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Warmonger
Warmonger


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posted June 21, 2008 08:52 PM

The package was not able to install, all I can hope now is to not reinstall system

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted June 21, 2008 09:11 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 21:12, 21 Jun 2008.

Quote:
The package was not able to install, all I can hope now is to not reinstall system


If the package doesn't able to install this is caused by the system surly still because few DLL is used in same time

You know..there are always risk to manipulate DLL files...

and I'm sorry that you live this situation...

I hope too that a reinstallation of system will not require..

By chance, the majority of the DLLs are not important for the system.


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cotillion
cotillion


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posted June 21, 2008 11:53 PM
Edited by cotillion at 00:00, 22 Jun 2008.

I get similar error as Warmonger when trying to open a map with RTMG AdvMap tool:



(german: means "Runtime error 3420" Object invalid or not defined"

So far the creation of a template with RTMG beta works ok.
In ToTE the generation of a map with this template works ok.


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LarkinVB
LarkinVB


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posted June 22, 2008 10:06 AM

Same here. Runtime error 3420 at the end of processing a map created with a RTMG template.

Btw do need to install the H5_Game.NCF.exe from the NCF archive ?

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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posted June 22, 2008 04:00 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 03:33, 23 Jun 2008.

I started to work on the bugs RunTime 3420 and 3421.

But before putting a link on a debugging file

I need more precise informations.

I would like to know exactly at which time the bug occurred and
which actions you had very right front fact (just before the bug)


This bugs are fixable and I want to fix them.


Quote:
Btw do need to install the H5_Game.NCF.exe from the NCF archive ?


Yes, If you want to play a map with NCF Creatures, you need it, you must run the game with it.


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LarkinVB
LarkinVB


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posted June 22, 2008 06:54 PM

I create template, than map.

I press AdvMap -> Generate -> Load Map. The processing bar goes up to about 80% or 85%, then error 3420.

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cotillion
cotillion


Hired Hero
posted June 22, 2008 07:51 PM

Quote:
I create template, than map.

I press AdvMap -> Generate -> Load Map. The processing bar goes up to about 80% or 85%, then error 3420.


I can confirm this, error 3420 always occurs when close to finishing the loading process

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Warmonger
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posted June 22, 2008 07:54 PM

For me it doesn't even start, just crashes as soon as I click "generate".

BTW, I noticed that every connection in template is guarded with a strenght of 20. Kinda sucky.

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SimonaK
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posted June 23, 2008 03:10 AM
Edited by SimonaK at 03:44, 23 Jun 2008.

Good and Thanks.

I will consider this informations in my investigation

I also will need you to test a RTMG.exe (debugging mode) on your computers.

This special .exe will generate a report that you will send me after running.

Soon, I'll be back to ask your help to run this special .exe


Quote:
For me it doesn't even start, just crashes as soon as I click "generate".


You even don't see a common dialog box of opening file?


Quote:
BTW, I noticed that every connection in template is guarded with a strenght of 20. Kinda sucky.


Ya, It's a fact and voluntary but, don't be anxious with it. This is a really good balancing.

Anyway, the strenght increases with the time.

No heroes can open a connection before 3 weeks average..

(exception if a "good" armies joined him)

That was not used for nothing to handle different values with the connections's strenght

maybe good for a template made at hand..but not really for a random template


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Morphem
Morphem


Hired Hero
posted June 23, 2008 09:43 AM

getting the 3420 error as well
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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted June 23, 2008 05:43 PM

Hey morphem!

Perhaps the best for you is to go to play at Super Mario Bros 1 in your cave.



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Morphem
Morphem


Hired Hero
posted June 24, 2008 02:00 AM

Quote:
Hey morphem!

Perhaps the best for you is to go to play at Super Mario Bros 1 in your cave.





Nah i'd rather go outside & feed quebecois to the grizzlies on this sunny day.

Btw, a friend tried it on a french vista version ( admin exec. )  & got the same error.
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SimonaK
SimonaK


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posted June 25, 2008 04:00 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 16:01, 25 Jun 2008.

Quote:
Nah i'd rather go outside & feed quebecois to the grizzlies on this sunny day.

Btw, a friend tried it on a french vista version ( admin exec. )  & got the same error.




You are entirely reason.

I completly misunderstood your post and i'm deeply sorry for this.

I give you my total excuses.

The English language is not my maternal one and sometimes I understand with wrong.

I noticed that you have same error.

I'm working to fix Runtime Error 3420 and 3421

It will fix enough soon.



