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Aculias
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posted August 27, 2010 06:46 PM

I am still a lesbian trapped in a mans body
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alcibiades
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posted October 11, 2010 07:39 PM

Serbian G&L Pride Parade ends in violence.

It was supposed to be a "democracy test", but instead ends in scores being wounded and arrested. How sad.
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Corribus
Corribus

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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted January 19, 2011 08:08 PM

*BUMP*

Now this is a step in the right direction.

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JoonasTo
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posted January 19, 2011 08:10 PM

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*BUMP*

Now this is a step in the right direction.

That wasn't possible before?

Damn, I'm probably one of the most anti gay persons on HC but not having that right was just ridiculous.

Excellent progression, or should I say, finally?
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selcy
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posted January 19, 2011 08:18 PM

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I am still a lesbian trapped in a mans body

Ok have only just found this. Should I be worried Acu lol .

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ohforfsake
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posted January 19, 2011 08:41 PM

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Damn, I'm probably one of the most anti gay persons on HC but not having that right was just ridiculous.



I see the world a bit like a room.
Most people have a lot of stuff and you can put it nice and neetly in the room.
However in the real world, people before you had this room and they placed the stuff their way, meaning that if you don't move what they placed, the problem of the placement will continue until you react upon it.
So the future generations will probably always need to clean up after the past generations, seeing us as barbarians in certain ways as we see our forfathers as barbarian in certain ways as well.

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Minion
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posted January 19, 2011 09:17 PM
Edited by Minion at 02:31, 21 Jan 2011.

Congrats US, congrats Obama. Finally.

Edit.

In another news, relating to the previous military policy DADT :

CNN

Over six years, "don't ask, don't tell" cost more than $193 million, the GAO finds. The cost came to an average of $52,800 to take each person out of the military and find and train a replacement, it found. And the report released Thursday says that 40% of those service members had skills in a "critical" occupation or foreign language such as Arabic, or both.
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Seraphim
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posted January 22, 2011 09:25 PM

I completely respect other peoples sexuality,as long as they keep it for themselves.Otherwise,they are just attention-snows.


Ain't sex life a private issue anymore?

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bixie
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posted January 22, 2011 10:02 PM

Sex is, Sexuality isn't.

Sex is a biological function that social norms have ghettoised to the bedroom for the actual act, whilst glamourised the process and the reward everywhere else.

Sexuality is a factor of our personality and identity, no matter how small we like to make it. Sexuality is a fundemental part of our psychological make up and not allowing it in conversion or prohibiting people from talking about it is to amputate their personality and freedoms.

saying that "You have no problems with gays, as long as they don't express it," is infringing on human rights at best.
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posted January 22, 2011 10:13 PM

There are a lot of parts of our "psychological makeup" that it's good that we don't talk about in public.
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blizzardboy
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posted January 29, 2011 01:07 AM

French gay marriage ban upheld by constitutional court

I don't get it. I thought everyone in France was teh ghey? Nobody is allowed to get married?
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shyranis
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posted February 02, 2011 08:36 AM

Now you can tease people who want a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage by calling them French.
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Corribus
Corribus

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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted February 03, 2011 08:16 PM
Edited by Corribus at 20:17, 03 Feb 2011.

Just in case you haven't seen it, here is a great video on gay marriage .

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Minion
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posted February 04, 2011 01:32 AM

A very nice speech. I'd really hope everyone to think before they wish/vote to deny others of their happiness.
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Azagal
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posted February 04, 2011 01:46 AM
Edited by Azagal at 01:49, 04 Feb 2011.

Chapeau Zach Wahl that was very nice speech indeed. I loved how he stroked their egos and their national pride what a devious little guy. I'm very impressed it was an excellent speech both rhetorically and from its content delivering like that infront of the house of representatives at the age of 19? That's very impressive. Good for you Zach Wahl.
Does anyone know the result or the vote?
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Adrius
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posted February 04, 2011 02:00 AM

Damn, that was really impressive.

"...the sexual orientation of my parents has had zero effect on the content of my character"

Well that's a kind of flawed statement though imo. Can't really be sure of anything like that, since we're shaped so much by our enviroment.

All the more reason to not ban gay marriage though. Might as well ban bananas for maybe causing people to trip.
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posted February 04, 2011 05:38 AM

The kid's got one hell of a career in front of him. The speech is, like Az said, technically great.

I have nothing against gay people marrying each other, though it'd be pretty tough to do something like that where I am, at least for now.

Which brings me to an unrelated word or two about gay issues.

I generally disagree with LGBT activists over a lot of things but didn't know if I should mention any of that, since that recent gay parade embarrassment over at my town, that I just noticed Alc addressed a few posts ago. I recon enough time has passed, though, to start watching that whole mess from a critical viewpoint, and get to the I-Learned-Something-Today moment. So here's basically how it turned out.

We'd like to parade, they said. They should parade, you know, the West said. The country's really not in the shape for that, they've been told. We WANT to parade, they repeated, a bit sharper. Look, guys, we're having a few really serious issues right now, no one's bothering you, no one's getting fired or beaten just cause he's gay, there are lots of successful gay people in the country, they're not being discriminated against, let's please leave this for another time, they've been told. No, they said. There are going to be riots, for chrissakes, look at all the tension in the country, there are hundreds of idiots just waiting for an excuse to get out there and loot stuff, they've been told. It's your job to take care of that, none of our concern, they said.

