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Thread: Updated NCF thread [ This thread is 55 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 (17) 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 ]
SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted November 20, 2008 04:26 PM

Quote:
I could not resize it, but it would be cool if it was big


yes.


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Fedain
Fedain

Tavern Dweller
posted November 21, 2008 11:44 AM

I got a question, too simple to create another topic...

Is it possible of anybody to create an "All-in-one" pack with all creatures already made and NCF core?
It'd be much easier to install for new NCF-users. The reason I didn't do it myself is that I guess it'd be much easier for a person with NCF creatures already downloaded and installed.

Yes, I saw somewhere a link to quite similar compilation, but I remember I couldn't download it (it was broken or outdated) - so if anyone have link to this, please enlighten me ;]

Thanks in advance
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TSoD
TSoD


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Famous Hero
NCF Blacksmith
posted November 21, 2008 12:06 PM

Ask SimonaK with his RMTG
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TSoD
TSoD


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Famous Hero
NCF Blacksmith
posted November 21, 2008 01:52 PM

There I am. Impossible to do a mounted huntress, because the bear model is too... "beary", even completely retextured. Then, for later, with model editing with maya.
BUT I coose another way : make a Huntress from Kujin unmounted model !!



As you can see, I'm putting clothes on her, and I'll change colors, change face and eyes color, add a rotating "spirally"-blade in each hand. Then the stick will disappear, only a weapon in each hand. The weapons model and anim will be the rotating symbol of under the heroes, but glued to a bone and with a blade-like texture, like the warcraft III Huntress weapon.
It will look good, I'm sure
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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted November 21, 2008 05:02 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 01:33, 22 Nov 2008.

Quote:
Ask SimonaK with his RMTG


RTMG Random (Template) Map Generator

This project is still working (version for ToE 3.1 with water random maps)

Its stade is "closed beta testing"

RTMG has a AdvMapObject Importer, so you will be able to import NCFs in random maps.

However, RTMG will not provide NCF pack. You will be able to use RTMG with or without NCF.

The choice to use them belong to users by importing them or not in the RTMG

for RTMG, NCF is just a little part of it-self.

OK, I have all NCFs.

and even if this fact started with my RTMG project,
now RTMG doesn't need anymore NCF to work.

You want NCF in RTMG? Then use its AdvMapObject Importer.


an All-In-1 NCF pack? .... I have It.... this pack does 84 megabytes and there is the 162 NCF created for now.

I disadvise the creation of this pack from directly ALL NCF in HC's links because a good quantity of NCF has unfixed bugs.
(bad reference, syntax mistake, missing animation, etc etc etc)

TSoD, like for HC I know your NCF bank provides somes NCF
which don't perfectly work or not of all in the game because are bugged versions.

Warmonger, I don't know why you don't do it but you could be to write a notice on the right of a NCF
when it is bugged and especially when it doesn't work in the game.

For my share, I personally fixed all their bugs in my computer.

And I will not release my fixed versions. I may post how to fix. that's it.

So it isn't you have RTMG you have all NCF and vice-versa.

P.S.

It's true that my RTMG's first version needed the 43-in-1 NCF pack I done.
These 43 creatures are ones of the first creation tide (January 2008)

I done it to show that RTMG is able to incorporate NCF in random maps.

Now, RTMG is enough great to import them from their own pack.

But my "famous" pack was a "all-fixed bugs" version because already some of these 43 NCFs was bugged when released and they are it still.

I always fixed my-self NCF bugs since beginning of them.

and that because I wanted to guarantee that all NCF are fixed in maps from first RTMG version.


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TSoD
TSoD


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NCF Blacksmith
posted November 22, 2008 03:53 AM

Plese Sim, may you tell us exactly which ones are bugged please ? I'll fix that on my NCFBank.
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TSoD
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Famous Hero
NCF Blacksmith
posted November 22, 2008 05:46 AM

Here is my huntress. NOT FINISHED. There remains the top, the feet and the hands.
Plus other clothes.

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted November 22, 2008 11:24 AM

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Plese Sim, may you tell us exactly which ones are bugged please ? I'll fix that on my NCFBank.


Sorry, I did'nt create a bugged NCF log.

I forgot some of them.

The best way to know is to try for each of them to see it in a map.

Anyway...I don't understand why you put a NCF as a link without to test to ensure it is without bug.

Moreover, RTMG is able to detect a lot of kind of bug but not all.

So RTMG isn't a solution to know completly if the NCF is correct but it can help.

RTMG doesn't want to import anything in its database it's why it rejects NCF when it detects few kind of bugs or it can automatically fix.




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TSoD
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NCF Blacksmith
posted November 22, 2008 12:51 PM

Yes...

I'm about to finish her !!
it remains still 3 little graphic bugs and the weapons in each hand.

