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whiterider
whiterider


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death walks with me
posted January 13, 2011 10:29 AM

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The Archangel Michael is the big bad evil. He wants to destroy the Griffin familly.



Yes, speaking of twisting polarities. From what I know Archangels dont have free will and cant fall or feel revenge (not that some holy books are not speaking about fallen angels...) Because Faceless lack from this game (or are not announced maybe) the archangel will influence the demons I think, or maybe the nagas?

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Zenofex
Zenofex


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Kreegan-atheist
posted January 13, 2011 10:33 AM
Edited by Zenofex at 10:34, 13 Jan 2011.

What I don't like is that the Demons' position in the lore seems to be unchanged. Whatever happens, when they come out of Sheogh, everybody forgets how much they hate each other and rally to fight "the ultimate evil". Like Inferno's there to provide entertainment and occasionally relieve the monotony of Ashan's grey political landscape. If I was a Demon Sovereign, I'd make a giant middle finger rise from the ground during the eclipses instead of sending hordes of expendable entertainers to do what the other races are doing seemingly very well - to butcher each other without the need of make-weight demons.

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War-overlord
War-overlord


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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted January 13, 2011 10:41 AM

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From what I know Archangels dont have free will and cant fall or feel revenge.


That may be true for the Archangels from the various religions of earth. But I doubt that goes for those of Ashan.
In Ashan Angels, in all their appearances and subspecies, are a sentient race like Humans, Elves and Dwarves. They chose their God Elrath as their Patron and while they are devoted to him, more so than some Humans perhaps, they are not in the same relation with him as the Angels are to God/Allah/Jaweh/Etc.
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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted January 13, 2011 10:48 AM
Edited by Elvin at 10:49, 13 Jan 2011.

Demons are merely the catalyst for the events that unfold, or rather the one event that has the potential to affect them all. Orcs don't fight for freedom, they are out for blood. Necros are pressing for their independence, solidifying their position and further improving their knowledge over necromantic arts, one can imagine that mother Namtaru as an avatar of death would be of great interest to them. But at the same time they despise demons for what they stand for, you probably remember Arantir's story. Haven is actually hoping for demon invasions, the nobles are hoping to make a name for themselves. Naturally they would be easy to follow Michael's suggestions but I do not believe his mission is to kill the Griffin family, if he did he simply would and we would have no story to tell. Heck, I have no doubt he could sway the masses to lynch them as heretics if he wanted to. But I do believe that he is being used, someone *did* resurrect him and probably expected him to resume the war from his previous life.

As for the walking barbarian my guess is he's Sandor and as such he has a unique model on the adventure map.
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted January 13, 2011 10:56 AM

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As for the walking barbarian my guess is he's Sandor and as such he has a unique model on the adventure map.



And here I was hoping the one on the Horse was Sandor. Shame, I'd prefer Orcs don't ride horses. I don't find horses fitting mounts for Orcs.
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admira
admira


Promising
Famous Hero
posted January 13, 2011 10:59 AM

blood rage make a comeback yay!  

I worried about creature animation and transformation into 3D I guess my worry is too exaggerated. Hey, Game Workshop chose them for a reason alright.


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whiterider
whiterider


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death walks with me
posted January 13, 2011 11:01 AM

I think I will welcome blood rage (and maybe many others here) only if it is not 100% connected to the heroes. In H5 the way it worked was very stupid making all neutral orcs die like flies and with strong heroes they were overpowered. Devs should reinvent this ability from scratch.

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted January 13, 2011 11:01 AM
Edited by Elvin at 11:02, 13 Jan 2011.

Of course, if you don't ride a T-Rex you're an idiot.

You'd expect them to ride something cool that they tamed but I don't really mind.

Edit: Blood rage doesn't work like before, as you may have noticed there was no rage gained/lost in the video.
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Naze
Naze


Known Hero
posted January 13, 2011 11:06 AM

Is Erwan going to be a voice actor? He definitely has some talent not only for art
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defxon2
defxon2

