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Brukernavn
Brukernavn

Hero of Order
posted June 17, 2011 02:33 PM

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So I am the only one here who pre-ordered the game from Steam? Why doesn't anyone reply my question which stretched the whole page  

Because it stretched the page, so no one could read it

But I can't help you because I've boycotted Steam ever since they introduced the retarded notion that 1$ = 1€.

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Karanshade
Karanshade


Adventuring Hero
posted June 17, 2011 03:19 PM

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So I am the only one here who pre-ordered the game from Steam? Why doesn't anyone reply my question which stretched the whole page


It is normal , what you get on steam I mean , not the extreme strech
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vitorsly
vitorsly


Known Hero
Joker!
posted June 17, 2011 04:23 PM
Edited by vitorsly at 16:25, 17 Jun 2011.

wolves have been shown completely disproving that there will be neutrals upgrading and the shadow elemental disproves that it was a storm elemental in a dark place! Also the shadow elemental makes me remember an invisible creature that could see invisible units from a great RTS that turned into an MMORPG. Anyone?
WHY DID YOU GIVE ME FALSE HOPES ELVIN!? WHY?!

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Lokheit
Lokheit


Known Hero
posted June 17, 2011 04:31 PM
Edited by Lokheit at 16:31, 17 Jun 2011.

As a Timberwolves NBA fan, I was happy to see timber wolves as unit

A question: are they the upgrade of dire wolves, or a different type of unit? Because the description describe their beheaviour as different.

About the mermaid, given the naga reference as friendly, and how certain naga unit looks like water elementals... could be possible that before the final build they are swapped? Well, we still have to see the real water elemental, but I would like that swap a lot. They wouldn't be the only former wizzard beastman unit on that faction.

They can fight on solid ground, so wouldn't be a real problem:


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Wckey
Wckey


Famous Hero
posted June 17, 2011 04:37 PM
Edited by Wckey at 16:39, 17 Jun 2011.

I hope one of the wolves will look different in the final game, because recolor is a sad thing
If they want to wolves that look the same, they could at least made one the upgrade of the other.
Nonetheless, I like the wolves (so, Should I expect now for a comment of Nightterror about how I say WOW at the stupid virtual wolf having rabies? )

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A question: are they the upgrade of dire wolves, or a different type of unit? Because the description describe their beheaviour as different.

They're different. Timber wolf is core and Dire one is elite.
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KingImp
KingImp


Famous Hero
posted June 17, 2011 04:50 PM

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But they're still holding back on Water and Light.


Are they, or are they considering the Spring Spirits and the Glories the Water and Light Elementals?

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Davy
Davy


Known Hero
posted June 17, 2011 05:00 PM

I like the shadow elemental,but I also think,that it looks a little bit too much like the air elemental.

The wolfs are more or less lame,the dire wolf is cool,but the timber wolf is just a normal wolf and a recolour of the dire wolf,I think they should have only made one of them.

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Anyway, I really like the blue phoenix, and HOPING AND PRAYING (to nothing as i'm not a believer) that they will give him the abilities I think they gonna give it, I hope something different than the usual reincarnation without anything special, I hope when it reincarnates something happens with it, he comes back stronger, in different form/color or whatever just for the cool factor and because the normal reincarnation is so boring... and this Phoenix is BLUE for gods sake!

Its awesome.


well the description does say,that some of the energy of the phoenix comes out,when he's reborn and that you should rather stay away from him,if this happens,so maybe he deals damage to all adjacent enemies,once he resurrects himself.

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Nocturnal
Nocturnal


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted June 17, 2011 05:14 PM

Sorry for the stretch people. I don't know how to show it as a thumbnail but when you click it opens the whole picture in a new window. Anyway. I guess I'll go mad on the beta date on how to play it. Maybe something will change then
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Seraphim
Seraphim


Supreme Hero
Knowledge Reaper
posted June 17, 2011 05:26 PM

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Shade would sound better yes.


Its just that maybe taking some more different names for the sake of difference would make the overall feel of the game better.

Water spirit>water elemental
Shades or Shadow walkers>darkness elemental
Efreet>Fire elemtal (Yes,efreets could be the new fire elementals for a change imo)
The only thing I can not come up with something is air elemntal since air spirit is more or less the same as water spirit.


But then,"Elemetal" is quite flexible,you can make an elemental out of everything.

