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vicheron
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posted January 13, 2011 02:31 PM |
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Why do they have to use the whole noble warrior race stereotype with the Orcs? That's one of the most annoying cliches in fiction today. Whenever writers runs out of idea, they just decide to use to old noble warrior race trope. I much prefer the free spirited barbarians from previous Heroes and M&M games who did whatever they wanted any time they wanted.
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deadace
Adventuring Hero
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posted January 13, 2011 02:33 PM |
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WHY the Tormentors are soo fat? Well anyway I like most stronghold units in action, except for that big orc that seems to have changed? They don't seem to have the skulls anymore instead some stupid bones made into claw weapons? That sucks.
Anyway i'm VERY happy with the NO horse animations on the adventure map, they finally did it this way I guess:
You start off without mount, you can buy different mounts in shops on the map, all different mounts have different movement speed and bonusses and penalties on different kind of area's and maps, like mammoths are gonna be good on snow maps and giant serpents/turtles are gonna do well on water maps but can't move good on desert maps where horses and camels do better.
I hope they do this! This gives different mounts and monsters the chance to shine on a different way this time. I only hope they don't spoil the Nightmare in this way, better off with dungeon or as neutral.
Awesome idea! 
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted January 13, 2011 02:34 PM |
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Umm H3 played on that stereotype quite a bit. Sure they were free-spirited but also very proud and honourable as barbarians.
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted January 13, 2011 02:37 PM |
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Edited by Jabanoss at 14:39, 13 Jan 2011.
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That was an awesome video! 
Like many others have said it would be great to have a similar one for the other factions. Really like the model for the Tormentor, pure awesome 
If it wasn't for the fact that Stronghold would lack in magic they definitely become my favorite faction, because of the speed. Speedy killers is the best.
Nightterror proposal is very good indeed. Even if a "water mount" would remind me to much of pokemon 
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mamgaeater
Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted January 13, 2011 02:44 PM |
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Sexy vid. The cyclops looks really huge but i am seriously hoping those animations were slowed down for trailer purposes.
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wckey
Famous Hero
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posted January 13, 2011 02:59 PM |
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Edited by wckey at 15:08, 13 Jan 2011.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcT_70mXqaw
It's the same video but in a better quality than the gamespot one that Elvin posted in the news topic.
About the orc stereotype, I really don't mind. We already knew the story about orcs who have been created by mages and their slavery, however somehow the video made the story more interesting. I hope they can keep it interesting in the game aswell.
Also, about the story, I hope they don't make cutscenes in levels just to see someone say "I have to find this." or "I have to go to that place". It would be better if they said things like that in game, while you're playing. In ToE they did this, if I remember correctly.
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Kenishi
Famous Hero
passed out drunk in Tavern's
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posted January 13, 2011 03:25 PM |
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That was an awesome video!
Like many others have said it would be great to have a similar one for the other factions. Really like the model for the Tormentor, pure awesome
If it wasn't for the fact that Stronghold would lack in magic they definitely become my favorite faction, because of the speed. Speedy killers is the best.
Nightterror proposal is very good indeed. Even if a "water mount" would remind me to much of pokemon
Second that, also I`m really thrilled of the hint of multiple endings, that you can chose to become a savior or an tyrant ... hope it opens up a bit the value of a campaign and ads to the repeatability of it, and really, really hope it`s not only limited to the Stronghold faction.
But not really thrilled on reading that the official announcement of the 5 faction (already leaked) will be done in march ...
P.S. The models in game look well done, and the Cyclops ... just pure awesomeness it really gives you the fell of a dangerous and a top tier creature.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted January 13, 2011 03:28 PM |
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really, really hope it`s not only limited to the Stronghold faction.
It's not From what I've heard I have very high expectations of the H6 campaigns, they have received a lot of care.
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted January 13, 2011 03:35 PM |
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Edited by Jabanoss at 15:47, 13 Jan 2011.
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A question Elvin if you can, will or are allowed to answer it...
Will artifacts follow the hero between the missions in H6?
I really hope they will, it sucked in the other heroes games that they didn't. Just make the artifacts less usual and it will be perfect.
Edit: Why the hell do I write I when it is it I mean? 
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kodial79
Promising
Supreme Hero
How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted January 13, 2011 04:06 PM |
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Edited by kodial79 at 16:07, 13 Jan 2011.
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That thing about the different mounts is a good idea but really difficult to implement.
As different factions must have different mounts, then just how many different mounts can one come up with for every faction? The horse could be common to all but then what else? Keep in mind that the devs really try to make each faction under a certain background which governs over the heroes and units and everything from their appearance to abilities.
If such an idea was to be considered then we need at least three different mounts for each of the five factions. That's at least three, ideal would be five. But let's stick with three and we need fifteen different mounts! Can you come up with three different mounts for each faction without straying off of their respective backgrounds? Two more things to consider is that the mounts must not be flyers and that you should leave room for the expansion's factions too!
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properkheldar
Famous Hero
Keeper of books
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posted January 13, 2011 04:13 PM |
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That thing about the different mounts is a good idea but really difficult to implement.
As different factions must have different mounts, then just how many different mounts can one come up with for every faction? The horse could be common to all but then what else? Keep in mind that the devs really try to make each faction under a certain background which governs over the heroes and units and everything from their appearance to abilities.
