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Lexxan
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Unimpressed by your logic
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posted November 06, 2008 04:40 PM |
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Saturday, you'll meet your doom, Azzie.
I don't think so. Ossir is banned here you know 
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted November 06, 2008 07:03 PM |
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The tournament will be delayed till Sunday.
I have asked Zilonite to have a look and help me improve balance. As the creator of arena that has been thoroughly tested he should have a good idea on how to fix artificer and maybe correct other things that may have escaped my notice.
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Final_Boss
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The Necropope
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posted November 07, 2008 12:23 AM |
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Here are the replays I said:DOWNLOAD
I hope they help somewhat.
In my opinion divine imbalance must be removed… I don’t even know why after a lot of map versions it is still there. And those lvl 3 mini-artifacts are too much considering you have more than enough resources for them all.
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted November 07, 2008 01:28 AM |
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Most of those cases were divine imbalance rather than academy imbalance but I get the idea  It's not so much troublesome with other races except maybe dungeon and sylvan because of druids but there is little doubt that it must be removed. Tried to reintroduce it in the new version as an experiment, consider it failed.
A few replays of mine. One against haven, another vs inferno and finally stronghold. The last one was for some laughs, first time I manage cape, skull of Markal, rune axe and necklace of victory with armageddon abuse  Academy has pendant of mastery that is worth 10k in the marketplace so I'll be removing it. As for the resources I'll see what zilo has to say.
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blizzardboy
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Nerf Herder
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posted November 07, 2008 01:43 AM |
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Academy has pendant of mastery that is worth 10k in the marketplace so I'll be removing it.
Awwwwww darn, I hadn't said anything this entire time in hopes that nobody would bring it up  Oh well, there goes my artifact-loaded academy career.
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adon
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posted November 07, 2008 05:59 AM |
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Just be careful you don't over nerf! Academy takes a lot of skill to be played well unlike some factions due to its broad range of strategies available with mini-arties, motw, and library of spells making any school of magic usable. Adaptability to counter various factions takes using all of their skills.
Unrelated, versus Haven, that giant stack of paladins is tough to take down. Dark is necessary with a few non-might factions but if you have no way to cleanse and the knight gets a vampirism on it (no frenzy/blind/puppet), its been game over. Although I have been playing against myself..maybe I'm just too dumb to think of better counters. 
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Azagal
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Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted November 07, 2008 08:26 AM |
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The Paladins are tough for some factions very though but they are still managable. Atleast that is my personal experience. But yeah they can be a reaaaal paín in those numbers.
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted November 07, 2008 11:22 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 11:29, 07 Nov 2008.
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A temporary version 2.6, a few tweaks away from the final one.
* Divine vengeance banned. Though would be nice to kill 15 champions after they charge
* Removed helm of the necromancer from wizard.
* Pendant of mastery removed.
* Resources changed to 60 wood/ore and 100 of the precious ones. This is roughly 25% less than before if you also count the pendant's half cost.
With those and buying some destructive/light spells I could make 2 good lvl 3(att/init/def), 2 weaker lvl 3(init/hp/armour breaking and init/hp/speed) and rest were lvl 2. Looks like a good compensation for now, hope it wasn't too much.
Edit: About vampirism there is always the cleansing from mages, they cannot be resurrected by archangels, can be mirrored to the academy army and they lose their good morale. The problem is that you have to focus on them while the others are advancing as well.. What I fear more is magical immunity.
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Asheera
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Elite Assassin
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posted November 07, 2008 02:43 PM |
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I had this feeling Divine Vengeance will be banned eventually...
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Arcax
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Famous Hero
Its quite hot inside...
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posted November 08, 2008 12:26 PM |
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If I'm correct I'll be facing Acadamy in my first game -_-
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Asheera
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Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted November 08, 2008 02:28 PM |
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You're right, I think you will
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TheDeath
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Undefeatable Hero
with serious business
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posted November 08, 2008 02:31 PM |
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Double casting + consume artifacts + such amazing mini artifacts (+25% initiative LOL!!) is awesomely imba. Someone would have to play really bad to lose with academy on this map.
I agree. I don't understand why it needs to have the full mini-arties on all creatures at level 3 
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted November 08, 2008 03:07 PM |
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I don't understand what is your point since I changed it
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Asheera
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Elite Assassin
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posted November 08, 2008 03:09 PM |
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Probably he didn't see the latest update.
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Elvin
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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 08, 2008 03:27 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 15:29, 08 Nov 2008.
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That was my point. Btw did anyone try academy on 2.6? I just returned to Athens so I was too busy to make more experiments and I did not get to see zilo either. Btw the new tournament will coincide with my birthday
Edit: Oh an Arcax if you dislike people abusing a single faction you can always use samiekl's matchup generator
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Arcax
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Famous Hero
Its quite hot inside...
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posted November 08, 2008 03:51 PM |
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Edited by Arcax at 15:52, 08 Nov 2008.
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It will look like this (I hope not):
Arcax: Hi, so lets have a duel
Opponent : ME ACADEMY!!!
Arcax : Maybe lets use matchup generator?
Opponent : Ok , but ME ACADEMY!!!
Not to offend anybody ofc...
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Asheera
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Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted November 08, 2008 04:06 PM |
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I won't be able to play tomorrow, I will be very busy.
But from Monday I will be able though.
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Final_Boss
Adventuring Hero
The Necropope
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posted November 08, 2008 05:10 PM |
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I just made a discovery: Armageddon and/or CotN + magnetic golems, elemental gargoyles and magic proof mini-artifacts = easy win vs some factions.
Please, remove those spells from academy’s arsenal. Oh, and remove armageddon from fortress too (too many fire immune creatures there).
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Asheera
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Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted November 08, 2008 05:12 PM |
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You can't remove those spells only for a faction. So just make sure you or the opponent don't use them with Academy then
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted November 08, 2008 05:26 PM |
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You can ban them in magic guild I guess, wasn't it that way in some of the previous versions?
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