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Avirosb
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posted May 29, 2011 09:55 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 22:01, 29 May 2011.

But that dragons head is entirely different from the kirin.
The only things they have in common is that both have quadruple legs and the color scheme.

EDIT: Judging by the artwork, I'm almost glad that game never was made.
But then I saw this. This is how the Sister/Vestal should've looked like:

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MrDragon
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posted May 29, 2011 10:01 PM
Edited by MrDragon at 22:05, 29 May 2011.

Maybe the Kirin just kinda looks like an Oriental Dragon or some type of Qirin/Qilin/Kirin? like seen in traditional oriental sculpture, like in china for example.
Crazy idea I know, sometimes my theories are a little far-fetched.

Edit: I prefer the Vestal look myself, though I wouldn't mind them carrying a pole-arm like that.
Also kinda liked the reptile themed town designs, not half bad, a bit monotonous, but not bad, 4 reptiles and a dragon is not exactly great visual diversity.

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Davy
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posted May 29, 2011 10:04 PM

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@Avirosb:

Come ooon, drawing a recognizable dragon is one thing, but changing the colouring of a model is another. BTW, drawing a recognizable dragon should be relatively easy, I think, given that almost every culture on Earth has its own distinct concept of what a dragon looks like. And, with UbiHole's tendency to redesign HOMM monsters, they could just as easily have gone for  something like this, if they wanted a somewhat unique dragon


Why should they have made a dragon like that?
What they wanted was to make a chinese dragon for the sanctuary,not a unique dragon.

paired with the water and the naga(snake)-theme,it was only natural to use blue and green colours,which explains the colours of the quirin.

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The_Polyglot
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posted May 29, 2011 10:07 PM
Edited by The_Polyglot at 22:44, 29 May 2011.

Quote:
But that dragons head is entirely different from the kirin.
The only things they have in common is that both have quadruple legs and the color scheme.
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My point exactly. There are many ways to draw a recognizable dragon,(albeit the general consensus is that they are kind of big, and scaly )  so they could have designed one without necessarily looking to NWC for inspiration.

EDIT: @Davy:

I'm not saying they should have aimed for a similar dragon, I just wanted to argue a bit with Avirosb about whether it was inevitable that Ubisoft's Kirin design turned out like the Firewolf's, so it could be recognizable as a dragon, or not. I am of the opinion that it was just a lucky coincidence, while Avirosb stated that there was "only so many ways to draw a recognizable dragon", so I asked my friend Google to show me recognizable dragons, which were not at all like the Kirin, to illustrate my point, which is that due to their cultural omnipresence, dragons can and will be drawn in a ton of different ways, and still remain dragons. Anyways, sorry for temporarily derailing the topic, wasn't intentional  
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Avirosb
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posted May 29, 2011 10:13 PM

And my point was that they didn't

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Jabanoss
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posted May 29, 2011 10:24 PM

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How do you know Shackles is in the game?

I don't know that, it was an example of an artifact that in my opinion is "always" vital and will take the misc-slot. And this of course leads to boring play when you always have the same artifact no mater what strategy you use. (and yes ofc I remove the shackles when doing serious creeping...)
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xerox
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posted May 29, 2011 11:13 PM

im so sad that it was cancelled, but yet I realize that the graphics of that game would be so outdated by the time H5 came out and the series might have died off completly after it

it had some very cool ideas, like the Valkyries and Firewolves!

Inferno did not seem to be in, but yet Haven looked more boring than in any other game.

The black dragon doesnt fit into the lizard town at all.

I really want Sorceress back instead of the boring wood elves...

and gaaaaah I cant wait for H6! I want beta now, but its like a month away! I want gameplay videos! feeeeeed me!
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18w4531g00
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posted May 30, 2011 02:46 AM

