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posted February 14, 2004 01:13 AM |
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To me it seems that if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear..But then again that might be my naieve self talking...Actually I'm pretty sure that's it LOL
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posted February 14, 2004 01:20 AM |
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dont wanna drag this off topic...
But IMO the minute you start running from things like these is the minute you start hiding.
Stand firm for your beliefs consis, and if i were you i would sue your ex. Calling the other patients as witnesses and telling your story might get you somewhere about how she abused the system out of jealousy.
Yes the story is weird (though it was a well written post) but you cant stop hiding from things... whats next, you gonna start hiding from supermarkets because someone might rob you there?
And as romana says, there is no point in generalizing. There are weirdo girls as im sure the girls feels there are weirdo men out there too. I have a girlfriend who went on a date with a guy who spend the all evening talking about shoes and how fat he was getting...
Luckily enough she hasnt concidered us all to be the same though, maybe thats because she knows me... i dont know 
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posted February 14, 2004 04:35 AM |
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But IMO the minute you start running from things like these is the minute you start hiding.Stand firm for your beliefs consis
I can't do that Sir_Stiven. I tried so hard to fight this but no one would listen to me.
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and if i were you i would sue your ex.
There is a rule in the united states military: Military personnel and agencies cannot sue other military agencies or personnel. It's the law.
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Calling the other patients as witnesses and telling your story might get you somewhere about how she abused the system out of jealousy.
I did and was able to get her banned from ever being allowed in the department of physical therapy(that's where Jennifer and I worked) again. She continued to make frequent visits to the hospital and, later I met her confidant when she paid me a late-night visit stinking drunk. She forced her way into my dorm-room while her friend watched and laughed. She told me she could do whatever she wanted and I should just accept that.
You know something? I do.
No one would listen to me. Not only did she do that but she and another friend of hers were the ones that revealed my relationship with Jennifer to my superiors. You see, Jennifer was a second lieutenant(o-1 paygrade) and I was a senior airman(e-4 paygrade). In the u.s. military that's illegal to date bewteen ranks of enlisted and commissioned officers. It was then that I was forced to remove myself from the military and Jennifer was dishcarged for conduct "unbecoming of an officer". So, she effectively got me kicked out of the military and got me thrown in jail.
What is power? It's people like that. There's nothing you can do when no one will listen. So I say run, just run. The only alternative is the topic of this thread and I tried that. It didn't work.
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posted February 14, 2004 06:39 AM |
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Woman always stick together like if it's only the woman thats in the right.
I am not sure the laws in Sweeden Stiven but the law here, they wont hear you, They are already convinced that we are guilty, even if we are 100% in the right.
You cant try to sue them because they also are already convinced that you are guilty.
You cant do nothing & women are that heartless to use the advantage to get what they want, whenever they want 7 for a hugh price if they cant.
Not all but theres alot that are like that.
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posted February 14, 2004 06:43 AM |
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OK well I dunno what women you have been dealing with but you make it out to be all women are cold hearted, and well that is so not true.
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posted February 14, 2004 06:46 AM |
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I never said all were, theres alot of good women out there but theres alot that are resentful also & hateful enough to put someone in jail for personal reasons.
NOT ALL BUT ALOT.
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posted February 14, 2004 06:53 AM |
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well, i understand what your saying, and you are right alot of women can be total biatches and be very resentful. That still shouldn't put the name on the rest of us women out there, there are alot of women out therr that all they want is to be loved, and they get totally trashed on by men. Men can be just as big as biatches as women can be, but that doesn't give us women a right to judge all men either.
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posted February 14, 2004 06:56 AM |
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Thats what I said, theres alot of good women out there but I am talking only about the abusive ones that will do whatever it takes, to get what they want & if they cant have what they want then gulp hehe.
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posted February 14, 2004 09:44 AM |
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there are alot of women out there that all they want is to be loved
Somehow.....I knew this about you Kitten. I don't hardly know you but I had this feeling you were like this. That's why I stood up for you in those ToH threads when all those people were bashing you.
Personally, it's good to know there are women like Kitten out there. My wife is one too but that's it for me. Beyond this number I have not met any other women like this.
It's good to hope but more realistic to run.
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posted February 14, 2004 06:53 PM |
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Vicious behavior is not limited by gender.
Domestic abuse is still a real problem in the US. The judicial system attempts to protect its victims, who are primarily women and children. It is unfortunate that the system is now being manipulated by unscrupulous women to abuse their partners. However, we need to keep in mind why the system is there in the first place. The protections from domestic abuse are only a few decades old and still have some kinks to work out. Until things work smoothly, the cruel will continue to terrorize those around them, whether by stalking them or by constantly reporting that they are being stalked.
The majority of women are not manipulative b*tches. The majority of men are not brutal bastards. Any large group of people -- be it a nation, a gender, a race, a religion -- will have its weirdos, its criminals, its Poison Ivys who destroy everything they touch. You can't judge the whole group of people based on the looney fringes. Caution is warranted in dealing with any unknown person. Running is not. Otherwise, you'll end up running from the whole world.
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posted February 14, 2004 09:58 PM |
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Otherwise, you'll end up running from the whole world.
Then, so be it....
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posted February 14, 2004 10:29 PM |
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Get a Lawyer. In todays society, you are powerless without a lawyer.
