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DrSlash
Hired Hero
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posted January 18, 2017 08:40 PM |
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Edited by DrSlash at 20:44, 18 Jan 2017.
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@AncientDruids Totally forgot about that, nice catch! Although it's not a direct proof that NWC planned unique models for campaign heroes, but it is still possible that they did. Especially considering this feature was present in Heroes 4.
@verriker Never heard about this before, very interesting indeed!
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted January 18, 2017 08:44 PM |
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true I don't actually think they were planning it for all campaign heroes so much as just Gem because she technically had a new class, but it's a precedent at least lol
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted January 18, 2017 08:54 PM |
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Edited by Maurice at 20:57, 18 Jan 2017.
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verriker said: btw I believe there is a hidden variable in the game defining each Hero's Race (like Gnoll, Human, Elf, Genie or whatever) so that could be supported I suppose if going all out with the models lol
There is, except for Conflux Heroes it's all set to "Human". Easy enough to patch up, though.
It's in the .exe file, the Hero stats block. The second set of four bytes for each Hero designate the race they're from. In the Gold edition of Heroes 3, the stat block starts from address 0x00279DD0 onwards.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted January 18, 2017 08:55 PM |
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P4R4D0X0N said:
As for female Beastmasters "Borghild" is quite a female name for a Beastmaster, since it means "borg" (protection) and "hild" (battle).
Actually it's Broghild, I should know since it's my avatar.
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OxFEA
Promising
Famous Hero
feanor on DF2.ru
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posted January 18, 2017 09:03 PM |
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Gem hasn't unique class (she is Druid), she has unique class name.
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P4R4D0X0N
Famous Hero
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posted January 18, 2017 09:04 PM |
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verriker said: (did you know they were actually planning that for Gem the Sorceress in SoD but ran out of time)
I miss a lot of old M&M chracters... (Edit: Why is this a 'sad' smily?) There is quite a lot potential too add more from time to time... now it's really worth it
Some characters yet missing:
HoMM1
(Antoine, Atlas, Ergon, JoJosh, Kelzen, Thundax, Tsabu)
(Ambrose, Arturius, Dimitri, Ector, Kilburn, Maximus, Sir Gallant, Tyro)
(Carlawn, Ariel, Natasha, Rebecca, Troyan, Vatawna)
(Agar, Arie, Barok, Crodo, Falagar, Kastore, Vesper, Wrathmont)
HoMM2
(Fineous, Ivan, Jaclyn, Jarkonas, Jezebel)
(Lord Alberon, Corlagon, Gallavant, Lord Halton, Viscount Kraeger, Ruby)
(Brother Brax, Celia, Charity, Darlana, Drakonia, Mog, Rialdo, Roxana, Zam, Zom)
(Eliza)
(Elderian, Martine)
(Joseph, Wilfrey, Kalindra, Dawn)
As for Forge "Sheltem" would have been awesome
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pele
Tavern Dweller
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posted January 19, 2017 03:14 AM |
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DrSlash excelent work mate...The tower male might hero looks awesome,like roman centurion..It will be good for fortress to have four heroes two males and two females . ..And necro male magic hero,maybe is better to be lich ,but thats my opinion.Anyway great work you guys,you keep happy all heroes 3 fans . ps...srry for my bad english
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted January 19, 2017 05:12 AM |
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Well racially unique hero models would certainly be interesting, but it would nearly triple the number of models required.
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pekute99
Known Hero
The prettiest I must say
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posted January 19, 2017 07:54 AM |
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Edited by pekute99 at 07:59, 19 Jan 2017.
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Will you make unique models for campaign Heroes ? Like Gelu or Dracon ? Especially Adrienne from Fortress. She can't use the default town hero model since she is a human.
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted January 19, 2017 11:14 AM |
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Well no, But neither can Mirlanda, Andra or Verdish, since they are as well. And in fact, neither can Merist, Rosic or Tiva, since they're gnolls, while the model is of a lizardman.
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Mehtih
Tavern Dweller
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posted January 19, 2017 05:05 PM |
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The new hero models look great, although the in-game screenshots are too small, so we cannot see the details. Maybe a good idea is to show us some high quality renders? I think a lot of us would appreciate it.
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P4R4D0X0N
Famous Hero
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posted January 19, 2017 05:48 PM |
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MattII said: Well no, But neither can Mirlanda, Andra or Verdish, since they are as well. And in fact, neither can Merist, Rosic or Tiva, since they're gnolls, while the model is of a lizardman.
This looks like a task to me And obviously I think it will be the already discussed option.
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted January 19, 2017 07:46 PM |
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Interestingly, Conflux is the only town to have model changes applying to the horse itself between classes.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted January 19, 2017 08:46 PM |
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The male elementalist looks horrible, what is it even supposed to be?, an earth elemental?, a gorilla? And both original Conflux models are male, I guess NWC really was in a rush to get Conflux done...
I'm really looking forward to these new models.
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DrSlash
Hired Hero
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posted January 19, 2017 09:03 PM |
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phoenix4ever said: I guess NWC really was in a rush to get Conflux done...
Exactly, the closer you look at Conflux (and most of the content added in AB and SoD for that matter) the more evident this rush and low quality becomes. Fortunately, a great amount of such content has already been fixed in HotA, and a lot more will be fixed in the future.
As to the original elementalist hero, it's a reused model of Dracon from AB campaigns with recolored clothes:
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted January 19, 2017 09:15 PM |
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But Dracon is a wizard, not an elementalist?
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Dj
Promising
Supreme Hero
Always loyal to HC
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posted January 19, 2017 09:58 PM |
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Elementalists are all types of magic goods heroes (wizards, sorcereses) who joined the elementals (planeswalkers) to fight in the war against the kreegans. They can also be different races: genies, elves, humans etc. It s so sad that the campaign did not make clear the background of this city. It was rushed indeed!
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Zigge777
Hired Hero
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posted January 19, 2017 11:11 PM |
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What do you guys use to play hota online against friends?
I've had some success with Tunngle, but it's an awful client imo.
Hamachi's messed up my computer in the past, so not keen to try it again.
Did anyone try TeamViewer or Evolve? Thoughts?
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P4R4D0X0N
Famous Hero
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posted January 20, 2017 12:10 AM |
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I would prefer a platform for it with a modfied IPX/SPX to TPC/IP converter... You'll need a network administrator/coder for it. These guys are quite rare. Imho it would work best on HD mod... in case of compatiblity with other mods/systems... with an unique ID for every installed mod (maybe calculated via checksum or predefined variables) It would work to play together even with mods. Some additions like a chat would be awesome combined with a DL system, where your actual version gets automatically updated for every installed mod. Also a startup check would be nice where your version gets checked and automatically updated... BUT still... this is worth another project with at least 3-4+ ppl to realize something like this.
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Serp
Known Hero
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posted January 20, 2017 12:17 AM |
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Zigge777 said: What do you guys use to play hota online against friends?
I've had some success with Tunngle, but it's an awful client imo.
Hamachi's messed up my computer in the past, so not keen to try it again.
Did anyone try TeamViewer or Evolve? Thoughts?
Gameranger,
see here http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=33708&PID=1400592#focus
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