Heroes of Might and Magic Community
visiting hero! Register | Today's Posts | Games | Search! | FAQ/Rules | AvatarList | MemberList | Profile


Age of Heroes Headlines:  
13 Jan 2016: Horn of the Abyss 1.4 Available for Download! - read more
17 Dec 2015: Heroes 5.5 update, 1.6 out for H7 - read more
23 Nov 2015: H7 1.4 & 1.5 patches Released - read more
31 Oct 2015: First H7 patches are out, End of DoC development - read more
13 Oct 2015: Negative Reception of the Game, 2nd Patch Delayed - read more
29 Sep 2015: Heroes VII is Released, together with Bastion MOD for VCMI! - read more
4 Sep 2015: Polish Forge Town Released as a Heroes 3 MOD! - read more
25 Aug 2015: Heroes VII Beta #2 Starting Tomorrow! - read more
5 Aug 2015: First Details of Heroes VII Modding and new H5.5 patch! - read more
25 Jul 2015: First Look at Map Editor Teases RMG and Modding Tools! - read more
13 Jan 2016: Horn of the Abyss 1.4 Available for Download! - read more
[X] Remove Ads
LOGIN:     Username:     Password:         [ Register ]
New Server | HOMM1: info forum | HOMM2: info forum | HOMM3: info forum | HOMM4: info forum | HOMM5: info forum | MMH6: wiki forum | MMH7: wiki forum
Heroes Community > Heroes 6 - The New Beginning > Thread: ~ Heroes 6 - Discussion thread ~
Thread: ~ Heroes 6 - Discussion thread ~ This Super Thread is 525 pages long: 1 70 140 210 280 350 ... 419 420 421 422 423 ... 490 525 · «PREV / NEXT»
mike80d
mike80d


Famous Hero
Map Maker
posted June 20, 2011 05:48 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Blizzard was always really slow in fixing things in WoW.  It was frustrating.

If the Beta download is 4.5 gigs, are you guys able to tell us approximately how big the actual game is?  I'm excited its that big of a file so far.



I wonder why people like to mention Blizzard so often.

"I'm excited its that big of a file so far"
SO you will have to wait longer to downlaod it? Since when do larger filesizes mean more content?



If there are going to be language packs,be sure that the game will become at least 8 or 9 GB maybe and extra 1 gb for campaigns.




Not sure why you're so cynical, but I'd say a large file can often times mean there's a good amount of content, detail in graphics, etc.  Both of those things I put a lot of value in.  And considering this is just a BETA with only a few things available, that's a good sign to me.

Somebody mentioned Blizzard b/c the topic of patch updates came up in the thread.  Its a very simple statement to say "I hope Heroes 6 releases patches & updates faster than Blizzard did for WoW."  It provides a baseline that many here can relate to.  

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
admira
admira


Promising
Famous Hero
posted June 20, 2011 05:49 PM
Edited by admira at 18:07, 20 Jun 2011.

I think the Svetlana's phrase referring to duchies not creatures. If I recall it was informed by either Elvin or Cepheus

EDIT: Facebook update on pathfinder is updated:
Pathfinder

The hero spends no movement to pick up resources, access buildings and acomplish similar actions.
Passive ability - Rank 1

There's three levels to this ability. This is only level 1, but level 2 of Pathfinder adds the movement penalty reduction on rough terrains


 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Zenofex
Zenofex


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
posted June 20, 2011 06:32 PM

Quote:
it looks like the unicorn was split into 2 creatures : glory and sun crusader. more exactly, it is replaced by the glory, but the sun crusader involves a horse... they could as well make an unicorn rider, though, I'm not sure an armored guy fits with an unicorn. the light elemental could also be unicorn-like actually, if I'm not mistaken, in H5, unicorn are divine creatures, like angels.
What the hell, man!

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
MrDragon
MrDragon


Supreme Hero
Eats people with Ketchup
posted June 20, 2011 11:11 PM
Edited by MrDragon at 23:14, 20 Jun 2011.

Quote:
Back to Heroes, Isn't Scholar a bit to strong?

You mean just like it's always been?
Seriously, when was giving a hero a more then 20% of another higher level's hero exp, ever not rediculously powerful?
Never so strong that it broke the game, but strong enough that not having it put you at a severe disavdantage to the flexibility of an opponent that did have severel good heroes running around in addition to a really strong one.

I'd also say that the rule of discussions moving towards Blizz or Warcraft, Diablo, Starcraft or WoW (yes I mentioned Warcraft and WoW seperately, because the former is in my opinion vastly superior) is a MUCH older observation, naming it after one self at this point is little more then naive hubris.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted June 20, 2011 11:17 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 08:44, 21 Jun 2011.

Quote:
I'd also say that the rule of discussions moving towards Blizz or Warcraft, Diablo, Starcraft or WoW (yes I mentioned Warcraft and WoW seperately) is a MUCH older observation, naming it after one self at this point is little more then naive hubris.


Nope, Godwin was six years earlier.
Blizzard wasn't even a thing before SC (god I miss Lost Vikings)

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted June 21, 2011 08:35 AM

Quote:
Quote:
Back to Heroes, Isn't Scholar a bit to strong?

You mean just like it's always been?
Seriously, when was giving a hero a more then 20% of another higher level's hero exp, ever not rediculously powerful?
Never so strong that it broke the game, but strong enough that not having it put you at a severe disavdantage to the flexibility of an opponent that did have severel good heroes running around in addition to a really strong one.