Will you at least please parade by the city river where concerts are usually held in the summer, there are less people passing through and it's easier to secure, they've been asked, in the final desperate attempt by the city authorities to minimize the inevitable damage.

The reply, of course, was no, it's the city center or nothing.

And the city got pissed and said, well, it's nothing then.

About a year later, the city is literally forced to hold the "parade". So, a handful of random gay people, since most of them either didn't consider it that big a deal to risk anything over, or don't care for parading in general, take a 200 meter walk through a park in the city center and then get the hell out of there. No one as much as notices them. If they just got together and went on that walk without advertising it all over the place for months, no one would get hurt. But that wasn't the point.

Instead, rioting happened all across town, resulting in hundreds of injured policemen, broken windows, looted shops etc. The government gets bonus points with the West, the Serbs turn up all over the world news as the bad guys (see-it's-a-good-thing-we-support-Kosovo-independence) once again, the lobbies are satisfied, the people are shown that right wing fanaticism is bad mkay, the police are presented as victims for the first time I can remember, everyone profits. Except, well, the shop owners, people who risked their lives going to work that day, the country's capital city and, last but not least, gay people, who got absolutely nothing out of the whole affair except a thousand angry cavemen threatening to lynch them all if they ever get the chance.

It's easy to fight for something when it's going to be other people that bleed for you, is all I'm saying. I suppose that's the darker side of the whole story. There's a bit too much self righteousness and an awkward lack of understanding of some of the more sensitive regions, finer methods and simple patience hanging around all that gay rights activism, here at least, and I think that's something to work on.

And what's with the endless periodical parades in countries/states/cities in the West in which gay people have every right imaginable? I thought the idea was to blend in, be able to live normal lives like everyone else, fight not to be discriminated against. What exactly is the point behind self separation?
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posted February 04, 2011 06:09 AM
Edited by gnomes2169 at 00:51, 05 Feb 2011.

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It's easy to fight for something when it's going to be other people that bleed for you, is all I'm saying. I suppose that's the darker side of the whole story. There's a bit too much self righteousness and an awkward lack of understanding of some of the more sensitive regions, finer methods and simple patience hanging around all that gay rights activism, here at least, and I think that's something to work on.


It is easy to rally behind a martyr or a saint, and many people have been given that one individual. So, because they are given this single excuse, even if everything else is good with their lives, they will fight tooth and nail to make sure that they are heard and that everyone will remember them as well. Most will remember them as the dissenter who broke the butcher's window. Others will remember them as martyrs for their cause when they are taken away as well. People are stubborn and short fused in today's world, where any small injustice can be spread to 500,000 people in 5 minutes.

This inflames people who would have sat in patience and silence, causing them to do something stupid and/ or destructive to "Justify" their cause. You add mob mentality into this and you get a situation that I hope never truly escalates into a miniature war.

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And what's with the endless periodical parades in countries/states/cities in the West in which gay people have every right imaginable? I thought the idea was to blend in, be able to live normal lives like everyone else, fight not to be discriminated against. What exactly is the point behind self separation?


People like to feel different. If you give someone attention of any kind for long enough (A generation or two, usually), they will miss it when it is gone. So these people will go around and blatantly flaunt what makes them different. Needless to say, many people take advantage of this difference to further their own goals, and this also gives the playground bullies ammo. (By "Playground bullies, I mean anyone who uses force to take what pleasure they desire from others) These "Bullies" of all ages will use the complaints of others to make themselves feel superior, above another person, and will exploit these people's admitting to being different as an excuse to oppress them.

This creates an endless cycle until someone can come up with a decision that makes all parties at least slightly happier, and those that are different feel good for being born the way they were born. Apparently, no one has done a good enough job yet... Right.
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posted February 04, 2011 09:20 AM

Bak, you can write as much as you want, it can neither excuse what's happening nor blame stuff on the gays. You certainly remember the "I'm black I'm proud", "Black is Beautiful" stuff and so on.

If something is legal, it doesn't need to hide. If you allow a religion - why would they have to celebrate their masses in quite underground locations?

It's the mindset of the "normal" population: if they don't agree with the "gay stuff" and them parading - why don't they organize a "counter parade" that celebrates hetero sexuality?
As it is, sadly, the message is, LGBTs want to have fun and celebrate while the stupid heteros are full of aggression.

And, no, the idea is NOT
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to blend in, be able to live normal lives like everyone else, fight not to be discriminated against. What exactly is the point behind self separation?

Because that would mean, people are just TOLERATED. The idea is not to bring people to tolerate what everyone thinks is abnormal, distasteful, unnatural or whatever. The idea is to establish those people as "different, but nonetheless "normal"" in every respect that actually counts.
Which is the bottom line: everyone, even the Serbians, should learn to RESPECT people who are DIFFERENT.

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Doomforge
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posted February 04, 2011 10:30 AM

Aren't you missing Bak's point, JJ?

Bak is blaming the tension in the country. Not anti-gay, not anti-anything - but riots are likely to happen on any given occassion. And when that happens, clueless people accuse Serbs to be anti-gay, instead of realizing that a parade of homeless watchmakers would probably end up the same way.
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