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Morphem
Morphem


Hired Hero
posted June 26, 2008 12:12 AM

No problem

Your RTMG is going to be great, cant wait to try it.

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Warmonger
Warmonger


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posted June 26, 2008 08:41 AM
Edited by Warmonger at 09:00, 26 Jun 2008.

Is it likely that your RMG converter works with other maps, just like ones from Tapani? This could be pretty sick

Also, the staring zones in templates are pretty repeatable - 2wood / ore mines, 2 abandoned mines, dwellings tier 1 to 4. It may takes ages to find a precious resource mines, on XL map I don't have ANY in month 4, but could have defeat opponent by this time

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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posted June 27, 2008 04:18 AM
Edited by SimonaK at 05:37, 28 Jun 2008.

Quote:
Is it likely that your RMG converter works with other maps, just like ones from Tapani? This could be pretty sick


One of the RTMG's greatest forces is in being able to transform any H5 map, no matter where this map is coming from. (H5 RMG, Human, Tapani, Others RMG, etc etc)

so yes it does...

Quote:

Also, the staring zones in templates are pretty repeatable - 2wood / ore mines, 2 abandoned mines, dwellings tier 1 to 4.


Mines? ya... a template is created with mine settings...

So, all players has a same setting starting zone in aim of total balancing. Excepts that objects can be differents. H5's RMG change, anyway, objects from a tag value template (UpgBuildingsDensity, LuckMoralBuildingsDensity, TreasureBuildingPoints, etc etc) and each time you re-use this template.

At one time and for the same settings, a player may have a Blackmarket while another player may have instead, a Tranding Post and a Elemental Conflux.

I know you don't read French but I realized a big analyze of template mechanics, last december.

http://www.archangelcastle.com/acforum/viewtopic.php?t=5059

Moreover, my post is even linked in a HC topic By LarkinVB on January 19, 2008 in the following topic

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=24893

Several zones may have same values but when the map is generated, objects are differents.

Anyway, you can use a random template from RTMG without to transform the map created by H5 from this template, if you want. but it's not a good idea.

Because, RTMG makes random templates in the aim that maps created by this templates will be transform by RTMG after. (Except for now, that's crash)

And too because H5 RMG maps sucks!

Dwelling 1 to 4?

And?

You forget NCF neutral dwelling...and secondary players zones may offers the 7 dwellings....

You talk about 2 abandoned mines, but the number can changes for each template generation. a zone may have 3, 4 or 5 abandoned mines, whanever.

Quote:

It may takes ages to find a precious resource mines, on XL map I don't have ANY in month 4, but could have defeat opponent by this time


but RTMG removes all mines in AdvMap processing....

In a RTMG map, resources is given by creatures after fight.

No resources and mines on ground. (Except Abandoned Mines who may give other than gold, Except chests too)

You want resources? go to fight.

The give of resource is ultra balancing. if you fight every days never you will miss resources.

You can search and hope and find abandoned mines and exploited it.

You can find Horn of Plenty too, or a bag of gold, etc etc...


Why remove Resources?

only to use their positions to add new objets that H5 RMG isn't adding by itself.

You know this objects as:

Quote:

Den of Thieves
Dwarven Warren
Eldritch Well
Eye of the Magi
Hut of the Magi
Lake of the Scarlet Swan
Magma Shrine
Obelisk
Redwood Observatory
Sanctuary
Seer Hut
Sphinx
Spring of Eldritch Renewal
Stables
Sylanna's Ancients
Tavern
Tear of Asha
The King's Mausoleum



And also the other objects like all of the NCF Creatures along with those with their Neutral Dwellings.

This is why we remove resources on the ground.

RTMG makes template with setting of resources value not to pick up resources, but rather to add new objects......

Ok, there is no more real mines, so what??

You want resources? Fighters fight.

Creatures provide them



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Tavern Dweller
posted June 28, 2008 01:19 AM

i got the 'Run-Time Error '3031': Not a Valid Password' when i try to open the RTMG

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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posted June 28, 2008 01:46 AM
Edited by SimonaK at 01:47, 28 Jun 2008.

Quote:
i got the 'Run-Time Error '3031': Not a Valid Password' when i try to open the RTMG



I was to seek on the Web, how to fix runtime error 3031

and I think that I found.

I will provide a new .exe soon



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Tavern Dweller
posted June 28, 2008 02:34 AM

thanks

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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posted June 28, 2008 07:27 AM

Ok, those which live errors with their RTMG, for which, it crashs

I reedited my first post by adding the Helping to fix RTMG Errors part.

Go to read it and follow the steps to know if that fix your bug
or follow the steps to help to fix your bug.

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