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Warmonger
Warmonger


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posted September 03, 2008 03:23 PM bonus applied by VokialBG on 04 Sep 2008.
Edited by VokialBG at 07:27, 16 Aug 2010.

[NCF Project] Updated New Creatures Framework thread



Since the NCF Project page does not get updated at all as well as its old topic on this forum, I'm starting a new thread which will be kept up to date for sure.

First of all, NCF 3.1 from our tallented friend SimonaK
New Creatures Framework 3.1. Description included.

NCF Mega pack with 188 working creatures

Avaliable Creatures:

180-187 - Thunderbird, Suzaku, Plague Treant, Apocalypse Knight, Undead Cyclops, Ballista, Winterwolf, Worg aka. Nelgirith Creatures Pack
188 ----- Arcane Blades by Radar
189-193 - Elemental Giants by Shadow of Death
194-199 - creatures by Psatkha
200-203 - Elementals Upgrades(2) by Samigina
204-207 - Elemental upgrades by Dark Crystal
208 ----- creature by Psatkha
209-211 - Dark Angels by Morrock
212 ----- Enchanter 2.0 by Radar
213 ----- Sun Warrior by Gnoll Mage
214-216 - Basilisk, Greater Basilisk and Salamander by Cepheus
217 ----- creature by Psatkha
218-219 - Magic Daggers & Runic Axes by Shadow of Death
220-249 - creatures by Psatkha
250-272 - Tales of Karador - Nexus faction by Kronos
273-275 - Shadow Daughters by Morrock
276 ----- Templar and Evil Sorceress by Radar
277 ----- creature by Psatkha
278 ----- Heretic by Nelgirith
279-281 - Souls by Morrock
282 ----- Planeswalker by Gnoll Mage
283 ----- Runelord by Radar
284 ----- Dark Champion by Radar
285-287 - Guardians by Morrock
288-289 - creatures by Psatkha
290 ----- ???
291 ----- Crystal Dragon 1.01 by Radar
292-293 - creatures by Cepheus
294-295 - Mummy Upgrades by Disturbed-Gnu
296 ----- creature by Nelgirith
297 ----- Azure Dragon (doubling creature?) - by Wulfstan8182
298 ----- Skeleton Mage by Radar
299-301 - Crusaders - by 2ndHero
302 ----- Illusionist - by Radar
303 ----- Elven Cavalry - by Radar
304 ----- Rakshasa Vetala by Shadow of Death
305 ----- Catapult - by Softmama
306 ----- ??? by Softmama
307 ----- ??? by Shadow of Death
308-310 - ??? by Kartan
311 ----- Royal Basilisk by Fauch
312 ----- Ghost Knight by Fauch
313 ----- Guardian Idol by Fauch
314-324 - Sharpshooter, Enchanter, Ice Demon, Venom Spawn, Azure/Rust/Faerie Dragon, Battle/Earth/Fire/Ice Titan - by E-Lysander
325 ----- Magog by Eugen Cosmarul
326-382 - New Alternative Upgrades by Fauch & others
383 ----- MystoDragon by Fauch
384 ----- Ninja by Fauch
385 ----- Omega Dragon(!?) by Fauch
386 ----- Power Mage (two versions) by Fauch
387 ----- Centaur Captain by Fauch
388 ----- Abyss Angel 1.1 by Fiur
389 ----- Balrog 1.1 by Fiur
390 ----- Abyss Princess 1.1 by Fiur
391 ----- Royal Guard by VokialBG
392 ----- Naga by Eugen Cosmarul
393-394 - Wisp and Wisp Elder by Shadow of Death
395 ----- Medusa by Fauch
396 ----- Plague Wisp by Shadow of Death
397-398 - Walkyries by Shadow of Death
399 ----- Mistress of The Dead by Shadow of Death
400 ----- Ghost Charger by Fauch
401 ----- Blood Hound by Fauch
402 ----- Samurai by Drh3ll
403 ----- Magma Giant (Pyromancer upgrade) by The Shadow of Death
404 ----- Stone Demon by Fauch
405 ----- Sea Golem by Shadow of Death
406 ----- Dopelganger by Fauch
407 ----- Aquamancer by Drh3ll
408 ----- Ice Dragon by Fauch
409 ----- Spiritual Cherub by The Shadow of Death
410 ----- Moloch by Eugen Cosmarul
411 ----- creature by Drh3ll
412 ----- Death Angel by Dark Crystal
413 ----- Grunt by The Shadow of Death
414 ----- Spirit Elemental by The Shadow of Death
415 ----- Garuda by Fauch
416 ----- Night Elf Archer by The Shadow of Death
417 ----- Rakshasa Shiva by The Shadow of Death
418 ----- High Lich by Fauch
419 ----- Night Elf Huntress by The Shadow of Death
420 ----- Mimic Crystal by Fauch
423 ----- Wizard King by Fauch
424 ----- Bean Sith by The Shadow of Death
425 ----- Telluric Golem : Geomancian 1st upgrade
426 ----- Sylvan Golem : Mother Nature's Protector 1st upgrade
427 ----- Snowflake Golem : Atlante 2nd upgrade ^all by The Shadow of Death
428 ----- Centaur Defender by ArchWarl0ck
428-459 - creatures by Psatkha
460-462 - Lost mages by drh3ll
462-465 - creatures by drh3ll
...
496 ----- Lycanthrope 1.1 by SimonaK
497-498 - Zenithales 1.1 by SimonaK
499 ----- creature by SimonaK
500 - 501 Ballista upgrades by SimonaK & The Shadow of Death
502 ----- Lucky Charm by SimonaK
...
666 ----- creature by SimonaK
...
700 - 755 Fourth alternative upgrades (?!)
...
999 ----- Memory Mentor by SimonaK
999 ----- current NCF capacity


