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Thread: ~ Heroes 6 - Discussion thread ~ [ This thread is 525 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 (235) 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 ]
Wckey
Wckey


Famous Hero
posted March 08, 2011 05:30 PM
Edited by Wckey at 17:32, 08 Mar 2011.

Now that you talking about Dragon's, that reminds me:
We already know the five factions (if there will be any change at all, it will be on the elites), and know 8 neutrals, and 4 bosses ("Dragon" Eel, Mother Namtaru, Michael, The weird worm like), so...
where are the Dragons. I mean, I'm happy they cut down the number of Dragons, but there's no hint about any dragon at all (I don't count the Eel as a real dragon... it's a eel).

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2 dragons 1 cup.

Somebody had to say it.

Didn't you make this joke bafore?
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LichKing012
LichKing012


Known Hero
posted March 08, 2011 05:43 PM

Well there are still 4 bosses, So I wouldn't be too discouraged. Personally, I see the Dragon Eel as a dragon, it's just a water dragon, and I am more than happy with having non-traditional heroes dragons instead of Color sways on so many **cough green crystal, black and red dragons Cough** So if we only have 1 "traditional" dragon boss in the game I will be plenty happy. Give me the eel, give me a really long snake-ie air dragon, a classical medieval black dragon, a UNIQUE green dragon, maybe something H3 basalisky but huge and awesome and with wings? and I'll be all happy inside.

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LordRiton
LordRiton


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posted March 08, 2011 07:11 PM
Edited by lordriton at 19:14, 08 Mar 2011.

PAGE 50 !!!  



C'mon Elvin help me to make it true ! I know you can do it !
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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted March 08, 2011 07:20 PM

Not really but I can drop your postcount back to 50 if you like
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Wckey
Wckey


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posted March 08, 2011 07:24 PM
Edited by Wckey at 19:30, 08 Mar 2011.

Can you drop the number of unrevealed creatures for H6 to 0?

EDIT: Am I the only one that see the Necropolis symbol on almost every page of the oficial site?
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mytheroes
mytheroes


Famous Hero
posted March 08, 2011 07:30 PM

Sir Charles named all the buildings from the official site building page.

The Stronghold Wall Breaker looks more like a siege engine than building to me though.

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smithey
smithey


Promising
Supreme Hero
Yes im red, choke on it !!!
posted March 08, 2011 08:55 PM

nicely done barkley, nicely done

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Kenishi
Kenishi


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passed out drunk in Tavern's
posted March 09, 2011 12:58 AM
Edited by Kenishi at 00:58, 09 Mar 2011.

Quote:
Ok back on topic.
So when are we getting the weekly screeny? Friday?
I hope they up the quality and content of the shots if we're down to one per week.


   Indeed if they cut the information release they could start to give out more revealing (better said on the point) information, like stats for already revealed creatures and explanations for the abilities, or the neutrals to be revealed (even if one a week, by May the should finish just in time for the game's release), maybe the Town Window, but if they will keep releasing like the have don with the daily screen shoot, there really going to disappointed fans/or force them go berserk on each other on the forums .  
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Grishnak
Grishnak


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posted March 09, 2011 01:34 AM

Actually they just said it's gonna be one screenshot per week, not any additional informations. I believe they just figured out, that posting a screenshot every day, without any info of what exactly can we see on that shot (like what are those unrecognized creatures etc.), is not enough for people waiting for the game.
So I'm just hoping that now, with one shot per week, we will get at least a detailed explanation of what can we see on those screenshots.

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted March 09, 2011 01:52 AM

That would be an incorrect assumption. We might even get something tomorrow.
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Kenishi
Kenishi


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passed out drunk in Tavern's
posted March 09, 2011 01:59 AM
Edited by Kenishi at 02:00, 09 Mar 2011.

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That would be an incorrect assumption. We might even get something tomorrow.



A flicker of hope is lit, good to hear that they are going to be a bit more forthcoming with the news release and are not throwing us just a screen shot from the game (as good looking as it is, without substance is shallow)
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Grishnak
Grishnak


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posted March 09, 2011 02:03 AM

Elvin: seems like you got some sort of "insight" into the BlackHole doings and so. If that is correct, could you ask them, gently of course, why on earth they decided to remove hero from initiative bar and went back to this flawed system from H3?

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted March 09, 2011 02:46 AM

I don't have to ask them, my H5 online experience already tells me that a set hero atb was bad for the balance. If for instance you had light versus dark, playing first often meant certain loss. Likewise playing before or after a 10-11 initiative unit could make or break your game.

If there was something I might miss it would be the atb system, not the heroes being a part of it. Yet lately I find myself liking the return back to combat turns more and more. Makes it somehow closer to the 'heroes' feel and is certainly more balanced.
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Grishnak
Grishnak


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posted March 09, 2011 02:52 AM
Edited by Grishnak at 02:55, 09 Mar 2011.

Perhaps, but being able to use hero (read: use a spell) in any time of the turn, makes it even more imbalanced. Like for example, I want to attack your 20 gold dragons with my 10 black dragons. Fair assumption would be, that I'm gonna lose more than gain with this attack. But hey, I can implode gold dragons first, then attack...
It's just an example, kinda don't remember whether gold dragons were immune to spells or not But the point remains.

Also, ATB makes it for heroes to be more important, not just serving as spell nodes. Kragh with stun blow, for example, could change the game drastically.

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted March 09, 2011 03:08 AM

I don't see how that is unfair unless we are dealing with hit&run strategies Besides gold dragons would fry half your blackies before your hero acted, they were pretty fast. In that respect nothing would change but either way..

Kragh's abilities were cool but I fail to see how you could not do the same with the old system. Sure you could change the hero's atb order with certain abilities but the implementation pretty much sucked and did little to minimize the first turn positions.
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Grishnak
Grishnak


Hired Hero
posted March 09, 2011 03:14 AM

Speaking of hit&run. Highest speed/initiative unit, for some strange reason, spell immune, and start, armaggedon, flee - how's that "balanced"?

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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


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Supreme Hero
posted March 09, 2011 03:28 AM

And how many spell immune creature have you seen in H6 yet ?

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Grishnak
Grishnak


Hired Hero
posted March 09, 2011 03:32 AM

The fact that we have not seen them yet, doesn't mean they won't be there Also, there are artifacts, hero skills perhaps etc.
Point is, seeing previous Heroes games, it is quite likely to be the case.

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mytheroes
mytheroes


Famous Hero
posted March 09, 2011 03:35 AM

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And how many spell immune creature have you seen in H6 yet ?


That, and they already said that destructive spell in H6 is nerfed so very unlikely you will do significant damage using that tactic.

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Dave_Jame
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted March 09, 2011 03:35 AM

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Unless Ubisoft officially announces the 7th neutral as mermaid, it's not a mermaid

Interesting version

Don't give me fals hope. This looks great Would love to se such a Beastman in heroes VI :-D
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