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posted February 14, 2004 10:37 PM |
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Vicious behavior is not limited by gender.
Domestic abuse is still a real problem in the US. The judicial system attempts to protect its victims, who are primarily women and children. It is unfortunate that the system is now being manipulated by unscrupulous women to abuse their partners. However, we need to keep in mind why the system is there in the first place. The protections from domestic abuse are only a few decades old and still have some kinks to work out. Until things work smoothly, the cruel will continue to terrorize those around them, whether by stalking them or by constantly reporting that they are being stalked.
The majority of women are not manipulative b*tches. The majority of men are not brutal bastards. Any large group of people -- be it a nation, a gender, a race, a religion -- will have its weirdos, its criminals, its Poison Ivys who destroy everything they touch. You can't judge the whole group of people based on the looney fringes. Caution is warranted in dealing with any unknown person. Running is not. Otherwise, you'll end up running from the whole world.
Thats impossible, it is like saying there will be all good & no evil.
Theres always going to be crime from each way.
WHy you think you always see men going to jail on tv & in RL,Cause some women drive them into insanity.
Khaelo spoken l;ike a women believer who believe All men are jerks & all deserves what they get.
Even if women dont know the system, they can esily manipulate it.
Trust me theres alot more of it going on then you realise.
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posted February 15, 2004 12:24 AM |
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Theres always going to be crime from each way.
That's what I meant. My post shouldn't be implying that all men are jerks! I agree with this...
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theres alot of good women out there but I am talking only about the abusive ones that will do whatever it takes, to get what they want & if they cant have what they want then gulp hehe.
...and was just pointing out that there are men like this out there, too. Different kinds of abuse; but both are abuse just the same. The system which was intended to prevent one kind of abuse has become a tool of another kind. 
I also wanted to point out that such people are in the minority. Most people, men and women, are not nearly this cruel and vicious. If Consis wants to run from the world, that's his personal option. But I think it a poor suggestion for others. What kind of world would we have if everyone remained isolated for fear of the few b*tches, jerks, and nasties out there? We'd miss out on all the kind strangers, friends, and soulmates as well.
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Incidently, the comment about lawyers is completely irrelevant. Their powers can be used for good or evil. Someone close to me is involved in a lawsuit against a compulsive liar. Getting a lawyer solves nothing if the other person's got a lawyer, too. 
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posted February 15, 2004 12:33 AM |
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Alot of women also like to think that men are all jerks & then theres those that watch a bit too much tv & think every guy gets what they deserve.
Def alot of bad guys out there also but it';s like everyone knows about the bad guys but not many think about how bad women can be also.
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posted February 15, 2004 04:11 PM |
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I dont know about your american laws...
but i do know that if you dont stand up to people they will push you around. And if that was an ex of mine behaving that way i would stand up to her and i would be in her face all along in a justiceable way to get her to stop.
But the only person here that can make her stop is you consis. You, you and only you. Stand up her and say you wont take it anymore and if she keeps up she might regret it later. And if she doesnt stop, then get down to her level. Being the better person isnt worth anything here if it means she bullying you around. Get in her face in any way you can as long as she cant prove it.
ive seen your passion here in things you believe in, now take that passion of yours to get that crazy woman off your tail.
@khaelo: great posts again...so, when are you applying for a mod position here? just let me know if you want a reference.
EDIT: oh and btw, my handle is still spelled Sir_Stiven
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posted February 15, 2004 07:46 PM |
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Nidhgrinn, such a good point. Intraverted criticism with no outlet for the recipient is exactly as you say, self destructive. I agree completely and yet I haven't a clue as to how to combat it. Perhaps you could offer some advice.
Consis... Reading your posts I'd say you've come out quite well. Stayed true to yourself through all of it aswell, and look at where you are now compared to when things looked as if you were in a deadend street! Best proof that going on is pretty much always the best path to walk 
To answer your question, I lose my selfdestructive feelings, when I have them, in art. If you are not an artistic person, perhaps you enjoy making music, or love doing sports? I'm sure these work aswell.
As for the ones who say that running is never a good option... In some cases the only sane thing to do is to cut all strings, be it by moving to a completely different geographical location, or changing phonenumber/email/... I don't think that should include suicide though. That would be more than running from one person or a situation, it's the ultimate form of running, running from oneself. And that's never a good option.
No one has the right to drive you to madness though, and if you can't find a way to deal with the situation and you seem to be turning in circles no matter what you try, just run. I wouldn't call running this way cowardness, rather self preservativeness. Closing a chapter like this, cutting strings and blowing up bridges behind you sure does hurt and is a very difficult thing to do, but it's better than lose a battle you cannot win. At least in my opinion.
Do not dwell in the past,
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posted February 16, 2004 10:52 PM |
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Aculias
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posted February 17, 2004 03:14 AM |
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That looks kind of painful man lol.
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posted March 13, 2004 07:16 PM |
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IMO, Many that take their own lives has been fighters. Many has probably had a tough time in school, being teased and maybe punched. the have let al the bad comment's to them just fall of, and that has made them, partually stronger. But after a time, they don't stand it anymore. Think on it: Not want to go to school, because you know that it won't be pleasant, but still you go and let everything pass.
(I think I can say I know, because when I gi to school, there is someone that Always seems like he wants a fight).
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