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Brukernavn
Brukernavn

Hero of Order
posted June 14, 2011 08:25 AM

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Any word on how one should go about getting a beta key? Or is it a totally random thing, barring a select few (and if so, what pool are they drawing from)?

Those who pre-ordered will get access.

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Avirosb
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posted June 14, 2011 11:09 AM
Edited by Avirosb at 11:32, 14 Jun 2011.


This is clearly not a Fire Elemental but a Magma Elemental.
Either that, or it has just eaten a Rock Eleme— Sorry, Earth Elemental.
Still looks better than the Energy Air Elemental though. 3/5

Edit: Phoenix - Looks alright, for an esper if HoMM was Final Fantasy.
I'm no modder, but I think changing its colors will be easy enough.
Bonus points for having a happy expression and Don King hair. 3/5

Mermaid - Why does it have a navel? For that matter, why does it have mammaries? Why the nose and not gills?
The answer: It's a fantasy game.
And drop those stupid shell cups, C'mon.
Either come up with something clever and original or don't be afraid to show some nudity.
Bonus point for color scheme, negative points for funny headgear and the same generic face that 90% of all female units seem to have in common. 1/5

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted June 14, 2011 11:30 AM

I must say, this is the best looking fire elemental we had ever had.

It looks dangerous, intimidating and it is not a primitive flame formed into a "Creature like" shape (Which is a point that Avirosb seem to dislike)

I like how they go over the borders whit the elementals. true they make them more general in description, they make them at the same time look more adaptable to different situations and places.  
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Nocturnal
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posted June 14, 2011 11:54 AM

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Is anyone else choosing not to play Heroes 6 BETA b/c they don't want to spoil the surprise?  Instead of playing a portion of the game to try to fix bugs, I want to start it up to immerse myself for the first time.  I'm just wondering if I'm the only person who is like this lol.


I was also like you. But now, I am out of patience for the game and I will play the beta. Also, your surprise will be spoilt anyway as everyone will talk about it when the beta becomes available. I wouldn't like to stare at the screen not knowing what people are talking about.

When is it again? 26 June, right?
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MrDragon
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Eats people with Ketchup
posted June 14, 2011 11:55 AM

Considering previous incarnations of Fire Elementals in both Heroes and other games, the incorperation of lava and semi-molten rocks is nothing worth being fussy about, it quite literally adds some weight to the element most often associated with aggresion and destructive power.
(Though there are other ways to achieve that effect without directly implying rock... like here)
Despite everything said, I'd still say that specifically for this series, it's the best looking Fire Elemental, considering it's competition though... the Fire Elemental in the Heroes series has in my opinion never been really that impressive.

I very much like the new twist on the Phoenix, but this artwork is nothing new, we've seen it ages ago.

And the Mermaid, mix of old and new influences, not particularly fond of it, but don't really dislike it either.
I'm also pro-"removing mammilian traits of non-mammals unless there is a good reason for it." which is arguable for Mermaids if you interpret them as a creature supposed to seduce mortal men or as a hybrid of mammal and fish through supernatural forces, like the Griffin.
But purely fish mermaids, I could very much see that working, even without making them monstrous, I think it would have indeed pleased me more.

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Brukernavn
Brukernavn

Hero of Order
posted June 14, 2011 01:01 PM

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When is it again? 26 June, right?

28th of June.

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mike80d
mike80d


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Map Maker
posted June 14, 2011 02:04 PM

I like the fire/magma elemental, and think it's second only to the Homm4 fire elemental (especially their animation of smoke out of the eyes).  

It is always difficult for me to judge the creature art b/c we have routinely seen a creature look very different in the game than in the art.  I personally judge off of how it looks in the game.  If the Phoenix is large, powerful, and mystical then I think it can work with the color, etc.  

There are things about the mermaid which I like, but I agree with Avirosb that the face is generic.  Many of the faces (both male & female) for the heroes and female units seem European to me, which makes sense.  Not a complaint, just an observation.

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Jabanoss
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posted June 14, 2011 02:05 PM
Edited by Jabanoss at 14:07, 14 Jun 2011.

Beauty Overwhelming!

The mermaid is so hot! I mean I already knew she was beautiful, but to look at she her like this close up is just great.
But Avirosb has a point, they really should cut the shell cups.

(still hate the idea of a mermaid though...)


