saved.
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Bonemaster
Bonemaster

Tavern Dweller
Back from the dead...
posted January 22, 2012 02:18 PM

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I have problem, i installed HOTA on clean shadow of death, and when  i start, then black screen appears and go back to windows and nothing happend, what should i do? I have crashlog saved.


Same thing happened to me due to some problems with Windows 7... So if you are running the game under Windows 7, try right clicking the HotA.exe, Properties - Compatibility and set it for Windows XP. Worked by me

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Darko
Darko

Tavern Dweller
posted January 23, 2012 05:22 PM

Fantastic. Finally a post 3DO/NWC add-on worthy of the HoMM logo. Thank you.
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Darko
Darko

Tavern Dweller
posted January 24, 2012 04:58 AM
Edited by Darko at 05:45, 24 Jan 2012.

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I want to remind you that WoG with all options disabled becomes SoD with ERM. HotA will be transfered to Bersy's Era. Era is based on WoG. When it's over it will be up to you whether to use WoG features or not.

Salamandre mentioned that HotA team could finish the town much earlier if they built it on WoG. That's right, though it's not really critical for a new town. But new artifacts and new objects can be easily implemented using ERM, and we definitely can't afford the luxury of hard-coding all this stuff. I believe that transferring HotA is a necessary precondition for its further development.


And I really don't care what will be the future platform, as long as I don't see ANYTHING of WoG aesthetics, including the mines, fluffy flags, funky trees, and all other grotesque things that corrupted the original Heroes and which i couldn't turn off until I got rid of the whole thing. So as long as the original heart and sole of the game is kept, with the aesthetics level achevied in HoA, I have no problem with using WoG as a platform to expand HoA even more (if needed).

But again, I must underline that I still think that HoA should go it's own path, and use other platforms only if absolutely necessary. But please, keep things simple and for Gods sake, don't wogify HoA  

All the best,

D.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
posted January 24, 2012 06:11 AM

What about moving HoTA in appropriate forum (library?), so we get rid of those endless WoG hate messages?
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Darko
Darko

Tavern Dweller
posted January 24, 2012 06:40 AM
Edited by Darko at 06:54, 24 Jan 2012.

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What about moving HoTA in appropriate forum (library?), so we get rid of those endless WoG hate messages?


I agree... HoA should have it's own category, as it is... Nobody actually hates WoG, it's just the fact that it is so invasive to the core of the game, that it needs to be differentiated as a stand-alone game.

On the other hand... If WoG's scripts will enable, and are the only way (besides VCMI) for HoA to evolve further (in terms of towns and creatures, not rules), then bring it on of course. Its simple, some people want original rules with expanded content, some like tweaking with new rules and mods (absolutely legitimate)...


D.

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MrKafu
MrKafu


Hired Hero
posted January 24, 2012 07:40 AM

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What about moving HoTA in appropriate forum (library?), so we get rid of those endless WoG hate messages?


I agree... HoA should have it's own category, as it is... Nobody actually hates WoG, it's just the fact that it is so invasive to the core of the game, that it needs to be differentiated as a stand-alone game.

On the other hand... If WoG's scripts will enable, and are the only way (besides VCMI) for HoA to evolve further (in terms of towns and creatures, not rules), then bring it on of course. Its simple, some people want original rules with expanded content, some like tweaking with new rules and mods (absolutely legitimate)...


D.


Yes! Totally agree with you. For instance I prefer more content with the same rules.
Thanks

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itsjustme
itsjustme


Promising
Known Hero
posted January 24, 2012 08:05 AM

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What about moving HoTA in appropriate forum (library?), so we get rid of those endless WoG hate messages?

The next versions of HotA would be based on a WoG+Era platform. Then you will suggest to move this thread back?
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Hundreds of DEFs

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
posted January 24, 2012 08:19 AM

We will see that in about two years from now
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Alustor
Alustor


Famous Hero
ooo da :)
posted January 24, 2012 10:30 AM

peasants,they'll never understand the course of the(h3)world

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Warmonger
Warmonger


Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
posted January 24, 2012 10:46 AM

No need to hate or separate anything, just play what you want. Currently H3 mods have well enough to offer.
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The future of Heroes 3 is here!

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DariusArgent
DariusArgent


Adventuring Hero
posted January 24, 2012 11:41 AM

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No need to hate or separate anything, just play what you want. Currently H3 mods have well enough to offer.


Truest post here.
See someone who hates what you like? Completely ignore him, after all it's his decision.

On topic: As I was lurking through df2, I found something interesting. Is it just me or the HOTA team tries to add a new landfield for Conflux?
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Darko
Darko

Tavern Dweller
posted January 24, 2012 01:09 PM

Can someone explain to me (without a cynical tone) how did they manage actually to do so much with HoA without the use of WoG as a starting point? This is truly interesting as it proves that MOD's can independently be developed solely based on SoD, without the use of WoG. Nevertheless, HoA has actually achieved many things that where (till now) said that where impossible without rewriting the whole engine and so on...

Truly epic times are ahead for Heroes! Thanks to everyone who has the ability and will to continue evolving this game for life!



D.

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