Others:
All creatures available in random stacks by SimonaK
Fast Levels for NCF 3.1 MOD by BAD
NCF Editor links
Creature power calculator by The Shadow of Death
New skin for Thunderbird by Disturbed - Gnu

Links:
NCF Wiki
Archangel Castle (french)
NCF Bank
Random Template Map Generator by SimonaK

Every help and links are welcome.


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Fauch
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posted September 03, 2008 03:53 PM

new alternative upgrades : 326 to 382
omega dragon : 385
ninja : 384

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SimonaK
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posted September 03, 2008 04:06 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 16:15, 03 Sep 2008.

Nice initiative your thread Warmonger

also, I invite everybody to visit the Shadow of Death's new NCF site:

http://ncfbank.ifrance.com/

http://ncfbank.ifrance.com/French/NCFDownloads.php

in both languages.


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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted September 03, 2008 04:09 PM
Edited by Disturbed-Gnu at 16:14, 03 Sep 2008.

Thanks
Great idea! I was wondering why there wasn't any NCF 3,1 lists yet!

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Warmonger
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posted September 03, 2008 04:14 PM

Ok, everything fixed. I put both finished and planned mods on one list to have clarity which slots are occupied and which appear wasted

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SimonaK
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posted September 04, 2008 03:03 AM

Hello Warmonger,

Here some infos:

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188 not free, these creatures exist:

Magic Daggers (218) has its upgrades

Arcane Blades (188) and Runic Axes (219)

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204-207 - Elementals Upgrades (?) by Samigina

Not 204-207 but 200-203  ..and not free..

fire and earth upgrades don't exist yet

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Is not in list:

283 RuneLord by Radar

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304 is not free, this creature exists.

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311 is Royal Basilisk and not Basilisk

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some creatures can be downloaded from NCF bank

apart, the list seems good.


Fauch..

are you interested by the idea to create 2 fire elemental upgrades and 2 earth elemental upgrades to complete NCF elementals group?





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Radar Online
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posted September 04, 2008 10:56 AM

I say QP for Warmonger.
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VokialBG
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posted September 04, 2008 11:37 AM
Edited by VokialBG at 11:39, 04 Sep 2008.

quote:
I say QP for Warmonger.


