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Thread: Worst heroes game This thread is 18 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 · «PREV / NEXT»
Zenofex
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posted January 04, 2012 04:11 PM
Edited by Zenofex at 16:15, 04 Jan 2012.

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The kind of units they have used in the game. rather obvious no?
What I don't understand is why are you bringing this "unit choice" thing into the conversation in the first place. And by the way if I don't like the units, I can blame them as much as I want. I'll never claim that my opinion about them is the Holy Truth or, to use your expression, a "fact".
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this has gotten progressively worce with h4 and h5. besides if you run it on a new rig it crashes. maybe you would not know seeing as you have to compare to pre 2005 machines.
Heroes V has the worst and the slowest AI in the series, who's disputing that? Are we still talking about Heroes III? As for the rest - my current PC is some 2 years old, the config can easily run recent games like Skyrim, The Witcher 2, etc. on high settings, it has a 64-bit Windows 7 on it. Heroes III Complete has crashed for me only once or twice for these two years. And seriously - a 1999 game not made fully compatible with operating systems released 8-10 years later? What were the devs thinking?!
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take a look at the screenshot.
I don't need screenshots, I have the game installed and I can see the pixels. I can't say the same about your point.
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on new machines with windows 7 this game dous not run stable at all i hope even you realise this.
See above.
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dosu the company still post things about h3 or anything? or communicate with the community? i think you know the answer.
Oh... right... well... no matter. Now, open wikipedia and read the articles about 3DO and NWC -

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out dated graphics are not good blah-blah
And you still claim that you're using "facts"?

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Dave_Jame
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posted January 04, 2012 04:11 PM

SO just few notes on the topic

For those that say H3 is stable. My original copie crashes my PC in the matter of minutes (hope it is a problem of My machine) but it happens.

For Those who dislike pixelgraphics. All is made in pixels, we just make a lot more of them at this time. And the difference here is if you like more hnad drawne art, or realistic art. (or 2D or 3D)

And now on the ropic of some designe choicec
5 towns -> why not. better the have the same lineup over and over agein. My nect wish, a vanila gae wihtout a humon faction.

4 resources -> Well implemented change. I like that it makes you think and use more mechanics (market place). Also, if a map is well made, you have a need for atleast 1 resource every time of the game (The gold income should be reduced)

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avalon00x
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posted January 04, 2012 04:13 PM
Edited by avalon00x at 16:27, 04 Jan 2012.

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dosu the company still post things about h3 or anything? or communicate with the community? i think you know the answer.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsaneTrollLogic



you may not like my way of logic but it is certainly not flawed in the way you are trying to show. i can once again redirect to strawmanning wich seems to be all the new hype.



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The kind of units they have used in the game. rather obvious no?
What I don't understand is why are you bringing this "unit choice" thing into the conversation in the first place. And by the way if I don't like the units, I can blame them as much as I want. I'll never claim that my opinion about them is the Holy Truth or, to use your expression, a "fact".
exactly wich is why it is a choice of preferrance that will make you favor ether h3 or any other heroes for that matter thank you for proving my point.




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this has gotten progressively worce with h4 and h5. besides if you run it on a new rig it crashes. maybe you would not know seeing as you have to compare to pre 2005 machines.
Heroes V has the worst and the slowest AI in the series, who's disputing that? Are we still talking about Heroes III? As for the rest - my PC is some 2 years old, the config can easily run recent games like Skyrim, The Witcher 2, etc. on high settings, it has a 64-bit Windows 7 on it. Heroes III Complete has crashed for me only once or twice for these two years. And seriously - a 1999 game not made fully compatible with operating systems released 8-10 years later? What were the devs thinking?!

The question is however if you are still running Heroes 3 in original condition. but when a game cant be played normaly becouse it crashes that dous make for a bad game. windows 7 tends to make the game crash alot.



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dosu the company still post things about h3 or anything? or communicate with the community? i think you know the answer.
Oh... right... well... no matter. Now, open wikipedia and read the articles about 3DO and NWC -



we all knew this. and it only proves that there is no communication or anything.

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out dated graphics are not good blah-blah
And you still claim that you're using "facts"?


The heroes 6 Graphics are better you may not like the art style but they are better. more shiny more detailed more frames ebber edges.
now better graphics dont meen a better game by default. but if you put h3 directly opposite of h6. the graphics are simply no match.

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Avirosb
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posted January 04, 2012 04:31 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 16:32, 04 Jan 2012.

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we all knew this. and it only proves that there is no communication or anything.
Well it's not like Ubi is any better.

