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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted May 29, 2009 10:23 PM bonus applied by angelito on 30 May 2009.
Edited by Salamandre at 12:49, 19 Jun 2009.

I will need a whole book to describe this, so I will make it short for now:

Map Name    ["300"]  (after the "300" movie by Frank Miller.)

Map Makers:    [Salamandre]

Map Type:      [Single player][Large][1 Human Only, 7 Computer Only]

Language:      [English ]

Description:  "Spartan King Leonidas  and 300 Spartans fight to the last man against Persian 'God-King' Xerxes  and his army of more than one million soldiers. As the battle rages, Queen Gorgo  attempts to rally support in Sparta for her husband."

   
Special Win: [Stay alive;)]
Special Loss: [NONE]
Special Other:   [NONE]

SPECIAL ACKNOWLEDGMENTS:

 -Jim Vogan for his  valuable advices as for his patience to guide me through ERM.
 -Jim Vogan again for creating 9 puzzles which place far behind all that was done till now through ERM.
 -Darkloke for his fantastic creatures.
 -Bisik from russian forums for 3 creatures graphics
 -Berserker and Qwertyus from WoG russian forums for advices and tools
 -Vlaad for his original idea for Berenike quest.
 -Cepheus for making the icons of the new creatures. Great work!
 -Koni for giving a nice German flavor to the quest involving himself.
 -All people from HC who encouraged me through the hard work.
 -WoG team for the amazing tool they gave us.
 -my students for ignoring my weariness for all the time this scenario took me.

What it proposes:

Internal customized difficulty settings, choose the easiest one when playing it for the first time or you may not be able to finish it alive.
120+ customized battles.
50+ unique quests + 15 "death order" specific quests.
140 unique special characters to interact with (NPC)
9 special puzzles done by J. Vogan
A lot of fresh graphics
More than 150 fully working objects to be visited and interact.
Option to be on "good" or "bad" side (Orders of Death/Life), changing the whole adventure experience with different issues and plots.
And many more...

Latest update: 19.06.09.

 DOWNLOAD Please be patient, the zip weights 35 Mo. Mostly from the graphics russian latest patch + new creatures graphics(25 Mo). If you already have the patch (the latest!) as well as commanders-gods-small patch, ignore them when installing. There is also a "reverse" Install file which will restore your WoG original graphics.










Further informations in the read me. This scenario provides a new vision of Heroes maps. Some may hate, I hope others not. Give it a try before shooting at me.

Please report any bugs. There are so many situations, possibilities and different issues according to your actions that I could not test them all. So far I did not find a single bug, but one may never know.

Will you change the history?

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kesnar
kesnar


Famous Hero
from Kesnaria
posted May 29, 2009 11:15 PM
Edited by kesnar at 23:16, 29 May 2009.

Man you are one of the greatest mapmakers
Allow me to bow before you...

I haven't played it and I will not for some time(I'm busy) but...yu have done a lot of work...
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Dj
Dj


Promising
Supreme Hero
Always loyal to HC
posted May 30, 2009 12:02 AM

Quote:
one of the greatest mapmakers

One of the?!?!? oh no..by far he's the greatest mapmaker! good job to all who participated to the creation of this map!

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Alustor
Alustor


Famous Hero
ooo da :)
posted May 30, 2009 02:28 AM
Edited by Alustor at 02:31, 30 May 2009.

at last thanks man and a REALLY REALLY GREAT JOB.hat down for the greatest map ever created for WoG

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songfx
songfx


Adventuring Hero
posted May 30, 2009 04:26 AM

Quote:
one of the greatest mapmakers


no "one of", Salamandre is the Greatest one.
Thanks for your hard working.
I have posted this map in Chinese WOG forum.
Here is the link
http://bbs.wakeofgods.com/thread-18478-1-1.html

we may report bugs in that topic if we find some.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted May 30, 2009 05:22 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 05:34, 30 May 2009.

Now we got the solution for being proclaimed the "best mapmaker" around: post some pics from the movie, preferably naked ones.
And also the faster way to become hated by all other mapmakers.

Seriously I am eager to hear some real comments. SongFX, thank you for making available to the Chinese community but I would suggest first waiting and see if there are not dramatic bug dead ends.
And also I am deeply sorry but it turns out that this scenario requires a fluid master of the english language. I wish I could make it more intuitive only, but it was not possible.

If you are not very familiar with english, pass your way; you will not be able to understand the plots. Specially those from James Vogan.

While offering much freedom in your quests choice and actions, the scenario is "hard scripted", each missed or not completed action leading to a general failure. You are not only required to defeat the persians armies (which are very hard to face) but to do specific quests with Queen Gorgo, each one adding an additional chance to become strong enough. Fail at this and your 300 spartans will be dead meat soon.

And there still may be a bunch of spelling errors, I used three translators but it is still hard to catch them all through so much text. I am counting on your remarks.
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songfx
songfx


Adventuring Hero
posted May 30, 2009 05:43 AM

Quote:

If you are not very familiar with english, pass your way; you will not be able to understand the plots. Specially those from James Vogan.