Tavern Dweller
posted January 13, 2011 12:08 PM

here are my thoughts on the jungle faction:
1. sharkmen - love it!!!
2. kappa - at first glance i thought it sucked, but after looking it a second time, they're awesome. frog creatures. hope they have long tongue strikes and can leap around.
3. coral maiden - i like this one except for the name. coral and pearl's fine but maiden really doesnt fit. i put it down to a translation error. dunno what everyones complaining bout the medusa name. medusa's the name of a gorgon. it isnt the creatures name. theres only one medusa. you can call it coral gorgon and ill be fine with it. HOMM3 fans, however, won't.
4. water spirit - this unit totally blows. like someone else mentioned, this will mean there will be no elementals as neutral units. every HOMM game worth its salt had them. in my opinion, this should be changed to a serpenthawk and its upgrade the cuoatl.
5. tide warrior - love the unit, hate the name. change it to tidal guardian and tidal champion. or just naga guardian and naga champion.
6. frost spirit - ugly and makes no sense. a frost being in a jungle/swamp? this is just plain laziness to come up with cool ideas. i can buy the sharks being in the jungle rivers like the bullshark but this frost thing has to go. like really go. replace it with some mutant creature, like a mutant manta, crab or something.
7. i was hoping the dragon eel was gonna be this faction's super but this unit is kinda cool too. not a big fan of the name cloudwalker kirin. emperor kirin sounds better.
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deadace
deadace


Adventuring Hero
posted January 13, 2011 12:30 PM

After watching the video, it seems the Orcs are connected to the jungle tileset, also they look the part! Has it been absolutely confirmed that they are plains?

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Wckey
Wckey


Famous Hero
posted January 13, 2011 12:46 PM

Finally they showed us demons in battle. I have to say, this is the first time I actually liked Maniacs.
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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


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Supreme Hero
posted January 13, 2011 01:07 PM

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Finally they showed us demons in battle. I have to say, this is the first time I actually liked Maniacs.

Yes, both the Inferno and the Strgonhold units are pleasant to see. Nice models and animations. Compared to the Inferno, Stronghold and Necropolis, the Haven units we've seen so far are really bleak.

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Lokheit
Lokheit


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posted January 13, 2011 01:16 PM

Cyclops is HUGE! Ok, this time summing up his size and the "level decrease" of the other level7 creatures, he is a level 7 by right.

And it was cool to see the models. Tormentors defintely aren't the same as Maniacs, and they are bigger too.

On a side note: Youcan see the artwork for basic Cyclops, and the other 2 elites that remain unrevealed during the video.

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Demonge
Demonge


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more than meets the eyes
posted January 13, 2011 01:25 PM

What I dislike in this video is that unupgraded Cyclops and Excruciators really seem hunchbaked in game... That's sad.

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veco
veco


Legendary Hero
who am I?
posted January 13, 2011 01:50 PM
Edited by veco at 13:51, 13 Jan 2011.

The cyclops looks like they could only barely fit him into a 2x2 square size
What I would like is an (optional) feature of the screen slightly shaking when a stack such as the cyclops attacks. Gives you the feeling of POWER.
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War-overlord
War-overlord


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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted January 13, 2011 01:55 PM

Seeing how big those cyclops are, you should have your screen shaking when they move as well.

Nightterror's idea isn't bad, but I doubt we'll see it soon. But it's good and it could potentially replace Logistics as a skill.
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Yaeliccc
Yaeliccc


Known Hero
Undead, but warm and fuzzy
posted January 13, 2011 01:57 PM

orcs look good combat appearances wise... BUT they seem soooo boring !!!! and i hate the fact that the "rage" is coming back
and i hate even more the idea that such a boring faction will be probably the most powerful as well

regarding the mounts, awesome, cute, creative idea... BUT guess it is true what they say - when u have "night terrors" during the night u have to "day dream" during the day...coz this aint happening in our lifetime

when do u think they will announce the expension factions ? LOL, its like a virus, now we're all daydreaming

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wckey
wckey


Famous Hero
posted January 13, 2011 01:58 PM

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Anyway i'm VERY happy with the NO horse animations on the adventure map, they finally did it this way I guess:

You start off without mount, you can buy different mounts in shops on the map, all different mounts have different movement speed and bonusses and penalties on different kind of area's and maps, like mammoths are gonna be good on snow maps and giant serpents/turtles are gonna do well on water maps but can't move good on desert maps where horses and camels do better.

I hope they do this! This gives different mounts and monsters the chance to shine on a different way this time. I only hope they don't spoil the Nightmare in this way, better off with dungeon or as neutral.

This is a great idea. It would be original and a nice feature, but if it gets implemented I hope there will be buidings for buying mounts in towns (wich would compensate the lack of buildings like Magic Guilds).
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hahakocka
hahakocka


Known Hero
posted January 13, 2011 02:19 PM

So the orcs have their own special hero who move with his own foot, and than who is the orcish hero on a black horse at one of the screenshots end of last year

Great that we had a new video at last, I hope tomorrow will we get a video about skill or buildings or the towns inside.

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