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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted June 17, 2011 05:57 PM

So it was confirmed that there are 6 neutrals with the word "elemental" in them:

1. Fire elemental(elite)
2. Air elemental (elite)
3. Earth elemental (elite)
4. Shadow elemental (elite)
5. Light elemental (elite)(still to be revealed)
6. Water elemental (elite)(still to be revealed)
7. Mermaid (elite)
8. Phoenix (champion)
9. Timber wolf (core)
10. Dire wold (elite)

Hmmm....thought all neutrals would be elite, but there is a core one now...

So is this it? 10 neutrals total?




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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted June 17, 2011 06:00 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 18:04, 17 Jun 2011.

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recolor is a sad thing

Ya, tell that to the modders out there

Speaking of creature recycling, and looking back at the creature lineups of prior games,
I can tell that they - back then - at least tried to make every creature look different from each other (except for maybe the dragons but they were color coded so it didn't matter).
In H6 (from what I have seen) I feel there are too many creatures that greatly resemeble one another, either in name, appearance, or both.
It just feels uninspired.
I also wish they had given some of the female humanoids an expression other than "brooding" or "daydreaming".

So far, I think the animators have done a far better job than the art crew, but I guess the lore is to blame for the lack of diversity here.

In other positive news, I actually rather like the Phoenix,
although I don't get how a simple change of color is enough to be considered an innovation to some.

(Did that last sentence come out right? Second language and all that)

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted June 17, 2011 06:09 PM

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In other positive news, I actually rather like the Phoenix,
although I don't get how a simple change of color is enough to be considered an innovation to some.

(Did that last sentence come out right? Second language and all that)


Points at the Parrot-harpy and Zebra-Centaur.

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Lokheit
Lokheit


Known Hero
posted June 17, 2011 07:28 PM

Swap Water Spirits as neutral Water Elementals and put the mermaids on Sanctuary ranks! They are related as friendly on the bio, and fit perfectly! (I know, second time I'm saying this, but would be a great swap and frees one neutral spot for another creature )

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mike80d
mike80d


Famous Hero
Map Maker
posted June 17, 2011 07:39 PM

Why are all of the neutrals (minus Phoenix & timber wolf) Elite?  I think some more Core neutrals would be nice too.  And another Champion too

The wolves look like a less rabid version of the homm5 ones.  In other words, they look like ordinary wolves.  I guess if they are going for real life accuracy then they're a win, but something about the wolves doesn't seem fun.  

It's a shame that the Heroes 6 neutrals all seem generic & boring to me.  Fortunately I like many of the other creatures.  


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Seraphim
Seraphim


Supreme Hero
Knowledge Reaper
posted June 17, 2011 09:35 PM

Wolves are good because when they die,they make an enjoyable noise,like a dog getting afraid of something.
Meteor strom em!

I always enjoyed killing them allongside peasnts,elves and cerberi.


yes,i have something against dogs annoying and barking dogs.

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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
posted June 17, 2011 09:57 PM

Wolves are pretty much the silliest units, but they are better then nothing...

Love the ShadeShadow Elemental's artwork.
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SoilBurn
SoilBurn


Known Hero
BurnsSoil
posted June 17, 2011 10:34 PM

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So my guess is that they are cut and that these wolves replaced them...
As absurd as Nightterror's idea might sound, the same idea crossed my mind as well.
We all saw the Christmas tree and (for some yet unexplained reason) the only creatures not revealed yet are the rumored "Light" and "Water Elemental" - obvious rehashes of known faction creatures.

Oh, and incidentally we have two generic Wolves instead.

It still might be pure coincidence but I am not sold until we get some better explanation.


Concerning the new Neutrals:

Shadow Elemental - Can't wait to see it in action. Excellent idea to create a backstory that prevents it from appearing under direct sunlight. So simple but yet so subtle. I am rooting for caster or shooter of course.

Wolves - Booooooooooring. The only saving grace of the H5 wolf was the "call allies" ability when attacking, I hope it returns in the new Heroes as well (otherwise wolves are a bland unit with little tactical advantage)


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Eixty
Eixty

Tavern Dweller
posted June 18, 2011 12:45 AM

Heroes 6 is shaping up to be a worthy sequel to the other Heroes games, I really enjoyed the video of the combat mechanics.
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Kenishi
Kenishi


Famous Hero
passed out drunk in Tavern's
posted June 18, 2011 05:32 AM

  Yeh this might come a little latte but I just notice that on the main page was an announcement for giveaway beta keys … nice to see Ubihole is fare to its fans, still I stick with my opinion that most companies use the beta as an privileged think that you receive .
   Nice to se Ubisoft isn’t totally on the dark side of the business of making money by any means …  

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SBlister
SBlister


Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
posted June 18, 2011 09:40 AM

i'm all for replacing the spring spirit with the mermaids.

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