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tungvtt
tungvtt

Tavern Dweller
posted May 19, 2013 01:24 AM

I defeated the Vampire King, visited Orange keymaster, get the trops but now I don't know where to go next . Please help

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted May 19, 2013 02:49 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 02:51, 19 May 2013.

After orange border gate, look behind the dwarves treasury, there is a way to Alamar, take only devils/efreets with you unless you play Hell, because he is a pyromaniac.
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master_learn
master_learn


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posted May 19, 2013 11:18 AM
Edited by master_learn at 15:58, 19 May 2013.

Maximus defeated month 7 week 3.
Good for me to know I can do it in less than 7 full months.(I know in Ouch is much easier than in Hell,but still a good training)

I have to say that I used only like 80 HBs in the mines without calling them for the final fight.
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master_learn
master_learn


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posted May 19, 2013 04:17 PM

Now I downloaded the version from 16 may.
When I click to choose a difficulty level,some errors appear.
Should I ignore them?
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Salamandre
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posted May 19, 2013 04:31 PM

I don't have errors, what it says?
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


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posted May 19, 2013 04:50 PM

I have always got that error since forever anyway, but I just skipped it and still played normally, thus didn't really bother to report.

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master_learn
master_learn


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posted May 19, 2013 05:01 PM

Interesting thing that I restarted and no more errors.

Though now Pasis hangs.Wasn't he made to appear near the portal of glory?
(Ouch,MoW)
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tungvtt
tungvtt

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posted May 19, 2013 08:08 PM

Quote:
After orange border gate, look behind the dwarves treasury, there is a way to Alamar, take only devils/efreets with you unless you play Hell, because he is a pyromaniac.

Thx, found it. Just learned Summon Fire Elemental but cannot use it in combat

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master_learn
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posted May 19, 2013 08:44 PM
Edited by master_learn at 21:22, 19 May 2013.

Here is my WogErmlog file .
Since Pasis continues to act strange,this might be the reason.

Edit-I tried the first few days in Hell difficulty and Pasis is doing his job there as he is supposed to.

alisapa,did you try Ouch difficulty lately?
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Salamandre
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posted May 19, 2013 09:25 PM

Both things are not related. I added a parameter in difficulty screen which may help for your crash, yet I never had it. Also fixed Pasis issue, you are training your troops too early and it seems that when they have experience, this confuses AI about your power thus he gets shy. Training now requires first to find an operational base (town).

Commodus.erm

This is all you need, I will upload the whole a bit later.
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master_learn
master_learn


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posted May 19, 2013 09:39 PM
Edited by master_learn at 21:39, 19 May 2013.

Thank you,Sal,it worked!
I guess AI reacts to the possibility of upgrading the troops,not whether they actually have been upgraded.

MoW could upgrade them,but since we have to loose them to get the hat,upgrading doesn't make sense.
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Salamandre
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posted May 19, 2013 09:55 PM

Ai can't upgrade or train and he does not need so. But this may explain why people reported AI playing very passive in wog random maps, if experience feature makes him believe your are much stronger. No matter ACE or not, Pasis still can kill you in half turn, but for some reasons he thinks he will lose then he stays there.
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master_learn
master_learn


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posted May 19, 2013 10:18 PM
Edited by master_learn at 22:18, 19 May 2013.

I guess the micromanaging part works this way: (playing now MoW)

After I take Tenatha,I have to walk around in the rest of 6th and whole 7th day.When the first day of the second week begins,I gather my army and go to the second inferno,after which I could take both utopias before day 7 of the second week.
(I don't see how could I go with 2 Archdevils,1 devil,2 efreets and the rest of them to win against 12 Dread Knights,and after to have enough of them to take the second inferno before week 2 day 1)

That doesn't mean Rion and the third castle would be in my disposal before the 3rd week.

I know MoS is naturally faster then the others,but I hope Biobob to share some details about the begining(when he feels like it).

Not that the author can't ,but I have to admit micromanaging is not of such necessity outside of Hell.

Then again,one has to practise it before engaging in Hell.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted May 19, 2013 10:48 PM

In Hell mode, is suitable to win the map before 7th month with one exception, MoW can win it later because extra troops. This means you don't need exaggerated micromanagement unless you want to beat some record and have lots of time on your hands. MoE can win the map as fast as MoS if played well.
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tungvtt
tungvtt

Tavern Dweller
posted May 19, 2013 10:50 PM

I took over the town Silverwing, visited the red-purple keymaster's tent but lost again . How to get to the red-purple border guard?

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Salamandre
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posted May 19, 2013 10:57 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 22:57, 19 May 2013.

You see the stronghold where you beat the guy with thunder birds? South west of map, bottom. From there, go right side, take the tunnels behind blue border gate, space bar to visit more tunnels, then you will find the red-purple border.
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tungvtt
tungvtt

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posted May 19, 2013 11:16 PM
Edited by tungvtt at 23:28, 19 May 2013.

Quote:
You see the stronghold where you beat the guy with thunder birds? South west of map, bottom. From there, go right side, take the tunnels behind blue border gate, space bar to visit more tunnels, then you will find the red-purple border.

Thx, I visited the tunnel once and didn't know it leads to several places

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Salamandre
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posted May 20, 2013 08:53 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 09:00, 20 May 2013.

I will send the map to mapsforheroes, I think we are done with. Finished with MoE even a bit faster than MoS, had once a crash due to shrines but removing them then replace solved and crash never came back. Probably I placed a shrine in some illegal location, hard to say.



In general MoE requires a lot of battle tricks to get past middle game when we are mithril lacking, but becomes very strong late with the spells upgrades. Unfortunately I did not use much blind, demons power suffice but that's it. I did not use devils past middle game, not enough mithril to upgrade them, focused on demons.

600 spells upgrades = 6000 mithril only from.

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master_learn
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posted May 20, 2013 10:39 AM
Edited by master_learn at 10:40, 20 May 2013.

Quote:
600 spells upgrades = 6000 mithril only from.


Very interesting and useful for players!
So I have to download the map again it seems.

For all difficulties or just for Hell?
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Salamandre
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posted May 20, 2013 11:00 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 11:00, 20 May 2013.

I didn't change anything from yesterday erm upload, which fixed your difficulty/Pasis issue.
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