My impression of what I have seen on the UBI site:
Heaven looks rudiculous. Large weapons and somehow linked to the Roman Empire, higher tier is made up of skinny female spirits. This is stupid. The way units look is rudiculous.
Inferno looks better but not good. I didn`t get it why the Cerberus has two heads when in mythology it has three and a snake as its tale? How incompetent should you be to create this?
Necropolis looks fine but the tier 7 - what the hell is this?
Orcs - they look fine, I would change the look of the cyclops more towards Heroes 5 but it is still not a big issue.
And this new faction - the Sanctuary...who approved this and who was the man with ( lack of ) inspiration that managed this? It looks awful, pointless and funny.
If this is the game to be released ( I bet so ) - I would pass by and not buy this. Doesn`t look worth even a few euros. And I saw a thread about some work in progress for the nordic nation, god this was really stupid. Jormungandr as 1st level ( the earth worm that killed the major god Thor during Ragnarok ), then some stupid things made out of ice which say to me: "I`m sorry but we know nothing about nordic mythology and we are too busy to read at least on wikipedia and decided it will be cool to put some things made out of ice" and Fenrir as last tier - Fenrir and Jormungandr are of the same mother and father god damn people and both have their role during Ragnarok. I understand that Ubisoft are trying to be innovative and refresh the game but do it properly.

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DagothGares
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posted May 30, 2011 02:49 AM

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And I saw a thread about some work in progress for the nordic nation, god this was really stupid.
Probably a fan creation.

And you can cut the negativity. Gorgons aren't immortal and hydras don't grow extra heads. The world won't end.
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torin856
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posted May 30, 2011 07:38 AM

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And I saw a thread about some work in progress for the nordic nation


Dude... wait, what?

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Elvin
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posted May 30, 2011 07:44 AM

@18w4531g00
So a game's worth to you is strictly measured in lore accuracy and lineup creativity? Sad, especially since you don't seem to know the first thing about the game.
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MrDragon
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posted May 30, 2011 08:05 AM

Must be a troll, quite simply no other option, the lower half of his post clearly indicates he has no idea what's actually going on if he's serious.

And if he truly is serious, I pity him, but am thankful I won't be seeing him online when playing HoMMVI.

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Elvin
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posted May 30, 2011 08:08 AM

I've seen enough silly complaining to last me a few lifetimes, anything is possible
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Avirosb
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posted May 30, 2011 08:34 AM

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So a game's worth to you is strictly measured in lore accuracy and lineup creativity? Sad

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MrDragon
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posted May 30, 2011 09:39 AM

By the way, about the Cerberus situation.
Whilst the 3 headed dog is the most common depiction, Cerberus' shape has in traditional pottery, sculpture, literary depiction and other ancient media been portrayed with quite literraly two to fifty heads, manes of serpents and other monstrous traits.
Three headed is merely the most traditional. (and I will say, may favorite depiction)

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DoubleDeck
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posted May 30, 2011 10:32 AM

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The hero stats are as shown here, that hasn't changed. Knowledge is no longer in, mana is calculated in another way.

PS don't try to compare with the unit stats on the right, you will draw incorrect conclusions.


Yes, what we know is that the primary stats are might attack, might, defense, magic attack (spellpower), magic defense (could be to do with protection and not resistance).

Mana seems to be a stat on it's own now. I am putting it out there but maybe mana increases as your hero level increases. A Might hero's mana could increase in low increments, but a magic hero's mana increases in high increments....

No longer do we have factions that get tons of mana (eg. wizard from H5) so magic heroes from all H6 factions could have the same increments in this mana build...excluding other areas where mana could increase (artifacts, abilities, etc.)

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Elvin
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posted May 30, 2011 10:57 AM

Actually mana is calculated by (magic power + magic defense) x 10 but there are certain abilities and locations that can add to it. The fist icon is about the hero's melee attack.
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Avirosb
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posted May 30, 2011 10:58 AM

Yay for music rearrangements!
This is fanservice I can get behind.

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MrDragon
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posted May 30, 2011 11:00 AM
Edited by MrDragon at 11:01, 30 May 2011.

Campaign Menu music is kinda nice... extreme Heroes of Might and Magic vibe to it, in fact, if you told me that it was in fact an updated track from II or III I wouldn't be surprised.

Not exactly mind blowing, but I do truly feel like it's a piece of music from the franchise, and that is a pretty darn good compliment I'd say, HoMM Music is awesome.

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Elvin
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posted May 30, 2011 11:12 AM

It is a remix, have you forgotten already?
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