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Thread: ~ Heroes 6 - Discussion thread ~ [ This thread is 525 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 (491) 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 ]
Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted September 12, 2011 02:40 AM
Edited by Avirosb at 02:41, 12 Sep 2011.

The voice acting is decent enough, but I hate that bird.
I actually rather like Slava (minus the name, think I'll just call him Slave from now on); his in-game model reminds me of Bruce Campbell in a chinny chin chin-esque way.

I hope they've fixed the lackluster sound effects in the demo, I think the ghosts and succubi share the same "death noise".

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Grishnak
Grishnak


Hired Hero
posted September 12, 2011 05:39 AM

Liked it too. Since I'm a slowpoke and like to take my time, finishing demo took me around 5-6 hours and I really enjoyed it. As for the voice acting, Slava annoys the crap out of me but luckily Kraal is pretty decent, a bit to "civilized" sometimes, but I like his attitude

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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted September 12, 2011 05:40 AM

Excluding neutral spells we can see spell schools leading towards blood or tears (especially light magic towards tears):

Light magic -> 82% tears
Earth magic -> 70% tears
Water magic -> 56% tears

Dark magic -> 67% blood
Fire magic -> 64% blood
Air magic -> 57% blood

Prime -> mostly neutral spells

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted September 12, 2011 07:01 AM

Yes I am hoping that the schools will be equalized a bit as soon as new spells are added. PS I love Slava and Kraal's voice actor Add to it that nostalgic tune and it all falls into place.
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I gotta say I'm starting to feel
a bit elitist now that the qp
starts to sink into my
subconscius.
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alcibiades
alcibiades

Hero of Order
Really, Ubisoft?
posted September 12, 2011 07:34 AM

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PS. I love Slava and Kraal's voice actor Add to it that nostalgic tune and it all falls into place.
Kraals voice actor was horrible. How much cliché can you throw into the concept of an Orc that doesn't speak very well? Boring. But Sveltana's actor did an outstanding job.
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Avirosb
Avirosb


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Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted September 12, 2011 07:38 AM
Edited by Avirosb at 07:41, 12 Sep 2011.

^ Blame the script, not the actor.

EDIT: Gerhart's a funny guy
"*nyuk, nyuk, nyuk*, I'm so evil!"

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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted September 12, 2011 07:42 AM

He is that
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Speak again of
that profound, eternal essence
which permeates all
things

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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


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Supreme Hero
posted September 12, 2011 07:48 AM
Edited by Nelgirith at 07:49, 12 Sep 2011.

I love most of the voices, especially Irina and Anton (from the trailer), but I particularly hate the Nagas which feel like listening to a text-to-speech software

Some dialogs are a bit over the top (like the Orc jokes which are just ridiculous) or quite insipid (like the ending of Irina's campaign map), but generally, it's pleasant to listen/read and the story feels like it could be very interesting.

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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted September 12, 2011 08:45 AM

Quote:
Yes I am hoping that the schools will be equalized a bit as soon as new spells are added.

Are there more spells going to be added to the vanilla game????

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted September 12, 2011 08:53 AM

I think the chance for that is relatively nonexistent. But one can have hopes for the future eh?
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I gotta say I'm starting to feel
a bit elitist now that the qp
starts to sink into my
subconscius.
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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted September 12, 2011 09:04 AM

Not sure if many spells will get added in future, maybe two or three....

Just on this whole blood and tears thing with spells, would it be worthwhile going for light magic if you go for haven magic hero and blood route? I think yes cos my understanding is that the light magic spells will still cast efficiently, but just not as efficient as tears route...(since most light spells are tears)

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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


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Supreme Hero
posted September 12, 2011 09:22 AM

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Not sure if many spells will get added in future, maybe two or three....

Just on this whole blood and tears thing with spells, would it be worthwhile going for light magic if you go for haven magic hero and blood route? I think yes cos my understanding is that the light magic spells will still cast efficiently, but just not as efficient as tears route...(since most light spells are tears)

Your main issue would be about gaining enough blood points to reach the blood classes. You can gain up to 5 rep points per combat (in x1 settings) and you'll gain points from the spells you'll cast the first. If you cast Retribution Aura in turn 1, then Celestial Armor in turn 2 and Healing in turn 3, that would already make 3 tears points (or rather 3 wasted blood points).

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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted September 12, 2011 11:31 AM

Yes, but can blood magic hero benefit, with his high hero level, the effect of the tear spells?

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Zenofex
Zenofex


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
posted September 12, 2011 11:36 AM

That's hardly a dilemma anyway, Haven are predisposed to the Tear path. Like the majority of the factions/hero classes. Most of the Blood classes are considerably inferior to their Tear counterparts in terms of efficiency and you are hardly motivated to follow the Blood path. Rejoice and leave the neutrals flee at will.

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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


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Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted September 13, 2011 05:09 AM
Edited by DoubleDeck at 05:10, 13 Sep 2011.

How does one increase reputation points:

1. Fighting a battle (blood) or letting them flee (tears)
2. By the use of active spells/warcries for each reputation during combat?
3. Campaign - story driven

Are there any other ways to increase points? Maybe point 2 above is also not correct.....

It seems that the tears path will take longer, as it will be a while before neutrals flee from you (when you have a big army)...

@Zenofex -> Is tears really better than blood?

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BlazeHun
BlazeHun


Adventuring Hero
posted September 13, 2011 05:14 AM

I see a lot of complaints about high level spell damage being low.
Imo tier 3 spell masteries should be added +% spell damage, to the + 3 magic damage they already give.
This way magic heroes would be more distinct from might heroes, while magic damage creatures won't become overpowered.
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BlazeHun
BlazeHun


Adventuring Hero
posted September 13, 2011 05:16 AM

Quote:
How does one increase reputation points:

1. Fighting a battle (blood) or letting them flee (tears)
2. By the use of active spells/warcries for each reputation during combat?
3. Campaign - story driven

Are there any other ways to increase points? Maybe point 2 above is also not correct.....

It seems that the tears path will take longer, as it will be a while before neutrals flee from you (when you have a big army)...

@Zenofex -> Is tears really better than blood?


4. By choosing between attack or defense in adventure building.
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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


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Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted September 13, 2011 05:29 AM

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4. By choosing between attack or defense in adventure building.

Adventure building? you mean Skills/Abilities building (Paragon)?

But choosing attack skill won't increase the blood points immediately, only when you "use" it in battle?

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BlazeHun
BlazeHun


Adventuring Hero
posted September 13, 2011 05:31 AM

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Quote:
4. By choosing between attack or defense in adventure building.

Adventure building? you mean Skills/Abilities building (Paragon)?

But choosing attack skill won't increase the blood points immediately, only when you "use" it in battle?


I mean adventure map buildings:

http://might-and-magic.ubi.com/heroes-6/en-GB/game/buildings/index.aspx

There is a building where you should choose attack or defense. As I know this choice gives you either blood or tear points.
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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted September 13, 2011 09:22 AM
Edited by Avirosb at 09:24, 13 Sep 2011.

What's the dealio with that heroes 'legacy' nonsense?
The heroes from M&M/H2/H3 are not same as those from ... that new game.
And name drop a little more, why dontcha?

Angst!

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