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Thread: ~ Heroes 6 - Discussion thread ~ [ This thread is 525 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 (64) 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 ]
Tomofob
Tomofob


Hired Hero
posted December 17, 2010 11:33 AM
Edited by Tomofob at 11:34, 17 Dec 2010.

I just realized that the cyclop on this picture looks like a behemoth from Clive Barker's Jericho... Not sure if I like that

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pei
pei


Famous Hero
Fresh Air.
posted December 17, 2010 12:33 PM

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Sorry, Az, but in real life I'm busy wrestling bears so in games I try to keep in touch with my feminine side.


lol

for what ive seen i dont like stronghold, i wont re-write all the rants i read before but its about the same thing these  fellows are saying.

It could help A LOT to have one unit over an animal though.

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OmegaDestroyer
OmegaDestroyer

Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
posted December 17, 2010 01:35 PM

I may have missed it, but why did they decide to dumb down the resource system?
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bixie
bixie


Promising
Legendary Hero
my common sense is tingling!
posted December 17, 2010 01:39 PM

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Just browsed through this thread a bit... holy **** why so much hate towards my most beloved orcs? They're big, mean, nasty, smell bad, thirst for blood, low IQ, had a "They've killed Kenni - You snows" reference in their campaign, have epic sideboobs, no regards for tier 1 labour unions (read Bixies epic epic story of the Goblin Agitator´), use their tier 1 units as ammo, have a Cyclops that can seriously f*** s*** up and SHOOTS LAZORSSS OMG!!! and and and they haven't invented the bra yet Oo! COME ON GUYS!! What's not to love? Oh yes baby orcs are in and going to kick some serious a$$! Eat it all you sissy, wannabe treehugging, poetry loving, metrosexual greenpeace activists!


I regret to inform all that Badrant, the goblin agitator, was killed off in an unfortunate accident involving an equal pay march and a drunken cyclops. he will be sorely missed.

luckily, his twin bother nicked his name, clothing and possibly his teeth and will be continuing to campaign for the equal rights of the downtrodden goblin class until the nearest cheiftan wanders over.  
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Xerox
Xerox


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
posted December 17, 2010 01:40 PM

because they want more e-sport in HoMM I guess (SC-style) but it kinda fails since it is a turn-based game without a huge player base plus the strategy in heroes has never really been that expansive

for instance, in lets say Starcraft 2 you probably build different combinations of units every time and build X unit to counter Y unit and when the enemy builds Z unit, you counter with Å unit et cetera.
In the Heroes game, you always have the same line-up of 7 creatures. This could be fixed a bit though if alternate upgrades were included and you could alternate upgrade outside of towns or that there was more of a H4 system when it comes to creature line-ups.
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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
posted December 17, 2010 01:59 PM
Edited by Jabanoss at 14:01, 17 Dec 2010.

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The jaguar guy has nothing to do with the slayer we knew. If you see his abilities and description(!) you are gonna love it

Well you better be right, because as of now I much rather have a Wyvern
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You mean the guy with skulls on his hands?
Definetly looks like an orc.

Now whine please

How can someone seriously want that, that "thing" instead of a Wyvern?!
Just hope he isn't a copy of the brawler...
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Sorry if it's a stupid question, but it there something said about the storyline of the fourth brother/sister?

All we know...

He is a B@sterd son of Duke Slava of Griffin (aka the fourth brother)
here is a nice artwork (at least I guess it's him )
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jwallstone
jwallstone

Tavern Dweller
posted December 17, 2010 02:21 PM
Edited by jwallstone at 14:23, 17 Dec 2010.

Can I just say that I've always thought it hilarious that the Cyclops has turned into a shooter. It makes no sense - it's got ONE eye, and hence zero depth perception.

This is the LAST guy I'd want throwing things.

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watcher83
watcher83


Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
posted December 17, 2010 02:21 PM
Edited by watcher83 at 14:22, 17 Dec 2010.

I like how the stronghold looks. Just 2 questions:
1. Is the cyclops champion or elite?
2. we have goblin, harpie, mauler, centaur, shaman, cyclops and...what?
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zazu1
zazu1


Adventuring Hero
Makes Sense
posted December 17, 2010 02:24 PM

I agree bassically 100% with what Nightterror says.  Also, I think that with H6 graphics that culd make a pretty awsome Behemoth, No armor or weapons, Just strait out BEAST.

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FuntimeManchop
FuntimeManchop


Adventuring Hero
Adventure!
posted December 17, 2010 02:31 PM

If Barbarians are the speedykillers, worshiping Father Sky makes sense to me as Air magic would include Lighning Bolt and Haste.

I think Mother Earth and Father Sky are gonna be the big bad bosses.
This means no Behemoth. Unless Mother Earth looks like one.
Would Father Sky be a Thunderbird or a Dragon?


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Danny
Danny


Famous Hero
posted December 17, 2010 02:38 PM

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And I hardly think shes a leader(no not because shes a woman), just because you have a human hero in a faction does not mean they are the faction leader...