The Phoenix and Fire Elemental are okay, nothing too special, but certainly not bad.
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mike80d
mike80d


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posted June 14, 2011 02:10 PM

With regards to my choice not to participate in BETA, its not b/c I don't like helping the community or don't want to see a creature mechanic, but b/c it ruins the whole feel of the game for me.  And let's not forget that the payment for helping fix bugs is the fact that you get to play the game earlier than others.

For those sensitive to the town window subject, my best analogy would be if someone gave you 1/3 of the town window (that didn't take up the full screen) to play with for 2 months.  I'd prefer to wait until I get the whole thing b/c I want to immerse myself in it and get the total experience.  I'm not trying to avoid learning about the campaign, a creature mechanic, if a faction is overpowerered, or anything in particular.  Therefore I'd be happy to come here still and hear what you guys think of it.  What I am avoiding is breaking the game into pieces before seeing it as its meant to be seen.  I can't wait to load it up for the first time!

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Wckey
Wckey


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posted June 14, 2011 02:18 PM

Looking at these elementals, if the water elementar is like the Mizu Kami I have to say it's out of place. So far elementals look menacing. But I have to say, I don't like very much the fire and air elementals.

Phoenix is great, the best neutral so far. At least we have an HD picture of it.

And am I the only one who really likes the mermaid? I don't know why so many don't like it.

Also, another week without having any idea of how light and water elementals look like. Is Ubihole really this afraid of revealing them?
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Fauch
Fauch


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posted June 14, 2011 02:19 PM

looks good, but this is the 1st thing that came to my mind when I saw it : link

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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted June 14, 2011 02:23 PM

Yay, finally they release the neutral artworks. Looking forward (?) to the drama of Water and Light Elemental if they are indeed different from Spring Spirit and Glory.
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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


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Look into my eyes...
posted June 14, 2011 03:01 PM

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Yay, finally they release the neutral artworks. Looking forward (?) to the drama of Water and Light Elemental if they are indeed different from Spring Spirit and Glory.


I reckon they'll be the same with a few minor colour alterations (aesthetic) but different abilities....as per Christmas tree...

Air Elemental -> Flyer. looks like it's got some lightning strike ability
Earth Elemental -> Roots for feet (treant abilities?)
Fire Elemental -> Flyer.
Mermaid -> Rests on it's tail so can go on land, looks like might have some medusa affect too
Phoenix -> Flyer. Larger than 2x2 blocks? It's wings are huge so probably 4x4....

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Brukernavn
Brukernavn

Hero of Order
posted June 14, 2011 03:02 PM

I think the elementals look surprisingly good, actually I like all the neutrals! I can't see the glory and spring spirit fitting into the style of the other elementals, but we'll just have to wait and see. It's impressing if they can make the wolf look good as well!

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Dave_Jame
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted June 14, 2011 04:57 PM

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The earth and air elemental look fine (STILL #)(%&U)(#&*%)&#) at elementals tho) but the fire, uhm LAVA elemental looks horrible, is it so difficult to create a re-worked HOMM3 fire elemental and make it more menacing? I hate magma-creatures so i'm not a big fan of it.

The mermaids lower body looks fine, but the name still haunts me at nights.

The Phoenix is the best unit in the game, finally something with a little bit uniqueness and suprise in it, finally something really different and cool at the same time.

Also... two copied light and water elementals and two wolves? What were they drinking? It's so funny because they FREAKING KNOW that most breathing creatures already dislike the Glory and Spring Spirit on their own, now they add the most hated creatures TWICE in the game... its really hilarious, they think we give them two instead maybe they start liking them better that way, well guess what, I for one start disliking them even more.

What is wrong with Gargoyles, Hydras and Minotaurs?


Well Nighty the fire elemental thing may be because of the fact that "You are the first one, and I hope the last one, who defended the Heroes 3/MaM VII/MaM VIII fire elemental" Seriously if you want to look at a human body covered in flames flying around like a superman go watch the fantastic fore.

Also You are overdoing it whit the Greek part again



Now to the general topic
Mermaid: I Really like this unite, Not many Fantasy games actually use them so it is something unique. I Also like the Gray color of her upper body (if it would by skin color I could be on the rage side). The thing I like the most is the lower/fish body that just look asowem and I love all the fins around the body.

