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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted December 19, 2018 11:19 AM

Druidstone is GONE! Huraray!!! I couldn't be happier. Also another I hated playing against was Shudderwock Shaman. This is best Christmas present for me, hihihi. Kingsbane is also dead, wow. I never minded the Odd Paladin as much although it has had the best win percentage.

I would have cut Druid card draw instead of ramping up. But I will take this change. This brings me finally back to Hearthstone.

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blob2
blob2


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted December 19, 2018 12:53 PM
Edited by blob2 at 13:03, 19 Dec 2018.

Don't get me wrong, I dig the changes. Although in reality I don't play the game that much to really feel the toxicity of the meta. Just feeling that Team 5 should really rethink their approach when designing cards. They print busted cards like UI (cus it's fun!), and suddenly ramp cards become really unbalanced. Classic cards limit design space? No, it's more like OP cards make Classic cards stand-out. I might be wrong here as I don't remember exactly, but when I started playing Hearthstone, Nourish was considered a slow card and wasn't played that much or I just didn't see it in decks that I played against.

Oh well, Hunter-stone will become even more apparent, so new nerfs will soon follow (I think Lesser Emerald Spellstone is a likely candidate).

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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted December 19, 2018 09:07 PM

What took me by surprise was how fast they implemented these nerfs almost immediately after announcing them. And they are the most massive one we have probably ever have, effectively killing 3 dominant archetypes. If this is the new, more hands on approach to balancing, then I look forward to the future.

And I couldn't agree more with you on the Nourish/UI issue. UI was the card that broke, or at least started the brokenness, of Druid. Nourish was trash before that, because no one could spend 5 mana and a card doing nothing. Add there that the current Druid gets armor more easily than warrior (and cards that synergize with armor gain), and there was no longer no reason not to run all ramp cards you can fit into your deck.

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blob2
blob2


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted December 20, 2018 10:03 AM
Edited by blob2 at 10:07, 20 Dec 2018.

I sometimes read Hearthstone related pages out of curiosity and what I find funny and even sad is that for all the people that find the nerfs satisfying there are a lot of people whining how Blizzard "made them" loose dust rending cards like Kingsbane "useless"... and not refunding them, while they crafted Kingsbane so they could play the meta. And a lot of people have this mentality. So for each person seeing some decks too oppressive there is another one who finds this oppressiveness ok, cus they are f2p players and don't have dust for anything other. And they lack self-awareness ("nerf=auto-trash" mentality). They can only build net-decks not even evaluating if a card still can be played with success. For instance I think Kingsbane decks can still be strong, but ofc no one will play them now cus nerfs. In this case I can understand why devs don't "listen" to the community. Gamers have really become entitled in some cases.

Btw I think if Blizzard really wanted to do something with the dust refund policy, I think the simplest way would be to change the disenchant value ratio: give back half of a cards dust cost for instance (800/200/50). I think that would be fair. Ofc people would cry "give me back all the dust since before the re-evaluation" then.

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emilsn91
emilsn91


Supreme Hero
posted December 21, 2018 02:56 PM

It is true Blob in the beginning NO ONE played Nourish. It sucked. It was just not that useful.

I agree with you. A lot of cards come out way to OP, where they should have balanced them better before release.

These nerfs were really insane. I still think they should work more on a nerf and/or buff mentality. I do think it is a more positive way of doing it. Some cards could get a facelift and others could get +1 mana cost. Just do it a little different pls.

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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted December 21, 2018 03:42 PM
Edited by blob2 at 22:01, 21 Dec 2018.

To tell you the truth I've played Taunt Druid a few times after the nerfs. I don't see a significant drop in it's power after removing one Nourish and one Wild Growth from the deck (leaving only one of each). You can also use Witchwood Sprite as a mana engine. Ofc I don't play ladder, maybe the difference is visible on higher competitive level...

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Stevie
Stevie


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Undefeatable Hero
posted December 22, 2018 12:50 AM

Man, WSOE semifinals were bonkers fun. I laughed my ass off so hard at those game 5s, it was unreal. The RNG in this game... HAKKARSTONE!
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emilsn91
emilsn91


Supreme Hero
posted December 22, 2018 10:05 PM

I cannot freaking win one of those freaking rumble runs?! Am I so horrible or what is going on.. god!