Apart from the Haven dude, I doubt any of them will be the "faction leader" but they are still some kind of leaders since armies of particular races will likely follow them into the succession wars, I'm sure all 5 will be more than "just heroes".

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Meundmein
Meundmein


Adventuring Hero
Tricky, tricky Death...
posted December 17, 2010 02:38 PM

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If Barbarians are the speedykillers, worshiping Father Sky makes sense to me as Air magic would include Lighning Bolt and Haste.

I think Mother Earth and Father Sky are gonna be the big bad bosses.
This means no Behemoth. Unless Mother Earth looks like one.
Would Father Sky be a Thunderbird or a Dragon?



Oh yes please That would solve the Roc/Thunderbirdproblem

I was a teeny bit dissapointed cause I was 100% expecting Academy, but then I saw the harpy and the shaman and I thought "what the heck, they're cool enough".
But well, Academy and Sylvan not being on H6 vanilla sure shows us that they're going to be a cool expansion pack.
And I hope that Naga are elaborated and have tons of cool magic to compensate for the lack of Academy.

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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
posted December 17, 2010 02:45 PM

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Apart from the Haven dude, I doubt any of them will be the "faction leader" but they are still some kind of leaders since armies of particular races will likely follow them into the succession wars, I'm sure all 5 will be more than "just heroes".

Yeah ofc I just meant that because they are in the different factions does not make them automatically kings or queens or whatever.
But it's only logical of course that they are some kind of leader, otherwise they wouldn't really matter as much. I imagine that their power(and leadership) will only grow during the campaign.
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Yaeliccc
Yaeliccc


Known Hero
Undead, but warm and fuzzy
posted December 17, 2010 02:59 PM

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Can I just say that I've always thought it hilarious that the Cyclops has turned into a shooter. It makes no sense - it's got ONE eye, and hence zero depth perception.

This is the LAST guy I'd want throwing things.


1. in the greek mythology cyclop was always into some stone throwing even when he was just a little kid growing up...
2. sniper, when he aims to kill, closes one eye so he can make a more precise shot... one eye more precise, think about it

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jwallstone
jwallstone

Tavern Dweller
posted December 17, 2010 03:06 PM

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one eye more precise, think about it


No, that's because the gun sight is only made for one eye.

And that only makes sense when your projectile will fly exactly straight in the direction it was shot, like a bullet out of a gun. That allows a 2D projection onto a single eye to work fine.

Any normal projectile will be difficult to aim. Just try throwing around a football or baseball (heck, a rock) with one eye.

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Valen-Teen
Valen-Teen


Famous Hero
UFOlolOgist
posted December 17, 2010 03:10 PM

Cyclops is CHAMPION.
That guy is Jaguar warrior and his upgrade is Panther warrior!

It's official)

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DarkLord
DarkLord


Supreme Hero
Fear me..
posted December 17, 2010 03:11 PM
Edited by DarkLord at 15:11, 17 Dec 2010.

core:

Goblin - it's ok , i guess Orc faction Must have Goblins in their line-up..

Harpy - Awesome!!! Everyone loves them

Mauler - 1st Orc.. will cope with that..


elite:

Centaur - definetely Should be elite! Not core! It's a freggin-Horse!!! can't be core!! Otherwise i don't know why it's female, just in sake of haveing female units in each faction???

Shaman - 2d Orc.. I like em! Way much better then mauler!!!

Jaguar/Cyclops/Behemoth/Big Orc whoever it is -
IF it is 3d orc... then will be disappointed.. 2 Orc are ENOUGH!!!!!
IF it is Ogre or maybe Troll.. then that's much better!!! Makes more sence
IF it is Cyclops.. then it is weird to see Cyclops look like that!! But i will rather want them to be Cylops then Behemoth..

Champion:

- Cyclops/Behemoth/New name????
I think when we get the artwork we gonna all agree that is the best unit for Stronghold, even on adventure map it looks Awesome!!!!! real badasss!!!!!

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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
posted December 17, 2010 03:16 PM

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Cyclops is CHAMPION.
That guy is Jaguar warrior and his upgrade is Panther warrior!

It's official)

Okey Valen-Teen you better start posting some links now, because if if you are pulling sh*it out of your a$$ I'm gonna ki...

just kidding but seriously where do you get this stuff from?
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Danny
Danny


Famous Hero
posted December 17, 2010 04:18 PM

It's from the insider at the Russian forum, he said that's the name of the creature unless Ubi changed it since then.

Valen-Teen, can you clarify what has been said about "possibly no flyers", that seems to be quite the hint.

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted December 17, 2010 04:25 PM
Edited by MattII at 18:18, 17 Dec 2010.

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Can I just say that I've always thought it hilarious that the Cyclops has turned into a shooter. It makes no sense - it's got ONE eye, and hence zero depth perception.

This is the LAST guy I'd want throwing things.
They [url=http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2008-04-29]don't necessarily[/url] lack depth perception.

Okay, does anyone know why the heck I can't link?

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