But maybe they intend to change their approach, who knows?

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Dave_Jame
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posted January 04, 2012 05:19 PM

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we all knew this. and it only proves that there is no communication or anything.
Well it's not like Ubi is any better.

But maybe they intend to change their approach, who knows?

Well they did gave a good month ahead or more notice. so I do not see a problem in that.
But would love to see a better aproche

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Zenofex
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posted January 04, 2012 05:25 PM

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we all knew this. and it only proves that there is no communication or anything.
And Einstein is not a great physicist because he hasn't contributed to the science at all since he died, the scoundrel.
You fail even at trolling. I'm out of this.

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OmegaDestroyer
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posted January 04, 2012 05:37 PM
Edited by OmegaDestroyer at 17:38, 04 Jan 2012.

Just a debate, guys.  No need to get upset about it.
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Corribus
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posted January 04, 2012 06:04 PM

FWIW, I'd take H3's 2D graphics and presentation (AS IS) over the modern 3D graphics and presentation of H5/H6 any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted January 04, 2012 06:06 PM

Nuts to that.  I'd take Heroes 2 of everything.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted January 04, 2012 06:07 PM
Edited by OmegaDestroyer at 18:58, 04 Jan 2012.

Nuts to that.  I'd take Heroes 2 over everything.
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Corribus
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posted January 04, 2012 06:35 PM

You can say that again. Again.
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Nocturnal
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posted January 04, 2012 06:52 PM

And I would take H5-ToT without a doubt. Don't know why they call its graphics cartoonish. None of them are cartoonish for me except for Slayer. There also are many cartoonish units in H3.
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Corribus
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posted January 04, 2012 06:56 PM

Artwork is artwork and simply a matter of aesthetics.  But there's a functional aspect to 2D vs. 3D, and I think 2D presentation is far superior for a TBS game with board-game like style.

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Nocturnal
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posted January 04, 2012 07:03 PM
Edited by Nocturnal at 19:03, 04 Jan 2012.

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Artwork is artwork and simply a matter of aesthetics.  But there's a functional aspect to 2D vs. 3D, and I think 2D presentation is far superior for a TBS game with board-game like style.


Well, what's that function that 3D lacks and 2D has?

I always prefer 3D game-play in games except for fighting games. It must have 2D gameplay but 3D graphics like SF4 and MK9. But in every other game type, 3D is my preferance.
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alcibiades
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posted January 04, 2012 07:08 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 19:09, 04 Jan 2012.

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Artwork is artwork and simply a matter of aesthetics.  But there's a functional aspect to 2D vs. 3D, and I think 2D presentation is far superior for a TBS game with board-game like style.
I guess it's a matter of oppinion also, but I never really understood the fuss over H5's 3D. 99 % of the time, I just had the camera locked in traditional north/south position, and it didn't really make any difference from a 2D game, so I don't understand why some people found it to be a major problem.
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Clay_Man
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posted January 04, 2012 07:28 PM

3D severely limits the adventure map capabilities. Just think about an XL map in H3 vs H5. The ultimate solution would be, IMHO the H3 adv. map with full 3D battlefields like in H5-H6, but that's probably never going to happen.

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Salamandre
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posted January 04, 2012 07:44 PM

I don't know about you, but if the view I have from my car when driving passed suddenly to full 3D I would find it rather dangerous and annoying. Same for Heroes games, I never could adapt to all those rotating cameras, why? Does you strategy gets better or more options come to your mind if you see your hero also from back side?

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Corribus
Corribus

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posted January 04, 2012 07:56 PM

Because 3D serves no functional purpose - it's mere distracting eye candy, put in there because there's the expectation that modern games need to be 3D.  It's superfluous and unnecessary.  Functionally, what does 3D add to the game?  If it adds nothing, why is it there?  The game can still be beautifully rendered in 2D, so the aesthetic argument isn't really tenable.

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alcibiades
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posted January 04, 2012 08:33 PM

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I don't know about you, but if the view I have from my car when driving passed suddenly to full 3D I would find it rather dangerous and annoying. Same for Heroes games, I never could adapt to all those rotating cameras, why? Does you strategy gets better or more options come to your mind if you see your hero also from back side?
Ehm ... ISN'T the view from your car 3D? The world I live in certainly seems to be 3D.

Rotating cameras ... That's a different story. Keep them fixed, if you don't like it.
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Lexxan
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posted January 04, 2012 08:42 PM

I loved the rotating Camera's btw. During my first H6 battle I tried several times to change the perspective, but sadly,  it didn't work. I love that feature ;__;

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