A player called Shbher will try to translate this map into Chinese after some bugs are fixed. Shbher is more careful than me. Maybe he will contact you.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted May 30, 2009 05:49 AM

I will wholehearted try to help him.
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Patrunjelu
Patrunjelu


Hired Hero
posted May 30, 2009 09:27 AM

Yay oblivion.

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the_assassin
the_assassin


Adventuring Hero
Lizard Assassin
posted May 30, 2009 09:28 AM

Why Rapidshare? Somebody can repack?

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Ayreon
Ayreon


Famous Hero
posted May 30, 2009 11:30 AM
Edited by Ayreon at 12:32, 30 May 2009.

Finally, the long awaited masterpiece of WoG Mapping and ERM coding
I'm downloading as I type. I'm very curious.

EDIT:
I've started the map, but it's hard to tell where I need to go. I need to find Lucretius' house somehow, but I honestly wouldn't have any idea where it is. Somehow, Queen Gorgo was teleported to the Dragon's Lair, with two of Kleandros' apprentices, who turn out to be walking dead...
I find it really vague so far, and Queen Gorgo was killed by the dragon's lair by the way.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted May 30, 2009 12:42 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 13:15, 30 May 2009.

Quote:

I've started the map, but it's hard to tell where I need to go. I need to find Lucretius' house somehow, but I honestly wouldn't have any idea where it is. Somehow, Queen Gorgo was teleported to the Dragon's Lair, with two of Kleandros' apprentices, who turn out to be walking dead...
I find it really vague so far, and Queen Gorgo was killed by the dragon's lair by the way.


Look at locations (right click on kingdom overview): Lucretius home is listed there and it shows you where it is. Why would I implement this feature if not for helping you to find a location in one click.(34)




Dragons lair.
Kleandros says:
"I must warn you that I really don't have any idea which dragon is guarding the armor.  Two of my apprentices will help you"

Means you have to find the right dragon and kill it to retrieve the armor. Look carefully at dragons stats and you will figure (I hope) which one must be killed. The azure has speed 4 so you can't hit it 4 times. The black has 5 HP means four attacks will not kill him. Now you have three more choices.
The rust will be impossible to hit 4 times because he will always be in the radius of the azures who act first.
Now you have 2 choices.
Use wait/hit actions to hit the right dragon 4 times using the apprentices first then Gorgo 2 times.

I did not say will be easy. Observation required. It is still a Heroes map using Heroes mechanics and asking for Heroes concentration and determination.

The read me says: save every day and keep the save. Reload and read the dialogs again. All the hints are there. After this quest all the others will give hints in the papyrus.

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Warmonger
Warmonger


Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
posted May 30, 2009 01:10 PM

Looks impressive, will play it as soon as holidays starts... at the beginning of July

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Hermetic
Hermetic

Tavern Dweller
posted May 30, 2009 02:33 PM

Thanks for a great map which for I've waited for long time If I find any bugs be sure I'll post them

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Alustor
Alustor


Famous Hero
ooo da :)
posted May 30, 2009 03:11 PM

who and where is this Thork?

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted May 30, 2009 03:52 PM

If Gaiana tells you that Thork is threatening the miners and they can't continue the work, look around the miners.
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Alustor
Alustor


Famous Hero
ooo da :)
posted May 30, 2009 03:55 PM
Edited by Alustor at 15:56, 30 May 2009.

no....the works tell me that,and how 'bout that stupid dog that sais i don t like you? 0_O.is there any way to go over the 1st persian wave without losing any unit?

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted May 30, 2009 04:01 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 16:02, 30 May 2009.

The last dog will follow you only if you are charming (diplomacy=4th rank in Order of Life)

If you go there before obtaining this rank, then:

You received this in your papyrus:

"I found the last dog but it refuses to go with me. I must ask Koyras for a way"

Go and ask Koyras.
Yes of course you can lose nothing from the first wave. But a few casualties are not a drama if Gorgo can supply.
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Alustor
Alustor


Famous Hero
ooo da :)
posted May 30, 2009 04:09 PM

this map is really nice but i think the quest flow is too big.i don t think that you can possibly make all of them and that s a shame,i think you should rather receive quests once every 2 weeks at least,thus having more time to complete them.and i think i discovered the first bug,or i may be wrong.i killed the first two waves of the fist big persian wave,and in the following weeks there were 3 red heroes near that spartan that sais:"we are spartan scouts.for now you should visit the war academy and gather bla bla bla ".and when there was red's turn,this message kept spamming me,yet none of the heros attacked me,and after 7 days there were defeated .and btw,where is this war academy?

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted May 30, 2009 04:16 PM

Oh my god, what you are doing? That spartans scouts should be gone first week. You did not move Leonidas from the first turn? What you waiting for? He has to explore and do several tasks from the first day.
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