If such an idea was to be considered then we need at least three different mounts for each of the five factions. That's at least three, ideal would be five. But let's stick with three and we need fifteen different mounts! Can you come up with three different mounts for each faction without straying off of their respective backgrounds? Two more things to consider is that the mounts must not be flyers and that you should leave room for the expansion's factions too!
Well in theory you could have horse as a standard mount for all to use (but with different looks corresponding with the factions) and then a faction specific mount with an added bonus. And then special mounts thats hard to get but that all can use. It would be nice just to get a feeling of advancement and change of your hero (as with the apperance change with the advanced classes). We now have a video with an orc hero walking on the overworld map and standing behind is army in battle. We also have a comic strip with an orc riding a horse, a what seems to be a stronghold looking horse. What this means is everybody´s guess.
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wckey
Famous Hero
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posted January 13, 2011 04:17 PM |
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Edited by wckey at 16:21, 13 Jan 2011.
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That thing about the different mounts is a good idea but really difficult to implement.
As different factions must have different mounts, then just how many different mounts can one come up with for every faction? The horse could be common to all but then what else? Keep in mind that the devs really try to make each faction under a certain background which governs over the heroes and units and everything from their appearance to abilities.
If such an idea was to be considered then we need at least three different mounts for each of the five factions. That's at least three, ideal would be five. But let's stick with three and we need fifteen different mounts! Can you come up with three different mounts for each faction without straying off of their respective backgrounds? Two more things to consider is that the mounts must not be flyers and that you should leave room for the expansion's factions too!
It could be like war machines in heroes 3. You can only buy one type of mount in towns of each faction (the one who has better movement in the same type of terrain as the faction), but you could buy other kinds of mount when you find specific buildings in map or when you conquer towns of other factions.
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It's not From what I've heard I have very high expectations of the H6 campaigns, they have received a lot of care.
That' good to know. Just hope there will be no maps like some of agrael's mission in H5, where to win you just had to go to a specific point of the map.
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KingImp
Famous Hero
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posted January 13, 2011 05:22 PM |
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Aren't the racials known? I thought they were in the 3 faction pdfs in the FAQ.
Really?? How did I miss that? Point me to that pdf's please?
Yeah, I know... Gating, Necromancy, Blood Rage.. But what I wanna know is how they work, not the names which I can guess already.
EDIT: Don't bother. I found them.
Wow, I must have missed that too. To get off the latest news for a minute, I'm happy to see that Haven's racial ability has changed. I have to say, in Heroes 5, Haven's Training was the only one I never used so this is a nice change for me.
As far as Stronghold's Blood Rage change, I have to say I'm happy if indeed you don't lose any now. I understand why they did it the way they did in H5 because Stronghold is supposed to be "Attack, Attack, Attack!", but it really messed with individual strategy by penalizing those of us that would prefer to wait or defend instead of constantly putting your units out there to be cannon fodder.
As for Nightterror's suggestion about the mounts, count me in as well as one who likes the idea. It may be too much work for them, especially this late in development, but it would be a nice addition.
Now, about the Stronghold's mount, or lack of, I said this on the official forums. Maybe because this was so early in the lives of the Orcs, they hadn't tamed the beast they rode in H5 so for now they walk the lands. I personally don't have a problem with that as that's what we had with Inferno.
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Kenishi
Famous Hero
passed out drunk in Tavern's
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posted January 13, 2011 05:44 PM |
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really, really hope it`s not only limited to the Stronghold faction.
It's not From what I've heard I have very high expectations of the H6 campaigns, they have received a lot of care.
Just made my day
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted January 13, 2011 05:51 PM |
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I have a question about Angels in Ashan.
H5 - description of Angel:
The Angels are the incarnation of Elrath on Ashan, and as such they are the ultimate representation of his power. These creatures of Light are fierce in combat and their attacks are always deadly. An Angel cannot be killed, if its body is endangered it will return to its spirit form and rejoin its master.
H6 History:
A legendary Archangel General, killed during the war of the Elder races, is resurrected.
Why are H6 Angels different from the H5 Angels? How can one Angel be resurrected and other Angels can't?
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wckey
Famous Hero
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posted January 13, 2011 06:00 PM |
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Edited by wckey at 18:01, 13 Jan 2011.
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Maybe the archangel was "killed" the same way as angels in h5, "returning to its spirit form and rejoin its master".
Elvin or Cepheus, can you tell us if the in-game models of the video are in their final version?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted January 13, 2011 06:02 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 18:02, 13 Jan 2011.
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I believe there is more to it. For starters it seems fishy that a centuries old creature could be resurrected, I have a feeling he was incapacitated somehow. Or cut off from his power source.
Either way H5 angels that perish cannot be rehired so they are considered dead as far as you are concerned, perhaps he could not return in the flesh for one reason or the other.
Edit: I do not know.
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted January 13, 2011 06:09 PM |
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Is there a possibility that the Archangel General is really dead and that demon is in his shape and form?
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shooshima
Adventuring Hero
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posted January 13, 2011 06:39 PM |
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Cerberus
Did you guys see the size of the cerberus! its huge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MadDoctor
Adventuring Hero
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posted January 13, 2011 06:47 PM |
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Did you guys see the size of the cerberus! its huge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe that is somehow related with the zoom view...may be it appears bigger because it is supposed to be closer to the view port...see this screenshot for example - the crossbow man looks tiny compared to the ghoul...
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