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted November 22, 2008 12:55 PM


I like more this texture




http://psatkha.narod.ru/creature_235.html


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TSoD
TSoD


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Famous Hero
NCF Blacksmith
posted November 23, 2008 05:58 AM
Edited by TSoD at 06:25, 23 Nov 2008.

I know this creature, you know. I don't understand why you show me that : it has no link with my creature. If it is to demean me, you weren't obliged

If you prefer her because she is almost naked, it's you choice...
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Radar
Radar


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Legendary Hero
the honest one
posted November 23, 2008 06:00 AM

Yeah, definitely women with necks are ugly.

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Warmonger
Warmonger


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Legendary Hero
fallen artist
posted November 23, 2008 06:03 AM
Edited by Warmonger at 06:04, 23 Nov 2008.

ROTFL

Wait a moment, I'll find a photo gallery of hot chicks with no heads

As to bug reports... I have no more time neither will to babysit support all NCF creators, so it's up to you how do you make it. All I may do is to leave feedback.

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TSoD
TSoD


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Famous Hero
NCF Blacksmith
posted November 23, 2008 06:26 AM

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Yeah, definitely women with necks are ugly.


Indeed ;p
=>Corrected, I wanted to say "Naked"
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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted November 23, 2008 12:19 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 12:29, 23 Nov 2008.

I never said something about "nake" when I showed this picture.

Sorry if someone decided to think in this direction but it wasn't obligatory.

I speak about color. I find purple is already used a lot (ex: 3rd stronghold upgrade)

and mixing purple color and "night", I think that begins to be enough


anyway, about nake, even purple, the firts creature doesn't really have clothes.


you're nice to be attentive to my opinions.

EDIT:

Other thing: if the community doesn't see any disadvantage to provide bugged NCFs,
I will not fight anymore against this will.

I know the majority of NCF creator are professional and fix their bugs.


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TSoD
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Famous Hero
NCF Blacksmith
posted November 26, 2008 08:51 AM
Edited by TSoD at 08:55, 26 Nov 2008.

Yeah ! It looks cool with their rotating blades


Yes they rotate all the time But, as they have no SkelAnim (the model is alone-no need of anim to rotate, I don't know why), I can't unluckily increase the speed of rotation. It has the same speed that the rotating symbol under the heroes.
It already that...

Are these stats ok and balanced ?

<AttackSkill>28</AttackSkill>
<DefenceSkill>24</DefenceSkill>
<Shots>0</Shots>
<MinDamage>35</MinDamage>
<MaxDamage>42</MaxDamage>
<Speed>7</Speed>
<Initiative>11</Initiative>
<Flying>false</Flying>
<Health>99</Health>
<KnownSpells/>
<SpellPoints>0</SpellPoints>
<SpellPoints1>999</SpellPoints1>
<SpellPoints2>0</SpellPoints2>
<Exp>162</Exp>
<Power>3621</Power>
<TimeToCommand>10</TimeToCommand>
<CreatureTier>7</CreatureTier>
<MagicElement>
<First>ELEMENT_EARTH</First>
<Second>ELEMENT_WATER</Second>
</MagicElement>
<WeeklyGrowth>1</WeeklyGrowth>
<Cost>
<Wood>0</Wood>
<Ore>0</Ore>
<Mercury>0</Mercury>
<Crystal>1</Crystal>
<Sulfur>0</Sulfur>
<Gem>0</Gem>
<Gold>2715</Gold>
</Cost>
<Abilities>
<Item>ABILITY_INVISIBILITY</Item>
<Item>ABILITY_BERSERKER_RAGE</Item>
<Item>ABILITY_MANA_STEALER</Item> (is it the one of the imp that give ennemy hero 's mana to our hero ?)
<Item>ABILITY_SEDUCE</Item> (Please, how to create icon for spell book ? I have the icon, but not the method to link them to the spell book of my creature...)
</Abilities>
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Asheera
Asheera


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Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
posted November 26, 2008 08:54 AM

I think she has too low Hit Points for a tier 7 (and probably damage)
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TSoD
TSoD


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Famous Hero
NCF Blacksmith
posted November 26, 2008 09:09 AM

You're right.
I'm going to increase damage and HP.
=> The spellbook works fine !! And it is very powerful as creature : Make her invisible then displace her somewhere nearby an ennemy. Next turn, activate Berserker Rage... I 've just try : it is madness
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TSoD
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Famous Hero
NCF Blacksmith
posted November 26, 2008 10:23 AM
Edited by TSoD at 10:24, 26 Nov 2008.



Now the ears are set, it may be released, no ?
Watch the updated stats :
<AttackSkill>32</AttackSkill>
<DefenceSkill>27</DefenceSkill>
<MinDamage>45</MinDamage>
<MaxDamage>61</MaxDamage>
<Health>186</Health>
<Power>5000</Power>
<Gold>3715</Gold>
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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted November 26, 2008 11:57 AM

it is interesting. the only problem according to me is it doesn't look like a level 7 creature. (does she look like she can beat a dragon?)

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