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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted December 23, 2018 11:53 AM
Edited by blob2 at 00:02, 25 Dec 2018.

emilsn91 said:
I cannot freaking win one of those freaking rumble runs?! Am I so horrible or what is going on.. god!


Same here. Tried a few runs and quit. I don't know if I even want to finish it just for the cardback. RNG completly destroys the playing expierience, as it's a total slot machine. Either you crush AI opponents or they crush you. Nothing in-between. Plus it's very repetetive. Hitting jackpot 8-times in a row is too time consuming for me...

EDIT: No seriously, f-u Team 5. Rumble Run is by far the most bs mode they made to date. How can you beat snowballing tailor-made AI decks when you have snow like Ancestors Call in hand? Answer: you can't. The only way is to have some OP bs yourself. The only valid thing I found is the (2) mana cheaper Shaman Frog shrine with Unstable Evolution, which costs 0 mana an can be played infinitely. Simple combo: Call in the Finishers + Unstable Evolution. Well, that is if you actually get it in the picks and manage draw it...

This beats even the hardest Adventure bosses and I can fully put my signature under the voices that demand those be brought back. Team 5 can go f themselves with such unbalanced "fun" expieriences that give you an "incredible" reward of a cardback... been a long time since I've been so furious with this game after wasting 2h trying to finish this...

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blob2


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted January 01, 2019 02:35 PM
Edited by blob2 at 18:45, 10 Jan 2019.

Happy New Year in Hearthstone!

Wtf is this? Freeze Mage? Quest Mage? Please bring back Mill decks and Thief Priest and I will be soooooooooo happy!

...

Not.

EDIT: So, I got lucky and got Zentimo and Hakkar in a pack... but I have completly no idea where to use them. Anyone have ideas for some kind os Spell Shaman or decks with Hakkar?

EDIT 2: I just can't belive how unlucky one can get in this game Decided to give Rumble Run one last try. Last boss, Hooktusk with double spell Shrine. Snowbally, but relatively easy compared to possible options. Unstable Evolution in hand (and Frog Shrine that reduces the spell cost), four minions on board, turn 4 so everything is set up for a super tempo swing that will probably win me the game. I start to cast UE on first minion...

...summons the 5/5 Spider that raises the cost of spells by (2).

It's actually a good material for a meme.

EDIT 3: It seems Rumble Run will be nerfed a bit in a new patch. Very good. Maybe now I'll finish it. I seriously considered writing to Blizzard to get their s*it together with this mode. LOL, finished the Run with ease on the first try after the "nerf".

Apparently Blizzard sent some surveys asking how people feel about Hearthstone. The same thing happened to Heroes of the Storm before and it was practically scrapped. Supposedly Heartshtone bombed financialy in last year. R.I.P Heartshtone.

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Stevie
Stevie


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Undefeatable Hero
posted January 19, 2019 07:41 PM

Well, if NA HTC ain't completely underwhelming so far. The one game I actually paid attention featured no less than 3 rookie mistakes a la Dog and Fibonacci, including missed lethal. Casters bewildered, twitch chat laughing their asses off, me just facepalming at said pro players. What a way to kick it all off.
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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted January 19, 2019 10:34 PM
Edited by blob2 at 17:14, 19 Feb 2019.

Well Blizzard will probably kill off the e-sport section of Hearthstone soon either way...

EDIT: This game is dying https://www.hearthpwn.com/news/6420-dean-ayala-asks-what-would-get-you-back-into

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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted February 19, 2019 09:30 PM
Edited by Minion at 21:32, 19 Feb 2019.

Based on what? Sure some players are leaving, but I think it is because lately there have been some great alternatives which previously have not been there. MTG Arena and Dota Auto-Chess have taken THE MAIN game place instead of HS for some players.

Hearthstone seems popular enough for being between top 3 to top 10 for 4 years now. And I like the game again also, did a break because I personally hated the Druid meta. Now I enjoy the game again, my Odd Mage is killing it, rank 5 now

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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted February 19, 2019 10:15 PM
Edited by blob2 at 22:15, 19 Feb 2019.

