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emilsn91
emilsn91


Supreme Hero
posted April 03, 2018 04:57 PM

Dire frenzy on a huffer (from the "To My Side" spell) ! Insane.. It love it..

I really love this suicide warlock. Warlocks always take dmg to themselves. That spider is beautiful

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watcher83
watcher83


Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
posted April 03, 2018 06:53 PM

3 new neutral worgen cards, as someone on reddit figured out, all the worgen cards ( swap attack health) are crazy strong with Lady in White.
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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted April 03, 2018 09:45 PM
Edited by blob2 at 21:45, 03 Apr 2018.

They're actually decent for commons even without the Lady. Will be picked in Arena, in Constructed maybe less but who knows (maybe in budget decks?)

Dollmaster Dorian - a Legendary, which is not surprising as "named" cards are usually those, but finally something creative. I think he's a safe craft even, as he fits into many decks and will be played. The cost is a bit tricky (and weak stats), but he definately has many uses: Deathrattle decks, Druid decks (cause Nourish or Infestation) or even draw heavy decks like Miracle Rouge or Ressurect Priest just to name a few.

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watcher83
watcher83


Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
posted April 04, 2018 07:40 AM

Deathrattle rogue with roll the bones comes to mind when thinking of dollmaster or even jade n'zoth rogue in wild.
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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted April 04, 2018 01:33 PM

There is some overhype on Lady in the White. It is good in Control deck but then you want to run tons of spells in your control priest deck, which means Lady is suboptimal. So a midrange deck for Priest? It might work.

Shaman better get some awesome spells, there are so many cards generating them. So I don't want to see the crappy Totem spells or whatnot lol. Or maybe just some cards that synergize with spells, ala Flame walker.

I'm liking Warlock a lot, but don't give them too much healing because it is no longer a suicide Warlock then lol.
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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted April 04, 2018 03:16 PM
Edited by blob2 at 17:10, 04 Apr 2018.

Minion said:
There is some overhype on Lady in the White.


True, we had many cases of overhyped Legendaries which turned out to be bad (I made that mistake with Grumble). Or maybe not bad, alas the meta didn't give them a chance to shine. Or cases like Keleseth which was the dark horse etc. In this case she might be too slow. I'm interested in this card not because of the supposed OP-ness, but because I think her power will bring out some long forgotten cards.

Minion said:
So I don't want to see the crappy Totem spells or whatnot lol.


Oh but you will, that's how it works

Minion said:
I'm liking Warlock a lot, but don't give them too much healing because it is no longer a suicide Warlock then lol.


Yeah they never cease to amaze. Class is so strong atm and will be even stronger. What a parobole. Two expansions ago people were like "make Warlock great again!". Another newly revealed card, Voodoo Doll (which we will probably see a lot in the near future) synergizes perfectly with Dark Pact, one of the unlikely "winners" of not being hit by the nerf-bat.

I also wonder how Hunter will fare, the class got some nice cards already. I just realized that because Dire Frenzy will be played a lot probably, we will see cards like Stonetusk Boar, which in turn will probably be a good combo with Toxmonger...

EDIT:
Splintergraft - people are bashing this card like crazy, cause Druid is the "meme" of the expansion so far. I think it's solid. Statwise you don't loose any tempo, and what's so funny in holding a Stonetusk Boar for a turn 9 play with this and turn 10 ten damage to face? I don't remember Druid having this kind of finisher before. It's true that it's hard to keep minions alive late game, but even a "meme" combo with Wax Elemental doesn't seem that bad of a deal? I will definitely use this card in my Druid decks when I get it...

Toki, Time-tinker - what a letdown. The "time" keyword gave hope for some cool mechanics. But ofc it's RNG fiesta. From the past = Wild. And to hand :/ Playing this in Mage, which recently is mostly Tempo based, doesn't seem to fit anywhere (Control Mage has better options). At first I hoped for some unique cards from Warcraft Lore but no...

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watcher83
watcher83


Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
posted April 04, 2018 05:10 PM

ok here's the rank 25 combo:
- turn 9 you go stonetusk boar and splintergraft;
- turn 10 you go duskfallen avian and ixlid ( and because rank 25 they live);
- turn 11 you play 10/10 boar for 0 and get 2 boars with Ixlid then faceless manipulator and u hit them for 40.

My favourite class is freeze shaman level bad this expansion
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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted April 04, 2018 06:40 PM

Why does Toki not read "discover a Legendary minion from the past"... They came up with this great keyword to mitigate RNG a bit but no, just full RNG for ever. Thanks Blizzard.
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blob2
blob2


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted April 04, 2018 07:51 PM

Regarding Splintergraft. Imo there's a difference between a bad card and a card that won't be played because "meta". A bad card is Witch's Cauldron. It won't give you any advantage when played, and probably it will give you Totemic Might with it's effect.

Sure Splintergraft won't be played, cause it's a Legendary (expensive), belongs to a class that might be in a bad spot in the nearest months, is slow etc. But so are 80% of cards in each expansion. The good ones will enchance/fill the gap in existing decks and might eventually work in some new decks. But bashing Splintegraft as if it were Milhouse Manastorm is strange to me... It actually gives you a guaranteed turn 10 minion (if there is a target ofc). Much better then a late game topdecked Wild Growth into Enchanted Raven. Plus Druid has various ramp options so you might play it quicker. I will laugh hard if it turns out to be a win condition with Bluegill Warrior in a "Murloc Druid" deck which will dominate the meta

But yeah, other then that Druid got some really bad cards...