The phoenix.. The Phoenix.. Is it just me, or is this artwork in a lot worse quality then all the other. Plus what is wrong whit his head? It look like a claw crown that the white dragon from Disciples 2 had. It looked good on him but not in this case. On the plus sides,I like the wig fethrs and the fact that it actually looks like a bird.
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mike80d
mike80d


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Map Maker
posted June 14, 2011 05:01 PM

I agree partially with Nightterror, though part of your post I find a bit difficult to read/understand.  Probably just a language barrier thing.

The Phoenix definitely is unique, which is a good start.  Still, I want to see how it looks in game, and in particular in combat, before I fully judge.

The Mermaid's lower half is definitely unique and a nice mix from the usual fish-tail we've grown accustomed to seeing.

I'm in agreeance too with the ridiculousness of copying the models from the least appealing creatures to create the other light & water elementals.

However, after re-looking at the Homm3 fire elemental, don't you think that it is just a copy of the other elementals but with different colors?  Isn't that your complaint with the current Heroes 6 air/water models?  I personally don't think a fire elemental should be a person on fire, while a water elemental is essentially the same person but surrounded by water.

Elementals should be a manifestation of the power of that element.  There's no need to even make it have eyes, hands, or feet.  

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Davy
Davy


Known Hero
posted June 14, 2011 05:04 PM

The neutrals look quite good in my opinion,so far the elementals we've seen look really great,they look way better than their versions in any of the old heroes games.

I mean,ok the fire elemental has also lava,but I think this is good to give it some matter.

The phoenix looks pretty cool and the mermaid looks ok.

I also think it is kinda stupid to rage about the water and light elemental,before we see them,I mean,yes there is a certain chance,that they ruin it and turn them into copies of the glory and the spring spirit,but only time will tell if thats true or not.

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What is wrong with Gargoyles, Hydras and Minotaurs?


nothing,they just have to wait a little bit more until their factions come with the expansions,academy and dungeon were just not able to make it into the standard game.

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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted June 14, 2011 05:14 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 17:16, 14 Jun 2011.

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Well Nighty the fire elemental thing may be because of the fact that "You are the first one, and I hope the last one, who defended the Heroes 3/MaM VII/MaM VIII fire elemental"

Hey man, the upgrade was awesome.
No elemental will ever be more awesome than the Psychic and Magic ones. They killed with their minds

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admira
admira


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Famous Hero
posted June 14, 2011 05:35 PM

mmmmm the facebook page "75,000 like" is loosing its pace. Oh well, maybe the exclusive Neutral Creature pictures is actually the Phoenix or/and Mermaid

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Kenishi
Kenishi


Famous Hero
passed out drunk in Tavern's
posted June 14, 2011 05:58 PM
Edited by Kenishi at 18:02, 14 Jun 2011.

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Is anyone else choosing not to play Heroes 6 BETA b/c they don't want to spoil the surprise?  Instead of playing a portion of the game to try to fix bugs, I want to start it up to immerse myself for the first time.  I'm just wondering if I'm the only person who is like this lol.

That is understandable but a beta isn't all fun and games. You volunteer to help so that thousands and thousands of players will have a better gaming experience. To know that you helped improve the game for everyone. I can sympathise but still find it a bit of a selfish decision.


 True and I agree with your opinion Elvin but I just have a issue with the way companies/publishers deal with the open beta ... they sell it as a privilege you get by per-ordering the game or other gimmicks and is a bit insulting to it's user intelligent (at list thats the way I see it), we all know and most would be happy to help in the game development even by playing a buggy beta stage for the game taking the crashes and some PC failures to iron out and give us at the lunch day a fully functional and bug free game so way do they fell the need to make it a privileged think and sell it like something that is an extra and a functional part of the game by paying extra. (Money is money and the work for it but still ...)
And yes I understand you need to trim out people because  1000 testers are sufficient but there could be other ways to select them.

 Now back on topic ... nice elementals so far the all look more menacing than in other installments of Heroes, as for the Phoenix ... well I would have to see it in game the concept looks good but I'm worried of how the wings are going to look in game , because so fare the wings for Angels don't look good at all, but am getting ahead of myself can't wait to see tomorrows neutral.

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About the mermaid  .. without shells 16+ or Teen rated
                  .. with shell 12+ General Audience

Parents by games for kids = more money

Still I think that somewhere someone is going to mod it and give the world a 16+ in game model for the mermaid.  
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