I agree. After everything was fixed it deserve it
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Please keep this list updated, or send me HCM when it needs update.
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Cepheus
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posted September 04, 2008 11:44 AM

Nice list, however I think you've overlooked the Salamander at 216.
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Warmonger
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posted September 04, 2008 11:53 AM
Edited by Warmonger at 11:54, 04 Sep 2008.

Ohh, thank you so much! It's my first QP, I'm glad someone appreciates it.

Now Cepheus, you could give me some link as well.

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posted September 04, 2008 12:03 PM

Umm?  What should I link to?
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Warmonger
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posted September 04, 2008 12:07 PM
Edited by Warmonger at 12:07, 04 Sep 2008.

I meant Salamander, but just found them on a board. The previous link led to another source I think.

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posted September 04, 2008 12:31 PM
Edited by radar at 12:44, 04 Sep 2008.

http://ncfbank.ifrance.com/French/NCFDownloads.php

Oh great I can find there my Enchanter with description written even when I haven't invented one

Just sheesh

I just noticed some noobish guy added an completely unnecessary abilities text files

Don't you French people have a grain of honour


to prevent some misunderstandings original radar's ncfs only in his threads on HeroesCommunity.com


have a nice day
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SimonaK
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posted September 04, 2008 01:10 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 13:37, 04 Sep 2008.

VokialBG, please, do something!

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VokialBG
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posted September 04, 2008 01:29 PM

Don't start this here please, keep it on HCM's...
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SimonaK
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posted September 04, 2008 04:40 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 17:22, 04 Sep 2008.

OK,

I know that few slots are reserved for nothing,

because NCF creator will not work anymore the creature.

I suggest to remove reserved slots from list and to attribute
in real time the ID slot at creators.

no more reserved slot, just real used slots.

While creature developping, the creator uses the ID he wants and he can for his tests.

But,

While the creature is ready to be released, the creator must asked available ID slots, here
or take a new if he knows it is free.

Several creators can work in same time and each of them, when he is ready to release,
will modify the « CREATURE_ID » to the real one, before.

So, no slots will be reserved for nothing.

reserved become exactly used ones

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Cepheus
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posted September 04, 2008 05:24 PM

quote:
I suggest to remove reserved slot from list and attribute
in real time the ID slot at creators.

no more reserved slot, just real used slots.


I don't agree with this.  Reserving slots is the best and fairest way - especially for bulk mods where multiple NCFs are being made (example; how would you like it if you had 19 out of 20 new creatures to release, then someone comes along and takes one of the nineteen IDs you've already assigned to the finished ones?  madness) and it's not like there's a shortage of IDs or anything.  Also, if you're referring to my two unused slots, they are going to be occupied by ToK.

Anyway, if you're going to enforce this regardless, please ask the modders who have already reserved slots.  Perhaps they've forgotten or can't be bothered, but at least you'll get an answer.  Most of them are still active on their respective forums.

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SimonaK
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posted September 04, 2008 05:28 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 17:39, 04 Sep 2008.

OK, you're also right.

But,

I know that few slots are really reserved for nothing.

anyway, last creatures which was created didn't need to reserve a slot. It just took it on the hit.





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VokialBG
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posted September 05, 2008 02:32 AM
Edited by VokialBG at 05:36, 05 Sep 2008.

I agree with Cepheus, we don't even need this, lets first full all slots to 499, before thinking for this... (Were the Mummy upgrades by Nelgirith - 294-296 - released?)
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Warmonger
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posted September 05, 2008 04:50 AM

I'm afraid most of the older projects got dead, but don't talk about what does not exist. If I see the creature, I'll add it to the list - how simple.
For example, I added Abyss(al) Angel and Balrog to the list as they're ready and just waiting for their NCF version which will show up when Radar finds some time.

Now somebody (me?) could update the mod list thread as well, it's just a terrible mess in there It's discouraging both for players and creators.

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