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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted April 04, 2018 07:58 PM

If Splintergraft works with mana discounts like Arcane Giants or Mountain Giants (Hand Druid could be a thing) I see great potential for the card. 10 mana cards usually are not THAT great unless their effect is massive like N'Zoth, so I get the hate a bit. But people also thought that Ultimate Infestation is unplayable because it is 10 mana, lol, don't forget Druid is the ramp class....

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emilsn91
emilsn91


Supreme Hero
posted April 04, 2018 08:48 PM

The flavour of Toki is amazing.. The whole get something from the "past". I love it. Sadly she is understatted and well too random. I really like your idea, Minion, that it had been a discover. Would have been great

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watcher83
watcher83


Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
posted April 04, 2018 09:31 PM

I was just making fun of the combo, splintergraft might be playable in a big druid. Just doubling a big minion with a powerful effect is enough for the extra value. My complaint was regarding the fact that this exp the power level of druid cards is very low and all over the place: hand, mill, give 10 mana to your opponent; beast ressurect and now some value generation.
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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted April 04, 2018 10:41 PM

Ah no, I wasn't countering your post I was simply trying to evalute the card. I've seen your combo reference and I remembered how cards are only evaluated based on their "meta" factor.

I've heard a tinfoil theory that Druid is being "hit" hard because of Jades. Team 5 knows they went too far with the power level of some Druid cards, and now it's getting the cold shoulder. Like Shaman was hit after Dr.4 and Totem Golems back in the day...

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watcher83
watcher83


Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
posted April 05, 2018 07:44 AM
Edited by watcher83 at 07:45, 05 Apr 2018.

Regarding the power level of jade druid right now, I think that is a misconception; i haven't been able to get legend with jade druid since KotFT; nowadays in wild aviana kun malygos druid is just better to get legend; and in standard I had much better results with a homebrew version of big druid; I noticed that playing big threats one after the other creates much more peril for the opponent than slowly ramping up your jades; by the time your jades get to 6/6 the warlock or priests just kill you, plus everybody and their mom is running skulking geist; but when from turn 6 onwards you keep slamming the lich king, alexstarsza, ysera, tyrantus, medivh plus ui they are in trouble; against paladin the same defensive package is in all 3 archetypes, so you mostly win vs dude paladin and generaly lose vs murloc.
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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted April 05, 2018 10:36 AM
Edited by blob2 at 10:38, 05 Apr 2018.

I kinda have a similar observation with my homebrew Wild Dragon Paladin which I still play from time to time. It's a greedy deck that usually looses to aggro. But when I start to roll out the big Dragons one after another my opponents can't keep up. That's why cheap early-mid board clears or other control tools are so important. In reference, that's why I think Splintergraft will at least boost Big Druid. It basically generates two threats in succession.

The so-called Big Druid is a type of deck I enjoy the most in this class. I always thought this class was about big minions, but through the seasons it's lost it's identity. We either had some cheap rush tactics (the dreaded FoN + SR combo) or Jades etc. I also never was fond of egg/token Druids or Mill or Malygos decks (yeah I know I'm picky as hell). Too but Hearthstone is hard on slower decks...

And yeah Jade is not as powerful as it was, but Druid still has some nasty cards like Infestation or it's DK.

New Paladin cards? Well I don't know, their utility is all over the place. We have a Secret card, a Weapon for buffing and a Legendary that seems decent, but I can't quite find a deck for it.

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watcher83
watcher83


Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
posted April 05, 2018 01:50 PM

Paladin legendary is almost as good as a piloted shredder on it's own, so that alone makes you take it inot consideration. Since the heal yourself deck with the 2/4 djinn and the spellstone seems weak, I think it will be mostly a piloted shredder that you can play on turn 4 in your aggressive paladin deck.
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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted April 05, 2018 03:06 PM
Edited by blob2 at 09:18, 06 Apr 2018.

Or maybe they want to make some kind of Heal Paladin viable? Remember that Paladin stone that nobody uses? Add some of those mushroom guys from K&C and voilą!

Still tier 4, but at least fun!

EDIT: Countess Ashmore. Now that is a Legendary! On turn 7 she might be a bit of a tempo loss, but it compensates by "tutoring" specific cards. It's one of those cards you can build a deck around... first must-craft of the set?

PS: She MUST be a reference to Maleficent from Disney's Sleeping Beauty, it fits the theme. Some say Rita from Power Rangers though

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watcher83
watcher83


Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
posted April 06, 2018 11:06 AM

Totem crucncher and abomination are weak; town crier is strong; countess ashmore is really cool.
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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted April 06, 2018 11:27 AM

watcher83 said:
Totem crucncher and abomination are weak; town crier is strong; countess ashmore is really cool.


Totem Cruncher - they once tried a similar card, Dranei Totemcarver, and she was played rarely even when Totems were a thing. This gains more, but destroys the Totems in the process. The only chance this will be played is with Even mechanic I think (cheaper Totems). Or as a sort of "cleaner" for your board. Bad I guess?

Worgen Abomination - maybe playable in token decks or Warrior (although Sleep with the Fishies is more potent)? Nah, probably won't see play.

Town Crier - tutor cards are always strong. And it costs 1 mana + body! Targeted draw for one mana + body, it's hard to find stronger draw cards then this I think. The question is how much Rush cards will be popular. Maybe this will make Crowley a thing. If you know that you're sure to draw him, this changes the game

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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted April 06, 2018 11:27 AM

Twon Cries is the Kobold Librarian for Warriors, will be seen in every deck that has Rush minions. Countess Ashmore, so good, The Curator of the set. But Curator was 4/6 and this is 6/6 so yeahh.

Worgen Abonination is... dunno. Could it work in Warrior? That 4/8 Dragon that has Taunt seems much better. It does cost one more mana, but only one more...

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