Scholar and mentoring are different abilities, mentoring increases a secondary hero's experience in proportion to main hero (50% in H6) and Scholar in H5 is learning spells from another hero.....I don't think H6 will have Scholar as an ability as learning spells requires spending ability points, so would be an imbalanced ability Scholar.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
MrDragon
MrDragon


Supreme Hero
Eats people with Ketchup
posted June 21, 2011 08:57 AM
Edited by MrDragon at 08:58, 21 Jun 2011.

Quote:
Quote:
I'd also say that the rule of discussions moving towards Blizz or Warcraft, Diablo, Starcraft or WoW (yes I mentioned Warcraft and WoW seperately) is a MUCH older observation, naming it after one self at this point is little more then naive hubris.


Nope, Godwin was six years earlier.

I didn't mean Godwin predated Blizz (that would be pretty stupid).
I meant Seraphim naming it after himself.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
unicornblood
unicornblood


Hired Hero
Learning Human Soul
posted June 21, 2011 09:34 AM
Edited by unicornblood at 09:57, 21 Jun 2011.

Sorry for being so clumsy, but I have lost my link for the Christmas Tree pic. Can someone please be kind enough to give it to me again ?

Thank you in advance.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
alcibiades
alcibiades

Hero of Order
and Light
posted June 21, 2011 09:36 AM
Edited by alcibiades at 09:37, 21 Jun 2011.

Please don't go off-topic (that was aimed at the whole Blizzard discussion).
____________
Heroes 7 - News overview | Heroes 7 - Discussion thread

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | PP | Quote Reply | Link
Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted June 21, 2011 10:09 AM

Noted.
So now what? Are you beta guys allowed to discuss newly announced abilities?


Quote:
Sabotage Mine

At the price of all his remaining movement, the hero can sabotage an enemy mine. The mine's production stops for 7 days. An enemy hero can repair the mine, at the cost of all his remaining movement.

Active ability - Rank 2



Quote:
Architect III

Once per day the hero can visit a town and enable a second daily building to be constructed.

Passive ability - Rank 3



Quote:
Visions

Reveals the skills of an enemy hero on the Adventure Map and the exact number of troops in his army.

Active ability - Rank 1

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted June 21, 2011 10:10 AM

Quote:
Sorry for being so clumsy, but I have lost my link for the Christmas Tree pic. Can someone please be kind enough to give it to me again ?

Thank you in advance.


Christmas tree: http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=33727&pagenumber=226

Notice we are still waiting for 1 and 11 creatures (water and light elemental)

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted June 21, 2011 10:50 AM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 11:46, 21 Jun 2011.

So the visions back. good to hear that.

The Architect ability sounds some how unbalanced. IT is ussefull at the beginning but it is a 3rd rank ability so good only for building up new towns in the later game.

The Sabotage skill is nice. I like it do to the fact that we can't use the same strategy to capture mines. this makes mine catching very inovativ. and is a nice combination whit Mentoring.
____________
I'm just a Mirror of your self.

We see, we look, we gather, we store, we teach.
We are many, and you can be one of us.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted June 21, 2011 11:05 AM

I find it odd that Sabotage Mine is a skill, whereas Reconstruct Mine - a task which obviously require more effort and resources if not done magically - is not, AFAIK.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted June 21, 2011 11:26 AM
Edited by Elvin at 11:27, 21 Jun 2011.

Not so much if you think of it from a gameplay perspective. A good analogy would be harassing the opponent's mines that he will have to reclaim. It does make sense having a skill that forces to opponent to do something about it than one that solely works as a counter to something the opponent may or not have.
____________
The good news is that I have absolutely no idea what I am doing!

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted June 21, 2011 11:37 AM

Yes, but as it says; enemy heroes can just repair the mines with no need of a counterskill, so to speak.
But then again, I'm probably wrong. 'Sabotage' isn't exactly synonymous with 'collapse'.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Crayfish
Crayfish


Known Hero
posted June 21, 2011 11:50 AM

I don't get sabotage mine. You're going to move your level 10+ hero into an enemy zone of control and... sabotage a mine? That's all?

I'll stick with combat oriented skills thank you very much.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Zenofex
Zenofex


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
posted June 21, 2011 12:01 PM

It's rather obvious that this is a skill for scouts/secondary heroes. Good one at that.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted June 21, 2011 01:25 PM

So we have 5 skill sets coming off the might ablities:

Paragon - Improving Hero himself
Realm - Management of Kingdom
Tactics - Affecting battlefield?
War cries - Casted by Hero onto troops?
Warfare - Improving troops on Hero?

On Realm, the Sabotage mine: obviously would sabotage an emeny mine right at the end of the turn, to maximise the movement of the hero. The sabotaging hero has to be on the mine to affect this, does the enemy hero have to go onto the mine as well to repair? Seems worthless if the mine is more than 7 days away.....unless secondary heroes haev this ability....

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
mike80d
mike80d


Famous Hero
Map Maker
posted June 21, 2011 02:25 PM

Quote:
It's rather obvious that this is a skill for scouts/secondary heroes. Good one at that.


Exactly.  If your secondary hero with a small/moderate army is able to shut down a gold mine for 7-days that could have some big impact.  I like this skill!  

Too often in past games the secondary heroes were only useful for transporting creatures.  

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted June 21, 2011 02:34 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 14:34, 21 Jun 2011.

And seizing mines/collecting resources.

 Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link
Jump To: « Prev Thread . . . Next Thread » This Super Thread is 525 pages long: 1 70 140 210 280 350 ... 419 420 421 422 423 ... 490 525 · «PREV / NEXT»
Post New Poll    Post New Topic    Post New Reply

Page compiled in 0.1650 seconds