Nah, it probably won't die, but recent events do show that things aren't looking so good. Acti-Blizz situation (all-time low in stock https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/18/fortnite-impact-on-video-game-firms-ea-activision-blizzard-take-two.html) suspicious surveys https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/ae4w1k/blizzard_is_randomsurveying_will_you_continue/, rumors of Rastakhans below-expectation sales and devs literally asking old players why their game sucks and how to get them back might point out that things might not look so good.

Whatever if it's true or not one point is certain: they need to shake things up if they want to keep this game going...

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emilsn91
emilsn91


Supreme Hero
posted February 23, 2019 11:26 PM

So I don't really play it anymore.. Often I just do a quest because I am bored! But I do not really enjoy it Sounds weird.

There is diffently a problem at Blizzard.
Hearthstone is stale.
Overwatch is losing players.
SC2 is still the same due to Esports?
Diablo is going mobile
WoW ... is that still good?
HotS, is anyone playing it?

So they have issues since they are still relying on old titles and the nostalgia, but they need a new IP or at least something less Acti-Micro-transaction stuff.

To be honest Blizzar has the creative power to do a God of War 4 or ReadDead2 styled game that will make the world go crazy for it. But it seems like they just trying to keep floating.

Imo I think they should leave SC, Diablo, Hearthstone and to some extend WoW alone. Keep Overwatch going, but go make a new IP! Go make something new and insane.

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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted February 28, 2019 07:31 PM
Edited by blob2 at 21:34, 03 Mar 2019.

https://www.hearthpwn.com/news/6435-year-of-the-dragon-goodbye-genn-baku-new-solo

I hope there will be lots of dragons!

The bit about solo adventure mode looks interesting. It will be available in in May and will bring back "paid" content/wings.

Doomguard gets HoF? I know the card is OP, but for me its like a symbol of Warlock class. Also, Neutralize to HoF is another hard hit for Druid.

EDIT: Cool, Bunnyhoppor made it to the finals of HCT. Made me 4 packs. Funny that I voted for a German and broke the "don't vote for top players" rule, but here we are

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Stevie
Stevie


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Undefeatable Hero
posted March 04, 2019 01:25 AM

Roger wins HCT winter championship. Chat blows up with cheater accuse.
Priceless.
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blob2
blob2


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted March 04, 2019 03:32 PM
Edited by blob2 at 15:48, 04 Mar 2019.

@Stevie

How does stream-sniping (or ghosting or whatever it is called) or delaying in case of Hearthstone work? I can't imagine delaying a stream long enough to make some conscious decision-making (regarding Team Taipei disqualification). I actually still can't understand how this works... is it based on deck tracker that the streamers use? How the f* does this even work in a game so heavy on RNG where a topdeck can win you games?

Aside from the fact they actually allowed a cheater to play...

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Stevie
Stevie


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Undefeatable Hero
posted March 04, 2019 04:03 PM

Roger was disqualified during NA HCT if I remember right. Some news report had it that he cheated as the official statement for the organizers implied. As for the manner in how he did it, I have no idea. It's just that his reputation carried over to this event where he actually won. Twitch being immature as always chanted cheater.

But maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say.
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blob2
blob2


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted March 04, 2019 04:29 PM
Edited by blob2 at 16:41, 04 Mar 2019.

Stevie said:
But maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say.


I've read about it a bit more and got a gist of of the affair, although I still can't understand how stream ghosting (or whatever it is called) can have such a big impact on the results of Hearthstone matches. Like I said, it's a RNG heavy game that enables some level of anticipation, but still a single card can turn a tide of a whole match. Even if you're literally able to see an opponents hand it doesn't mean you will win (and I heard good players can literally guess what opponents have based on their plays and decks). I just can't understand how "delayed" broadcast can work in someones favor... it doesn't exactly read into the future.
https://dotesports.com/hearthstone/news/hearthstone-community-torn-over-cheaters-at-all-star-invitational. Sorry, I might be stupid in this case, but I can't understand how this works... or maybe it's something that journalists are copy-pasting without giving it a thought.

But that is one matter. I'm not analyzing the morality of cheating, but how does it work in the above case.

The question is should such people be allowed in Tournaments?

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